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babylonsister

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75. I think he knows that...

Sun Mar 31, 2019, 09:47 PM

Mar 2019

https://www.thedailybeast.com/pete-buttigieg-mayor-petes-strategy-for-beating-trump-is-to-target-fellow-hoosier-and-vice-president-mike-pence?source=articles&via=rss

Mayor Pete’s Strategy for Beating Trump: Target Vice President Mike Pence
The intensity of Pete Buttigieg’s critiques of the vice president speaks to a long history, both political and personal—and the young mayor’s deep disdain for hypocrisy.
Scott Bixby
03.31.19 9:31 PM ET

Mayor Pete Buttigieg’s message for fellow Democratic hopefuls is a straightforward one: It’s not enough to just attack the president—no matter how loathsome you might find his words, actions and policies.

The vice president, on the other hand? It’s a little more complicated.

“It just felt like every few months, there would be some fresh embarrassment,” Buttigieg told The Daily Beast, in a conversation about his time as mayor of South Bend, Indiana, under then-governor Mike Pence. “We had to deal with this kind of rotation of blunders that really made our entire state look silly.”

Other Democratic candidates have occasionally criticized Pence on the campaign trail: Sen. Kamala Harris called Pence’s past remarks about his refusal to dine alone with women without his wife present “outrageous,” and former Vice President Joe Biden was forced to backtrack after calling Pence “a decent guy” during a speech in Iowa.

But the frequency and intensity of Buttigieg’s critiques of the vice president speaks to a long shared history, both political and personal—as well as the young mayor’s deep personal disdain for perceived hypocrisy. Pence’s outspoken religiosity, the mayor said, is in direct and irreconcilable conflict with his position in the Trump administration, and with Buttigieg’s belief in the importance of “good faith.”

“That’s one of the biggest things that scripture councils us to avoid,” Buttigieg, a churchgoing Episcopalian, told The Daily Beast. “It is galling… it’s just a real affront to see that happen.”

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Buttigieg has 'enormous respect' for Hillary Clinton, says she was 'ill-served' by strategy... [View all] babylonsister Mar 2019 OP

aaaarrrrgggghhhh will make up his mind? samnsara Mar 2019 #1

I'm not sure what you mean. femmedem Mar 2019 #21

He should just run his own campaign and not critique one that ended 3 years ago. George II Mar 2019 #46

Yeaah... no. sfwriter Mar 2019 #53

Is everybody forgetting that Hillary didn't lose? The election was stolen. brush Mar 2019 #93

Analyzing the strengths and weaknesses of previous campaigns is not "taking a shot at them" IndianaDave Apr 2019 #114

Yeah.... no sfwriter Apr 2019 #142

You can pretend trump won without cheating/Russian help... brush Apr 2019 #143

I Think That We Need To Learn From The Past Progressive2020 Mar 2019 #55

He's largely done just that True Dough Mar 2019 #57

Really? We shouldn't look at why we lost 3 years ago in an honest manner? bitterross Mar 2019 #76

Good Point Progressive2020 Mar 2019 #88

Of course we should... Hillary wrote a whole book on that very subject!! InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #120

Mayor Pete was asked a question... so he answered it. Was no big deal. InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #118

I thought that was very gracious of Mayor Pete to say. InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #117

That's It? Me. Mar 2019 #2

Robby Mook? dalton99a Mar 2019 #4

It Seems To Be A Wilful Ignorance Me. Mar 2019 #98

Exactly, Me.. Cha Apr 2019 #124

... Me. Apr 2019 #137

hillary piled up millions of extra votes in CA and lost where it mattered most nt msongs Mar 2019 #3

She also came with decades of pre-tarnished baggage. sfwriter Mar 2019 #56

A day late, a dollar short BlueFlorida Mar 2019 #5

Actually, that was completely consistent with the quote that got him into trouble. n/t femmedem Mar 2019 #19

I don't entirely agree with him on this: Jarqui Mar 2019 #6

You never get a second chance to make a first impression. lapucelle Mar 2019 #7

Actually those were the reporter's words. crazytown Mar 2019 #23

... lapucelle Mar 2019 #31

Those are the reporter's words Qutzupalotl Mar 2019 #37

Exactly True Dough Mar 2019 #60

I can read quite well, thank you very much. lapucelle Mar 2019 #74

Unless I see the words in direct quotes True Dough Mar 2019 #80

At least President Obama Cha Apr 2019 #125

Buttigieg has made strides in his city, but it's taken eight years, some gentrification, lapucelle Apr 2019 #132

