Democratic Primaries
In reply to the discussion: Bernie's Demeanor is to divide not to unite. [View all]Scurrilous
(38,687 posts)To begin - I posted this earlier in discussion about Bernie and his outreach to white working class and his belief that class trumps race and that white and black working class will join together to overthrow the oligarchs. Or the Democrats. Probably Democrats.
Bernie Sanders still says class is more important than race. He is still wrong
Sanders spoke about the need to move beyond identity politics, apparently not recognizing that this is impossible in America
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"It appears that in the aftermath of a monumental but nonetheless failed presidential campaign, Bernie Sanders remains most comfortable in the spot that made him a loser: trying to separate class and race.
Sanders has never been wrong about the damaging roles establishment politics and economics play in the lives of millions of Americans. Even so, hes long struggled with acknowledging that focusing on class alone wont make this country better for many who are struggling. That the revolution cannot be colorblind if it were to truly make this country better for all of the disenfranchised.
At a speech in Boston on Sunday, the Vermont senator advocated go[ing] beyond identity politics, declaring, The working class of this country is being decimated thats why Donald Trump won. And what we need now are candidates who stand with those working people, who understand that real median family income has gone down.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/nov/22/bernie-sanders-identity-politics-class-race-debate
Then stuff about the kibbutz in Israel where went after college and got his ideas and some communism.
Kept name of kibbutz secret. Israeli newspapers outed him.
"Now that Bernie Sanders has become a serious candidate for president, it is inevitable that the media will pay attention to every aspect of his life. In 1963, when Sanders traveled to Israel to work on a kibbutz there were scores of American Jewish students who also volunteered. So it is rather strange that Sanders has consistently refused to tell the press about his time there and the kibbutz he worked on. When asked, he and his campaign dodged the issue."
Says the kibbutz is where Bernie got his 'ideals' 50+ years ago.
"She acknowledges that Sanders time there might be when he apparently sharpened his socialist ideals a half-century ago. Zeveloff adds that they had a strong admiration for the Communist system in the Soviet Union. They heard about the Soviet gulags, but considered that news to be false reports from renegades. No wonder they proudly flew a red flag at outdoor kibbutz events. We also learn that relatively few people volunteered at the kibbutzim affiliated with Hashomer Hatzair before 1967, making Sanders 1963 visitation a rare exception among American volunteers."
https://www.hudson.org/research/12194-bernie-s-adventures-on-a-stalinist-kibbutz
Tonight I google kibbutz inspiration Dov Ber Borochov and get:
"A key part of Borochovian ideology was that the Arab and Jewish working classes had a common proletarian interest and would participate in the class struggle together once Jews had returned to Palestine."
WHAT!
"...in Palestine in speeches towards the end of his life. Borochov insisted that he was a Social Democrat..."
WHAT! WHAT! ...WHAT!
"Borochov's vision of class struggle in Palestine was widely viewed as untenable by the 1910s..." "himself seemed to repudiate his former vision of class struggle in Palestine in speeches towards the end of his life. Borochov insisted that he was a Social Democrat..."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ber_Borochov
Bernie is pushing Borochovian ideology that he picked up at the kibbutz and which was viewed as untenable and eventually repudiated by Borochov himself. Stole the name too.
This is too fucked up. He's a disruptor. That gets my vote.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden