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DanTex

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20. Like I said, having people talk about grinding progressives to a pulp can't help progressive causes.
Mon Jan 27, 2020, 11:29 PM
Jan 2020

I agree that we need to find ways to elect more progressives. Having more progressives in the machinery would help that, of course. For example, AOC is hugely popular, a massive fundraiser, and that's clear evidence that there's pent-up demand for more AOCs. But for her to even get to congress she basically had to climb Mount Everest, because the machinery doesn't favor candidates like her.

You're an insider, so you know as well as anyone that it makes a difference who runs the machinery (and I don't just mean the DNC). There are some big decisions like the superdelegate rules, or the debate schedules. But there are also things like which primary candidates get the thumbs up, and who gets pressured into supporting who, and which consultants get hired (or blacklisted) and thousands of little decisions here and there. All the wheeling and dealing and favor trading and introductions and deciding who the next up-and-comers are and all that. The same kind of stuff happens at any large organization, whether it's a business or government or university or whatever.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided

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If either happens there would be a lot of very upset Dems lapfog_1 Jan 2020 #1
Is that how it works? DanTex Jan 2020 #2
What would "more progressives within the party machinery" accomplish? brooklynite Jan 2020 #15
Doesn't the DNC put together the platform and the national convention? DanTex Jan 2020 #18
The DNC organizes the structure of the Convention; the Platform Committee is formed from Delegates brooklynite Jan 2020 #19
Like I said, having people talk about grinding progressives to a pulp can't help progressive causes. DanTex Jan 2020 #20
Then elect more of those people to office or to local committees. Blue_true Jan 2020 #26
Yes, that's the idea. It's a process that builds on itself. DanTex Jan 2020 #30
She campaigned for "progressives" up and down the Midwest in 2018, not a single red seat... George II Jan 2020 #31
Right, because the party machinery is still centrist. DanTex Jan 2020 #35
No, the MEMBERS of the party are "centrists".... George II Jan 2020 #38
Hardly. Look at polls. Look at AOCs popularity. Look at Bernie and Warren. DanTex Jan 2020 #41
You forgot that some of the 7 that won their primary got endorsed by the DNC. Blue_true Jan 2020 #39
The committees are staffed by state level party activists and elected officials. Blue_true Jan 2020 #25
That fine point is lost on people that want to parachute in and just take over the party. Blue_true Jan 2020 #23
People work their way up through state democratic parties. Blue_true Jan 2020 #21
Cornel West. The Valley Below Jan 2020 #3
No, he's Vice President. Hassin Bin Sober Jan 2020 #6
Would not surprise me. The Valley Below Jan 2020 #11
Putting Nina Turner, who didn't even support our candidate in 2016, in charge of the DNC would be StevieM Jan 2020 #4
This message was self-deleted by its author Tiggeroshii Jan 2020 #5
Not a chance, considering this, campaigning against a Democrat (who won with 60+%): George II Jan 2020 #7
Wait squirecam Jan 2020 #16
Yes, she campaigned for Jabari Brisport, Green Party candidate running against Democrat Laurie Cumbo George II Jan 2020 #17
Thank you squirecam Jan 2020 #22
The heterosexist one? David__77 Jan 2020 #24
There are one or two others beside that guy and AOC. Blue_true Jan 2020 #29
I know one is heterosexist. David__77 Jan 2020 #32
You are talking about Cabrera, a jackass. Blue_true Jan 2020 #36
Is Lauri Cumbo in AOC's district? Maybe Laurie can return the favor, but canvass for actual Blue_true Jan 2020 #27
No, she represents a neighborhood (coincidentally where I was born and first lived) in Brooklyn.... George II Jan 2020 #28
There is a woman named Elizabeth Crowley that is thinking about running against Blue_true Jan 2020 #40
I Wabbajack_ Jan 2020 #8
Oh great. Speculation. billpolonsky Jan 2020 #9
It's a very likely thing that would happen if he were nominated Lexblues Jan 2020 #13
the radicals have been worse than the establishment once they take over nt msongs Jan 2020 #37
Putting in a first term rep. Buzz cook Jan 2020 #10
Nice way DownriverDem Jan 2020 #12
A President Sanders can restructure the DNC; a nominee Sanders cannot. brooklynite Jan 2020 #14
Tulsi AlexSFCA Jan 2020 #33
I guess that may depend on the DNC's administrative rules. David__77 Jan 2020 #34
So who will do the fundraising? Historic NY Jan 2020 #42
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