Excellent points! Buttigieg can Cha Apr 2019 #133

He's peaked. That's it. This is his high-water mark. Sadly, for him it's all downhill from here. NurseJackie Mar 2019 #34

Wrong! True Dough Mar 2019 #61

Sure. If trivial posts from anonymous people... NurseJackie Mar 2019 #83

But you can find the energy to repeatedly predict doom for Mayor Pete True Dough Mar 2019 #87

Thanks for noticing me. NurseJackie Mar 2019 #89

Challenge accepted! True Dough Mar 2019 #92

Oh brother! NurseJackie Mar 2019 #100

We'll see True Dough Mar 2019 #104

By tomorrow, I'll have forgotten all about you... NurseJackie Apr 2019 #106

Why wait until tomorrow? True Dough Apr 2019 #108

Clearly I've stepped on a nerve and gotten under someone's skin! NurseJackie Apr 2019 #111

Takes two to tango! True Dough Apr 2019 #112

I'm in your head now. Good. NurseJackie Apr 2019 #113

Likewise! True Dough Apr 2019 #115

If you say so. Finally, something we can agree on! NurseJackie Apr 2019 #116

Post removed Post removed Apr 2019 #119

You know good and well that's not what I said. NurseJackie Apr 2019 #121

"I've chosen to make an example of your derelict posts..." lapucelle Apr 2019 #145

Somebody needs *something* ... that's for sure! NurseJackie Apr 2019 #146

"Held accountable?" ehrnst Apr 2019 #136

Can you tell me what mayor pete has accomplished in the real world? Gothmog Apr 2019 #138

I love your enthusiasm, as always. nt babylonsister Mar 2019 #68

Thank you so much for this. femmedem Mar 2019 #71

... and my honesty too. NurseJackie Mar 2019 #73

I think your conclusion is premature IndianaDave Apr 2019 #122

Yea this isn't starting well for him onetexan Mar 2019 #44

A flash in the pan... he won't be our party's nominee. The novelty of it has worn off. NurseJackie Mar 2019 #102

Agree. If he was mayor of NYC i'd give him more credit onetexan Apr 2019 #105

And, puff it up by Cha Apr 2019 #126

i don't think her strategy was bad. barbtries Mar 2019 #8

If you take California away she lost the popular vote by 1.3 million madville Mar 2019 #10

because it has the most people. barbtries Mar 2019 #11

Of course but winning California by one vote or millions madville Mar 2019 #13

i had to look that up barbtries Mar 2019 #14

thats stupid jcgoldie Mar 2019 #27

It's the system we have to work with madville Mar 2019 #33

You Are Exactly Right Progressive2020 Mar 2019 #51

You do realize that Pete Buttigieg is proposing to scrap the electoral college? True Dough Mar 2019 #64

I Think That Is Great Progressive2020 Mar 2019 #70

It's a nice thought madville Mar 2019 #78

I don't buy that California magically doesn't count. Renew Deal Mar 2019 #32

Of course it counts for the EC but the popular vote doesn't madville Mar 2019 #42

Florida, Ohio, Michigan, etc Clint because California votes the way it does. Renew Deal Mar 2019 #59

If you take away Texas, Hillary would be president DBoon Mar 2019 #39

Very True madville Mar 2019 #40

The popular vote? mobeau69 Mar 2019 #12

how does she feel about it now? barbtries Mar 2019 #16

Yes. My ex was lost a long time ago. My daughter is loyal to her above all else. mobeau69 Mar 2019 #18

that's wild. barbtries Mar 2019 #20

I know. But that's just the way it is. mobeau69 Mar 2019 #22

as with another remark she made that she barbtries Mar 2019 #28

Agree, barbtrees & Pete's observations about '16 are being blown out of proportion by a few here. mobeau69 Mar 2019 #38

What does being right matter? Kentonio Mar 2019 #94

what does being right matter. barbtries Mar 2019 #96

No seriously. Kentonio Mar 2019 #97

THIS 👆🏻👆🏻👆🏻👆🏻👆🏻👆🏻👆🏻 LenaBaby61 Apr 2019 #134

More Hillary bashing jcgoldie Mar 2019 #30

I believe Clinton said" half" are deplorable and it was an overheard comment delisen Apr 2019 #129

