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In reply to the discussion: sanders is on record calling for Social Security cuts [View all]Gothmog
(181,598 posts)199. Sanders' Social Security 'adjustments' undercut Biden attack
sanders and Sirota lied about Joe Biden and social security . sanders has called for cuts also https://apnews.com/31c432f20acba807a569c7004abaf473
As a congressman in the 1990s, Bernie Sanders expressed an openness to making adjustments to the tax and benefit structure of Social Security. He also praised an overhaul of the social safety net program signed into law by President Ronald Reagan that reduced benefits and increased taxes on working families.
Sanders presidential campaign and allies have highlighted similar remarks by Joe Biden to attack the former vice president and make the explosive charge that Biden was an outspoken proponent of slashing the program.
With Iowas first-in-the-nation presidential caucuses less than a week away, Sanders remarks from decades ago are surfacing as a counterpunch to the criticism of Biden, as the two top candidates in the Democratic race escalate a feud over the nations most popular entitlement, an issue that has particular reach among older voters.
Sanders, a democratic socialist, is a favorite of progressives who admire him for his convictions and consistency on issues. But when it comes to Social Security, it appears that wasnt always the case.
In 1994, after Republicans took control of the House for the first time since the Eisenhower era, they brought a renewed focus on fiscal restraint and deficit reduction.
Biden and Sanders both bowed to those pressures in some respect.
Today, Social Securitys long-term finances are sagging under the weight of the ballooning number of baby boomers who are collecting benefits. The options available to sustain the programs financing also remain the same: Benefits can be cut, taxes can be raised or a combination of the two can be enacted.
Sanders allies have specifically highlighted Bidens past use of the term adjustments a word they say was deployed as a euphemism for cuts.
Yet Sanders himself used the word in an election-year opinion article about Social Security that ran in The Burlington Free Press in 1996.
Sanders presidential campaign and allies have highlighted similar remarks by Joe Biden to attack the former vice president and make the explosive charge that Biden was an outspoken proponent of slashing the program.
With Iowas first-in-the-nation presidential caucuses less than a week away, Sanders remarks from decades ago are surfacing as a counterpunch to the criticism of Biden, as the two top candidates in the Democratic race escalate a feud over the nations most popular entitlement, an issue that has particular reach among older voters.
Sanders, a democratic socialist, is a favorite of progressives who admire him for his convictions and consistency on issues. But when it comes to Social Security, it appears that wasnt always the case.
In 1994, after Republicans took control of the House for the first time since the Eisenhower era, they brought a renewed focus on fiscal restraint and deficit reduction.
Biden and Sanders both bowed to those pressures in some respect.
Today, Social Securitys long-term finances are sagging under the weight of the ballooning number of baby boomers who are collecting benefits. The options available to sustain the programs financing also remain the same: Benefits can be cut, taxes can be raised or a combination of the two can be enacted.
Sanders allies have specifically highlighted Bidens past use of the term adjustments a word they say was deployed as a euphemism for cuts.
Yet Sanders himself used the word in an election-year opinion article about Social Security that ran in The Burlington Free Press in 1996.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
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I was able to capture this...because I can use the internet....So not a lie...right there in
Demsrule86
Jan 2020
#78
Talk to the BS campaign.. they are the ones who started this "inconvenient fact"..
Cha
Jan 2020
#189
It was in the newspaper in Gothmog's post...he said it so...maybe you missed it?
Demsrule86
Jan 2020
#146
This is BS - adjustments have and can be made by raising the income level at which money is taken
bloom
Jan 2020
#193
Apparently he's promising pie-in-the-sky solutions to the young and stiffing retirees
onetexan
Jan 2020
#49
Oh that pesky internet...as aoc said earlier today "some campaign as if there is no internet."
Thekaspervote
Jan 2020
#3
Me too! May I say thanks, thanks and thanks...K&R as well. You are a Goddess!
