Democratic Primaries

ehrnst

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88. Right now, "any sane adult" would poll higher than Mango Mussolini

Wed Jan 29, 2020, 09:55 PM

Jan 2020

Trump and Sanders have never gone head to head in a GE. And it's clear the GOP wants him as a candidate in the GE.

President Trump’s advisers see Senator Bernie Sanders as their ideal Democratic opponent in November and have been doing what they can to elevate his profile and bolster his chances of winning the Iowa caucuses, according to Republicans familiar with the plans.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/14/us/politics/trump-sanders-bloomberg-2020.html

The Mueller report revealed that he Russia was backing him as a candidate. A GOP dark money superpac was running ads to bolster him in Nevada, and said as much.

The GOP has never turned their guns on him, neither has Russia. No polls have taken that into consideration.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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USA Today..Dems court doom by backing Sanders [View all] Thekaspervote Jan 2020 OP

Never be confused by that deceptive map guillaumeb Jan 2020 #1

I've been griping to my republican "friends" who boast about that map. Those huge red areas.... George II Jan 2020 #4

Two words: Electoral college. The Valley Below Jan 2020 #8

This!! Thekaspervote Jan 2020 #16

This what? Low information voters LIKE Bernie's gutsy, consistent views. DemocracyMouse Jan 2020 #53

Exactly. Cha Jan 2020 #117

Exactly. The map is propaganda. guillaumeb Jan 2020 #12

Hell, tRump had it spread out on his desk the other day. sheshe2 Jan 2020 #25

I assume that you are serious about this. guillaumeb Jan 2020 #51

Yes, he had about a 3" X 4" map on his desk two or three days ago. George II Jan 2020 #77

Two words aeromanKC Jan 2020 #74

The map is based on land. Land doesn't vote, people do. nt SunSeeker Jan 2020 #41

And much of that land is empty of people. guillaumeb Jan 2020 #52

Exactly. nt SunSeeker Jan 2020 #75

But every state no matter the population get two senators so they do matter. Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #92

Populated by antelope and snakes. KY_EnviroGuy Jan 2020 #80

That is grossly unfair! guillaumeb Jan 2020 #85

Not this Dem or anyone I know.. Thanks, Kasper! Cha Jan 2020 #2

they are toxic evertonfc Jan 2020 #3

im a dem and im not supporting him..i will 'if'...but not now samnsara Jan 2020 #5

Absolutely correct. Doom. NurseJackie Jan 2020 #6

Yep, he will do to us what he did in 2016. redstatebluegirl Jan 2020 #7

An opinion piece by Matt Bennett and Lanae Erickson - two people from Third Way Nanjeanne Jan 2020 #9

Third Way, if anyone is interested, is a think tank that insists that Democrats should join DanTex Jan 2020 #18

Not so!! Thekaspervote Jan 2020 #21

Really? You're denying that Third Way wants to cut Social Security??? DanTex Jan 2020 #24

That is right-wing framing to equate progressive solutions with Republican ones maximusveritas Jan 2020 #118

Right-wing framing is pretending that SS cuts are not actually SS cuts. DanTex Jan 2020 #119

It's also a collar placed by trendy hipsters onto anyone they disagree with. LanternWaste Jan 2020 #113

And yet they supported their opinion with facts and data. BannonsLiver Jan 2020 #49

Once we start counting primary votes a few states in calguy Jan 2020 #10

Oh shoot PatSeg Jan 2020 #11

This!! The first 4 states (prediction) Biden 56+% of the delegates sanders 50+ Thekaspervote Jan 2020 #14

Will Sanders step in as a Democrat or will he reject the party and step in as Independent? Bananaluver Jan 2020 #13

Look to who he surrounds himself with.... Historic NY Jan 2020 #43

That is why my questions are legitimate and why we should get an answer before ever pulling the Bananaluver Jan 2020 #44

every candidate should answer that, then krkaufman Jan 2020 #84

Yes, dware Jan 2020 #101

Sanders has run under Democratic, win and then go the rest as Independent. Sanders has hired all top Bananaluver Jan 2020 #107

I believe this to be a correct assessment Skittles Jan 2020 #15

LOL. These authors literally work for "Third Way", the think tank that DanTex Jan 2020 #17

I am probably not going to vote for Sanders in the primary.... TheRealNorth Jan 2020 #29

But you don't argue that they are wrong about Sanders' potential to lose big if he makes it to emmaverybo Jan 2020 #54

If Sanders Is The Nominee Younger Americans Will Turn Out Unlike 2016 DanieRains Jan 2020 #65

Sure they will. comradebillyboy Jan 2020 #69

Yeah, sure they will, dware Jan 2020 #102

When all I hear is doom and gloom Autumn Jan 2020 #19

Horse Manure ritapria Jan 2020 #20

Populist candidates from Our Revolution, Justice Democrats etc. 0 - 51 in 2108 in red districts. Scurrilous Jan 2020 #111

To translate, red states won't like Sanders walker59 Jan 2020 #22

"rather than stoking fear with dark hints" FiveGoodMen Jan 2020 #28

Yeah, that was the real point walker59 Jan 2020 #36

If he is down in Virginia and Delaware...no way he wins a general...and we have a Senate to consider Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #93

USA Today? Oh yeah, that's the one whose sales racks looked like TV screens, right? Ron Green Jan 2020 #23

That may be but the paper is read by 1.25 million daily Thekaspervote Jan 2020 #34