This didn't help in the rust belt either. This and "deplorables" comment was not good strategy. mobeau69 Mar 2019 #17

Hillary never said 'America is already great' crazytown Mar 2019 #24

OK, she retweeted it. mobeau69 Mar 2019 #25

Yes. It was a one off quoting the President. crazytown Mar 2019 #29

the pussy grabbing bigoted trash was going to make it all better JI7 Mar 2019 #36

Hillary campaigned in 3 cities in Florida. Blue_true Mar 2019 #45

I am not trying to argue that mistakes weren't made. barbtries Mar 2019 #49

the amazing thing is democrats still analyze politics as if rw radio didn't exist certainot Mar 2019 #58

that certainly has something to do with it. barbtries Mar 2019 #63

Agree. Hillary ran an excellent campaign with an awesome onetexan Apr 2019 #107

thank you. barbtries Apr 2019 #110

Comey, Putin JI7 Mar 2019 #9

I think Buttigieg would be better off if he had stuck with IndyOp Mar 2019 #15

I respect an honest perps. I respect truth. I respect intelligence. sarabelle Mar 2019 #26

Welcome to the DU, sarabelle! True Dough Mar 2019 #66

What a great first post. femmedem Mar 2019 #72

Whatever Lotusflower70 Mar 2019 #35

Defended Pence? babylonsister Mar 2019 #41

Buttigieg called Mike Pence "a super-nice guy" fleabiscuit Mar 2019 #48

Super nice guy who has abandoned his values to IndyOp Mar 2019 #62

Um...that was 2 years ago crimycarny Mar 2019 #65

He apparently doesn't have good instinct then. Pence was rotten 2 years ago too. fleabiscuit Mar 2019 #69

I think he knows that... babylonsister Mar 2019 #75

I really don't give a rat about Trump, Pence, or Pete. Or how they commingle with each other. fleabiscuit Mar 2019 #77

then why did you dishonestly claim Pete had defended Pence dsc Mar 2019 #91

I didn't. Someone wanted the words. Words+Google. Not that it makes any difference anyway. nt fleabiscuit Mar 2019 #101

He said Pence was 'the cheerleader for the pornstar presidency' crazytown Mar 2019 #50

Ha! That's what I remember. Thanks. nt babylonsister Mar 2019 #67

I cannot figure out TheFarseer Mar 2019 #43

Counties like mine were ignored by our side. Blue_true Mar 2019 #47

Because No One said it was "perfect" EVER. Cha Apr 2019 #127

Really hope Hillary zentrum Mar 2019 #52

When did she slam our current candidates? N/T lapucelle Mar 2019 #81

Yes, you're right but since zentrum Mar 2019 #85

A reporter characterizes a spokesperson's reaction to a particular statement lapucelle Mar 2019 #90

Oh the "Morphing".. Cha Apr 2019 #128

"HRC should proctively tell people who are not HRC to refrain lapucelle Apr 2019 #130

What!? Someone on this Cha Apr 2019 #131

Someone said this: lapucelle Apr 2019 #140

O ma gerd! Cha Apr 2019 #144

Let what go? Which candidates is she slamming? MrsCoffee Mar 2019 #84

Right. The zentrum Mar 2019 #86

I don't like this patphil Mar 2019 #54

Post removed Post removed Mar 2019 #82

I don't think it was that she said America is great, that actually was a smart appeal to patriotism, mr_liberal Mar 2019 #79

I agree that he needs to stop bloom Mar 2019 #95

This is what I mean when I say "he's inexperienced at national politicking." Honeycombe8 Mar 2019 #99

If they voted for him "just to kind of burn the house down" then they expected him to be terrible. betsuni Mar 2019 #103

One of the most ironic post titles I've ever seen. nt fleabiscuit Apr 2019 #109

All the people who say Buttigieg said this wrong or that wrong or apologized too little too late marylandblue Apr 2019 #123

Great post, worthy of its own OP. femmedem Apr 2019 #135

Agreed 100%. BlueWI Apr 2019 #147

I was a Clinton delegate to the National convention Gothmog Apr 2019 #139

Yes you are probably correct Rilgin Apr 2019 #141

You said it far better than me. BlueWI Apr 2019 #148