Demsrule86
Jan 2020
#20
I did ... and I still see nothing I'd categorize as 'urging' ... and certainly not urging 'cuts'
mr_lebowski
Jan 2020
#105
So much for forty years of fighting. Do you think they'll redo the attack ads?
Scurrilous
Jan 2020
#10
And this is Bloomberg no less. Gives credence to the idea that Bloomberg is running in order
Demsrule86
Jan 2020
#17
As she said this morning...some campaign as if there were no internet...come again aoc???
Thekaspervote
Jan 2020
#39
Not at all...I am sure this must be very difficult...tsk tsk. Such a shame but you know...he didn't
Demsrule86
Jan 2020
#72
Being called a tax and spend democrat was something people avoided being called.
Blue_true
Jan 2020
#93
The point is that Sanders team says "adjustment" is understood to mean cuts but they say that is not
Gothmog
Jan 2020
#42
the title line is not true gothmog. no where does the link say that. for shame. :(
Kurt V.
Jan 2020
#60
thanks i didn't get that. biden has in fact, with nuances, called for cuts to ss.
Kurt V.
Jan 2020
#75
well, while they are arguing who said what, when, tRump and the fascists are cutting SS. nt
yaesu
Jan 2020
#77
Nope Sanders has some explaining to do...I picture and ad...with the Newspaper article
Demsrule86
Jan 2020
#82
Please copy the Newspaper article and add to your OP if you desire...to show all those who question
Demsrule86
Jan 2020
#80
AOC: "I don't understand why some folks run as if the internet doesn't exist." lol.
wyldwolf
Jan 2020
#81
Year later...run up to the midterm. He said what Biden said...so if Biden meant cuts so did Sanders
Demsrule86
Jan 2020
#120
Sanders said the same thing...and it is in the newspaper...but good luck with this because two can
Demsrule86
Jan 2020
#145
If you read what was in the articles posted, he was looking for cuts of OTHER programs
Scotch-Irish
Jan 2020
#126
He said... 'benefits in the newspaper...so...you don't increase benefits to get solvency now do you
Demsrule86
Jan 2020
#129
20 years later ...OK...doesn't change the fact he used the same words Biden used...so either Sanders
Demsrule86
Jan 2020
#139
Weird becuase when they were tryign to do the "Grand Bargain there was Sanders protesting it
booley
Jan 2020
#127
Biden never cut social security nor did Sanders...but both gave lip service to solvency...and
Demsrule86
Jan 2020
#130
Sander is good on a certain spiel...I don't see much ability to write legislation or plan to
Demsrule86
Jan 2020
#148
There was never going to be a bargain...Obama effectively took it off the table with his poison
Demsrule86
Jan 2020
#153
Both Sanders and Biden want to secure and protect Social Security. All of our candidates do.
LanternWaste
Jan 2020
#131
I know that and so does Sanders which is why the attacks against Biden are really wrong and are
Demsrule86
Jan 2020
#134
He specifically mentioned benefits...I doubt either Sanders or Biden were serious...it is a game
Demsrule86
Jan 2020
#152
did you see gothmogs OP...the newspaper where Sanders say...'adjustments in benefits'
Demsrule86
Jan 2020
#156
That article in the bottom right is showing his pleasure that we did NOT get cuts.
Tiggeroshii
Jan 2020
#154
Again. He does not say he supports cuts. He said there needs to be adjustments to the system to keep
Tiggeroshii
Jan 2020
#168
So I've seen this before, but this tweet is not supported with any evidence
Tiggeroshii
Jan 2020
#177
The fact you are not providing evidence and only repeating a line is not doing wonders credibility
Tiggeroshii
Jan 2020
#179
He said it right there in black and white...and why is your candidate cozying up with right wing
Demsrule86
Jan 2020
#181
Because there is no evidence. I am the only one here that actually took a quote from the newspaper
Tiggeroshii
Jan 2020
#184