I don't know for sure, but I'd betcha there are a lot more voters... TreasonousBastard Jan 2020 #26

the problem MFM008 Jan 2020 #27

no matter who the candidate is. They've been doing that for decades. Kurt V. Jan 2020 #31

I know right. MFM008 Jan 2020 #108

I call BS on that. And as Bernie gets stronger and stronger the corporatists and totodeinhere Jan 2020 #30

Independents are not going to vote for a Socialist! MRDAWG Jan 2020 #32

Some people really are desperate to prevent an actual progressive running in the fall Tarc Jan 2020 #33

I'm not... I would happily vote for Warren Thekaspervote Jan 2020 #35

A lot of solid Democrats in the base of our party support Warren. Bananaluver Jan 2020 #46

Some people don't want to lose the general and house and give Trump four more years... Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #94

After 40+ years of Centrist leadership we're already at doom. Time to try something different. jalan48 Jan 2020 #37

Where have we heard that before? wyldwolf Jan 2020 #39

Wallace and Nader were 3rd party candidates and McGovern was almost 50 years ago. Biden won't jalan48 Jan 2020 #45

Links please for your opinion Thekaspervote Jan 2020 #56

It's my opinion. I don't think Biden can win against Trump. jalan48 Jan 2020 #57

Your entitled to your opinion Thekaspervote Jan 2020 #58

Exactly. Not to mention polls show Sanders beating Trump as well and yet we have OPs like this one. jalan48 Jan 2020 #61

Okay... show us Thekaspervote Jan 2020 #66

... jalan48 Jan 2020 #67

LOL. That poll shows ALL Dems beating Trump...and Biden is doing better than Bernie... ehrnst Jan 2020 #97

LOL. Reread the OP and you'll get it. jalan48 Jan 2020 #99

Lol. I was responding to your post where you shared that poll to show that Bernie "could beat Trump" ehrnst Jan 2020 #112

"Any sane adult" is ahead of Trump in the polls right now, and Biden is ahead of Sanders v Trump... ehrnst Jan 2020 #89

compare the enthusiasm NJCher Jan 2020 #78

I agree. Enthusiasm can mean greater turnout. Biden just doesn't have it. I watched a sixty minute jalan48 Jan 2020 #82

Louder cheering doesn't get any supporter more than one vote. Just ask Nader. ehrnst Jan 2020 #90

I know right??? ahoysrcsm Jan 2020 #109

No it is not...Trump is dangerous ...not the year to experiment...and if the left had backed us in Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #95

What is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result? NJCher Jan 2020 #100

I ask myself that everyday!! Bernie didn't win the last time..what makes you think he will now? Thekaspervote Jan 2020 #115

if I said NJCher Jan 2020 #116

Fearmongers gonna monger fear nt Fiendish Thingy Jan 2020 #38

It's the "nobody likes him" tone voters have learned to identify and reject. Aaron Pereira Jan 2020 #40

Yep. nt SunSeeker Jan 2020 #42

I notice a lot of Sanders supporters are faulting the messenger BannonsLiver Jan 2020 #47

Thank you!! Thekaspervote Jan 2020 #60

+, all that and divisiveness. R B Garr Jan 2020 #83

Message auto-removed Name removed Jan 2020 #48

Joe Biden Beats #45IMPEACHED MORE.. Cha Jan 2020 #55

Message auto-removed Name removed Jan 2020 #72

Best chance of winning against Donald Trump: @JoeBiden 44 % Cha Jan 2020 #73

Message auto-removed Name removed Jan 2020 #103

hang onto to that Cha Jan 2020 #105

Right now, "any sane adult" would poll higher than Mango Mussolini ehrnst Jan 2020 #88

Such a negative opinion Tiggeroshii Jan 2020 #50

I don't have a favorite but i have a least favorite. dem4decades Jan 2020 #59

Fuck the McPaper; nearly useless "journalism" Evolve Dammit Jan 2020 #62

that Maybe but it has a circulation of 1.25 million...so people/voters read it Thekaspervote Jan 2020 #68

Yeah, Americans suck up a lot of info-tainment pablum. As a paper, it sucks. Evolve Dammit Jan 2020 #71

They shove USA Today under the door of every hotel room in America ChubbyStar Jan 2020 #79

I back the Democrat. warmfeet Jan 2020 #63

Just heard someone on MSNBC saying pro Trump groups are ready fucking the Democrats and dem4decades Jan 2020 #64

Pragmatic/Realistic Dem's KNOW THIS. nt UniteFightBack Jan 2020 #70

the fucking REAGAN loving MEdia is afraid of zombie reagan's death. pansypoo53219 Jan 2020 #76

Post removed Post removed Jan 2020 #81

Joe who? ehrnst Jan 2020 #86

Let's all remember this..... KY_EnviroGuy Jan 2020 #87

Doom? mgcgulfcoast Jan 2020 #91

..... dware Jan 2020 #104

If sanders is the nominee, trump will win 45+ states and Kevin McCarthy will be Speaker of the House Gothmog Jan 2020 #96

sanders is a very weak candidate who will lose 45+ states and make Kevin McCarthy Speaker Gothmog Jan 2020 #98

A reminder - Sanders backed candidates were 0-51 in red districts during the midterms. Scurrilous Jan 2020 #106

K&R Tarheel_Dem Jan 2020 #110

Kick! Cha Jan 2020 #114