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Demsrule86

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48. Tired of the threats...I think Sanders has cooked his own goose with his campaigns behavior and now

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 11:32 AM

Jan 2020

an endorsement from a guy that really really likes the Proud Boys...good old Joe Rogan.I do not believe Sanders will be the nominee and it is not because of the 'establishment' but because of choice made by Sanders...to hire Stein supporters, to welcome Rogan's endorsement and to attack Warren and other candidate with lies. Warren is not an elitist.

Well you can't always pick who endorses you but Sanders welcomed the praise and re-tweeted it. My values are what they are...I do not believe in Racism,misogyny , and persecution against LGBTQ. I do not welcome those who believe in these things and make their living persecuting others (Rogan) into the big tent period. It is non-negotiable. Thus as a primary candidate, Sanders is over for me. I will vote for him in the general as the lesser of two evils. I always wanted Sanders to join our Party. Today, I thank God he is not a member of the Democratic Party.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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So I hear that Bernie Sanders isn't really a Democrat [View all] Tom Rinaldo Jan 2020 OP

Once every 4 years at least nt doc03 Jan 2020 #1

Fine, but since you responded within 30 seconds of my posting this... Tom Rinaldo Jan 2020 #2

It doesn't matter what you wrote DownriverDem Jan 2020 #35

I am a "True Dem" in that have been registered as a Democrat since 1971 PufPuf23 Jan 2020 #56

True Democrats? How would you define that Downriver? KPN Jan 2020 #105

Would that make him 25% Democrat? LakeArenal Jan 2020 #3

0% Democrat as a representative. He is only a Democrat while campaigning, not in public service. ehrnst Jan 2020 #113

I only support DownriverDem Jan 2020 #18

Oh, we know how you feel. That's been obvious going back to 2015 actually. KPN Jan 2020 #106

There are vines in the rain forest NCProgressive Jan 2020 #4

Times Change True Blue American Jan 2020 #8

The vine is a parasitic plant. chwaliszewski Jan 2020 #9

I prefer True Blue American Jan 2020 #15

This message was self-deleted by its author RandiFan1290 Jan 2020 #19

You are free to interpret the way you see fit NCProgressive Jan 2020 #88

Fair enough. chwaliszewski Jan 2020 #100

Good one! nt UniteFightBack Jan 2020 #120

Sounds about right. Scurrilous Jan 2020 #138

He is a Democrat loveboy Jan 2020 #5

No he isn't DownriverDem Jan 2020 #22

People shift in and out of family / community loveboy Jan 2020 #40

People who shift in and out whenever it suits them, without regards to family members Clash City Rocker Jan 2020 #97

I think that's a bit harsh loveboy Jan 2020 #107

Tell that to Bernie. "Sanders: I don't consider myself a Democrat" ehrnst Jan 2020 #114

I can't stand his open contempt and hostility toward the party and Democrats... NurseJackie Jan 2020 #133

Read your post True Blue American Jan 2020 #6

Because if he did that would splinter and harm the democratic party in the GE. Autumn Jan 2020 #11

How? True Blue American Jan 2020 #13

We have never had an Independent run with the draw that Bernie has. The closet that ever happened Autumn Jan 2020 #17

First of all, who is 'we?' wyldwolf Jan 2020 #21

We,as in True Blue American Jan 2020 #26

Still not following Autumn's line of reasoning wyldwolf Jan 2020 #46

Perot probably is what resulted in Clinton beating Bush the Elder. nt PufPuf23 Jan 2020 #59

that's a thoroughly debunked political myth wyldwolf Jan 2020 #64

I don't buy that and one can find arguments for the opposite. PufPuf23 Jan 2020 #68

you don't buy actual vote and electoral college totals? wyldwolf Jan 2020 #71

It is not worth the bother of my energy. nt PufPuf23 Jan 2020 #73

cop out. nt wyldwolf Jan 2020 #75

He would harm the party anyway DownriverDem Jan 2020 #23

Yes, I imagine the dems cringe every time he caucuses with them. Autumn Jan 2020 #29

