Democratic Primaries

Go Vols

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49. Been a problem for a while

Mon Jan 27, 2020, 09:18 PM

Jan 2020

But as Tuesday evening’s clash affirmed, Biden, an avatar of the business-friendly “New Democrats” in the 1980s and ’90s, has a long history of flirting with, endorsing ― and at times actively pushing for ― benefit cuts.

Biden was proud of his vote for the constitutional amendment balancing the budget, which the liberal Center on Budget and Policy Priorities said would have jeopardized Social Security and Medicare, for years afterward.

In a March 1998 press release, Biden boasted that his vote for the constitutional amendment is part of what had earned him the distinction of being rated by National Journal one of the five most conservative Democrats in the Senate.

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/sanders-hits-back-at-biden-over-social-security-claims_n_5e27c5a8c5b67d8874a906b2

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Huffpost: 2011 Biden led negotiations where SS cuts were on the table. [View all] Tiggeroshii Jan 2020 OP

No Social Security benefits cuts were "on the table". The HP headline is misleading, if not false. George II Jan 2020 #1

Not according to the sources Tiggeroshii Jan 2020 #3

The BUDGET of the Social Security Administration was cut, not benefits. The instituted.... George II Jan 2020 #4

Chained CPI are well disguised cuts. Tiggeroshii Jan 2020 #8

Yes, they "considered it", but didn't recommend it. The so-called "Biden group" was.... George II Jan 2020 #13

The article does not say it was done. Tiggeroshii Jan 2020 #18

Dude, Biden PROTECTED SS benefits! AlexSFCA Jan 2020 #52

No it isn't. OliverQ Jan 2020 #6

Yes it is. pfeiffer Jan 2020 #9

What? You don't remember the proposed payroll tax holiday discussions I guess. How would those NOT KPN Jan 2020 #17

There are articles about how budget cuts affected the Social Security Administration, but.... George II Jan 2020 #19

That's true, but you said that cuts were not even on the table. They were ... and willingly. The KPN Jan 2020 #20

All payments were made to the Trust Fund CarlitosMMT Jan 2020 #53

Huffpost snowybirdie Jan 2020 #27

This has always been a problem and not just with Biden booley Jan 2020 #2

I don't get it - now you're talking about Clinton in the context of Obama/Biden? George II Jan 2020 #14

Been a problem for a while Go Vols Jan 2020 #49

Thanks for the link to the full article. Mr.Bill Jan 2020 #5

Funny how that works out after getting past a sensational headline. George II Jan 2020 #7

I know, right?! pfeiffer Jan 2020 #10

Well, duh, not a single Democratic candidate is for those NOW! Or so they say. I'm sure KPN Jan 2020 #21

Actually it made very clear they were on the table. Tiggeroshii Jan 2020 #23

"considered applying" and "one source said" Mr.Bill Jan 2020 #28

That is exactly what that means. Tiggeroshii Jan 2020 #31

Sometime it's making the other side think you sre considering it. Mr.Bill Jan 2020 #34

Well he ceratinly made our side think he was considering it. Tiggeroshii Jan 2020 #43

How about the fact that it never happened? Mr.Bill Jan 2020 #46

What? You cant consider something and not do it? Tiggeroshii Jan 2020 #47

Okay, I just read the article again. Mr.Bill Jan 2020 #11

No it doesn't, but it does have this nugget: George II Jan 2020 #12

More dirty-tricks campaigning. The Valley Below Jan 2020 #15

Right and I am sick of it. Dirty because based on either lies, omissions, or distortions. emmaverybo Jan 2020 #30

chained cpi iwannaknow Jan 2020 #16

Scurrilously misleading. MineralMan Jan 2020 #22

They were willing to go along with it. Tiggeroshii Jan 2020 #24

Apparently not, since it did not happen. MineralMan Jan 2020 #25

Biden insisted he never considered it as the clips that have been aired suggested Tiggeroshii Jan 2020 #26

By the way, thanks for the edit to your thread title to remove Mr.Bill Jan 2020 #32

Welcome! It shouldn't have been there and I apologize for putting it in the first place. Tiggeroshii Jan 2020 #33

Your candidate needs to be able to beat Biden on the merits: qualifications, experience,knowledge, emmaverybo Jan 2020 #35

Considering SS cuts in the first place, IMHO is "going low" Tiggeroshii Jan 2020 #40

+++ still_one Jan 2020 #29

SAME TOPIC - SAME POSTER - SAME RESULT stopdiggin Jan 2020 #36

Except it was never "shot down" Tiggeroshii Jan 2020 #38

an allegation that you repeat over, and over, and ... stopdiggin Jan 2020 #45

We are fools if we don't at least look at some alternatives regarding SS. We can reject them, but to Hoyt Jan 2020 #37

That is an honest response and I appreciate that. But I think many voters strongly disagree with it. Tiggeroshii Jan 2020 #39

Many voters also disagree with mandatory Medicare-for-All. Doesn't seem to faze Sanders or Warren. Hoyt Jan 2020 #41

Well unlike Biden, he isn't denying that he supports this thing that may be unpopular. Tiggeroshii Jan 2020 #42

I don't care JustAnotherGen Jan 2020 #44

? Tiggeroshii Jan 2020 #48

So what is being put forward is Biden, Obama, and Clinton pulled one over on the Republicans. tirebiter Jan 2020 #50

Article doesn't quite match the OP title. RandySF Jan 2020 #51