It's clear DownriverDem Jan 2020 #38

So your saying Sanders gives a damn about the Democratic Party... Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #43

Yes he does. But more than that he cares about people and their needs. nt Autumn Jan 2020 #45

Tell that to my Gay daughter that he sees fit to accept support from a guy who hates her as Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #77

My niece is transgender. She supports Bernie even after Rogan. She knows he's nothing more Autumn Jan 2020 #102

Well that is your opinion...I see no evidence of any caring ...the revolution... Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #91

Yes it is my opinion. I never said otherwise. Just like you offer your opinion with no evidence. Autumn Jan 2020 #98

This message was self-deleted by its author RandiFan1290 Jan 2020 #50

Everyone knows this, but under Bernie Bashing Rule#1, he must be ridiculed despite the consequences! InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2020 #95

He wouldn't get Dem party apparatus support nor media attention... brush Jan 2020 #110

I don't think he would need it. He's no longer some unknown Senator from Vermont. As for Autumn Jan 2020 #111

And as for his socialist baggage? Stop kidding yourself. Repugs... brush Jan 2020 #112

Bernie said he does it because of the earned media and the $$ a major party provides. ehrnst Jan 2020 #119

This message was self-deleted by its author RandiFan1290 Jan 2020 #16

That's been my question for a while. I guess they aren't curious enough to know WHY the Autumn Jan 2020 #20

There is the neoliberal divide within the Democratic Party and the party PufPuf23 Jan 2020 #61

Why DownriverDem Jan 2020 #24

This message was self-deleted by its author RandiFan1290 Jan 2020 #28

I laugh that shit off. I know what got Trump in office. Autumn Jan 2020 #31

Sanders supporters who voted for Jill Stein and Trump? sweetloukillbot Jan 2020 #36

Wait? Are you telling me Russia wasn't the culprit? You know that Stein or some other third party Autumn Jan 2020 #41

letting republican made machines count the votes is what put trump in office questionseverything Jan 2020 #121

It so pisses me off they have allowed nothing to be done to insure our elections. They can't win in Autumn Jan 2020 #122

peops are working on it..it just doesnt get much attention from the press or here at du questionseverything Jan 2020 #124

Tired of the threats...I think Sanders has cooked his own goose with his campaigns behavior and now Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #48

This message was self-deleted by its author RandiFan1290 Jan 2020 #49

My problem is not with the Democratic Party...I love this party and what we stand for...I will not Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #52

+1,000,000. The Valley Below Jan 2020 #62

Thank you. Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #70

Re-reading the thread just now, I almost hit +1,000,000 again... The Valley Below Jan 2020 #137

I think you ask a good question. marble falls Jan 2020 #25

Because Bernie knows that would guaran-damn-tee President Pig Vomit 4 more years!! InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2020 #99

The phenomenon you describe isn't a good thing genxlib Jan 2020 #7

Good points. True Blue American Jan 2020 #10

Michigan DownriverDem Jan 2020 #27

I think you interpreted the opposite of what I meant genxlib Jan 2020 #60

You can't spend a lifetime trashing the church then walk in and demand to be the minister. wyldwolf Jan 2020 #12

Better description True Blue American Jan 2020 #14

Well said DownriverDem Jan 2020 #30

Bernie would never do that. He's Jewish. Autumn Jan 2020 #33

This message was self-deleted by its author RandiFan1290 Jan 2020 #39

And of course, zentrum Jan 2020 #34

that's beside the point wyldwolf Jan 2020 #42

+1 dalton99a Jan 2020 #47

Get back to me when the organization votes down/votes out/blocks Bernie. Till then it's a few Autumn Jan 2020 #51

Consider yourself "gotten back to" wyldwolf Jan 2020 #58

Those are members, aka voters . The organization has not voted down/voted out/blocked Bernie. Autumn Jan 2020 #63

Hmm. ok. wyldwolf Jan 2020 #69

In my view, Nancy Pelosi, Madame Speaker, IS the leader of the Democratic party. I don't Autumn Jan 2020 #76

Your view is flawed. Being that the word we've both been using is "organization..." wyldwolf Jan 2020 #82

Correction. You used the word organization as for the rest I'm not interested in it. Have a fun day Autumn Jan 2020 #84

Post #51 and #63. You used "organization." wyldwolf Jan 2020 #85

Many say the Democratic party zentrum Jan 2020 #134

Many people would be wrong wyldwolf Jan 2020 #135

Wait, but what did Jesus do? PufPuf23 Jan 2020 #66

Build tables and chairs? Maybe? wyldwolf Jan 2020 #74

I support candidates zentrum Jan 2020 #32

I feel the same Tom Rinaldo Jan 2020 #55

Just because someone wears a Democratic label mountain grammy Jan 2020 #37

Something for Nothing Horizens Jan 2020 #44

Dude must have quite a stack MontanaMama Jan 2020 #57

Thoughtful integration of global and historical facts. The sands are clearly shifting. JudyM Jan 2020 #53

There's a lot to the Bernie/Trump analogy BeyondGeography Jan 2020 #54

You are free, obviously, to extend comparisons to realms that were not the focus of my OP Tom Rinaldo Jan 2020 #65

You don't have to, it would only be redundant anyway BeyondGeography Jan 2020 #67

+1000 Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #72

That "political norms in the 21st century have become more unstable" is undeniably true. The Valley Below Jan 2020 #78

Well said... Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #80

I agree with you but only to a point Tom Rinaldo Jan 2020 #86

I don't agree that the Vietnam war protests were a populist movement. The Valley Below Jan 2020 #87

I think we simply disagree Tom Rinaldo Jan 2020 #89

I think we do agree. Populism is the rage directed against whatever segment of a society The Valley Below Jan 2020 #90

Respectfully I do not think that we agree Tom Rinaldo Jan 2020 #93

The anti-apartheid movement in SA had two wings. The Valley Below Jan 2020 #96

Those whose populist leadership you support you call liberals Tom Rinaldo Jan 2020 #116

No. I call the liberals "liberals" and the populists "populists." The Valley Below Jan 2020 #117

Bernie seems to think of himself as the Martin Luther of liberal politics. The Velveteen Ocelot Jan 2020 #79

Martin Luther also called for Jews to be burned out of their homes The Valley Below Jan 2020 #92

Luther was a lot of things, including - like many of his time - an anti-Semite. The Velveteen Ocelot Jan 2020 #101

Not trying to detract from your point, The Valley Below Jan 2020 #104

He's not. RandySF Jan 2020 #81

I've Always Wondered Why He Didn't Stick to His Principles Me. Jan 2020 #83

True,Bernie's a Democrat's Democrat cuz he votes w/ fellow Democrats more than the average Democrat! InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2020 #94

If Bernie stick to his principals he'd be running as a Trotskyite tirebiter Jan 2020 #103

For many Sanders is Democrat in all but name booley Jan 2020 #108

I'm not one of those who considers Sanders a Democrat in all but name. The Valley Below Jan 2020 #118

so you oppose healthcare for everyone? questionseverything Jan 2020 #123

That's what called a stalking horse issue. The Valley Below Jan 2020 #125

i have no idea what that means questionseverything Jan 2020 #127

I don't stand with his democratic socialist ideology or his populism. The Valley Below Jan 2020 #128

socialism is when we all get together to pay for something we can't pay for by ourselves questionseverything Jan 2020 #129

LOL. Social Security is NOT an example of socialism. The Valley Below Jan 2020 #130

agree to disagree questionseverything Jan 2020 #131

I heard this from Bernie: "I don't consider myself a Democrat." ehrnst Jan 2020 #109

By his own words. sheshe2 Jan 2020 #126

K & R LiberalLovinLug Jan 2020 #115

May be better than a reactionary. delisen Jan 2020 #136

I have questions about sanders judgment Gothmog Jan 2020 #132

Party? Elizabeth Warren used to be a Republican Duppers Jan 2020 #139