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Kaleva

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100. I was just asking you a simple question. One you won't answer.
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 12:57 PM
Jan 2020

Why did Biden counter the woman's statement ""I think Bernie's plan is pretty impressive. What they're comparing their plan to — "" with "Not a single solitary scientist think it'd work. You can not get to zero emissions by 2030. It's impossible."

As I've said in other posts, I think Biden just made a mistake. Thinking that Bernie's plan called for acheiving zero emissions byy 2030 when it actually calls for reducing emissions by 71% by that year.

Personally, I don't think it's much of a deal. Given how much candidates have to talk and answer questions, it's a given they'll sometimes get their facts wrong. And it's also a given that opponents will try to make political hay out of a candidate's mistakes.

I'm not trying to bash Biden here. I'm just trying to make the point that he most likely made a simple mistake.



If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden

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Yes. Bernie is really disappointing me with the way he is starting to outright lie about things. phleshdef Jan 2020 #1
Yes, he will do or say anything to win. redstatebluegirl Jan 2020 #5
Umm, one presumes the scientists that endorsed Bernie's plan actually think it could work. DanTex Jan 2020 #2
.. Tiggeroshii Jan 2020 #4
The discussion is about whether BS decontextualized and then misrepresented what Joe Biden said. N/T lapucelle Jan 2020 #10
It's not decontextualized at all. 40:00 in the CSPAN video. DanTex Jan 2020 #38
The video is more than 56 minutes, Sanders chose to show only 1:14 George II Jan 2020 #54
Yeah, 56 minutes is a bit long for a twitter clip. DanTex Jan 2020 #56
I've seen 10-12 minute videos on twitter. But a video longer than 1:14 would belie the bashing. George II Jan 2020 #58
Well, this was the part where Biden claimed Bernie's plan had no scientific support. DanTex Jan 2020 #59
. Hassin Bin Sober Jan 2020 #66
You've forgotten that you've been corrected on this... ehrnst Jan 2020 #70
The "correction" was about a different part of the video. DanTex Jan 2020 #72
The exchange is specifically about about zero emissions. lapucelle Jan 2020 #78
Decontextualized like this: ehrnst Jan 2020 #76
Nervous laughter... ehrnst Jan 2020 #37
Except he was agreeing with the guy he was responding to TheFarseer Jan 2020 #45
Actually... ehrnst Jan 2020 #49
We're talking about different things TheFarseer Jan 2020 #55
The antecedent for the pronoun "it" is zero emissions by 2030. lapucelle Jan 2020 #7
Incorrect. Check 40:00 in that video. DanTex Jan 2020 #11
That's neither in the transcript nor the closed captions lapucelle Jan 2020 #18
That's the part of the video that's in the Bernie tweet. DanTex Jan 2020 #36
You mean like when Obama said, "You didn't build that" ehrnst Jan 2020 #39
But quotation marks are for actual statements... ehrnst Jan 2020 #35
Umm, Biden never said the words that the BS tweet puts in his mouth. N/T lapucelle Jan 2020 #9
Yes, he did, he was responding to a woman who said "Bernie's plan is pretty impressive". DanTex Jan 2020 #13
He is living up to his initials! Bev54 Jan 2020 #24
... myohmy2 Jan 2020 #40
.... ehrnst Jan 2020 #46
-1 myohmy2 Jan 2020 #67
... ehrnst Jan 2020 #48
That's not the point of the highly cropped 1:14 video put out by the Sanders campaign. George II Jan 2020 #52
It's exactly the point of it, if you look right after 40:00 in the original. DanTex Jan 2020 #53
Actually...you seem to have forgotten being corrected about this. ehrnst Jan 2020 #73
I think this pretty much sums it up... DanTex Jan 2020 #75
Even Sanders doesn't call for zero fossil fuels or zero emissions by 2030. Here's his "plan"... George II Jan 2020 #63
. Hassin Bin Sober Jan 2020 #65
The GND calls for 0 emissions by 2030. Tiggeroshii Jan 2020 #3
Sanders always twists and mischaracterizes opponents NCProgressive Jan 2020 #6
Again??? PatSeg Jan 2020 #8
Did you watch the video? SHe was talking about Bernie's plan "being impressive" Tiggeroshii Jan 2020 #15
Joe said PatSeg Jan 2020 #21
She said "Bernie's plan is quite impressive." and He said "Not a single solitary scientist..." Tiggeroshii Jan 2020 #23
You wouldn't this would be so complicated, right? DanTex Jan 2020 #42
Folks are desperate to catch him at anything they could. And are reluctant to admit when they didn't Tiggeroshii Jan 2020 #44
It's glorious! Hassin Bin Sober Jan 2020 #68
Seriously though. Tiggeroshii Jan 2020 #77
+1 myohmy2 Jan 2020 #43
Actually, that's not quite right. ehrnst Jan 2020 #74
Of course I watched the video. I also read the transcript. lapucelle Jan 2020 #25
+1000 for truth mcar Jan 2020 #29
Right after she said Tiggeroshii Jan 2020 #31
Yeah, that's a different part of the video. Try 40:00 for the part Bernie clips. DanTex Jan 2020 #41
It's the part of the video that's directly before the the word "it". lapucelle Jan 2020 #79
You need to go to the 39:55 mark where the exchange took place Kaleva Jan 2020 #83
You need to listen to the whole two more minute exchange lapucelle Jan 2020 #84
I have. Where does the woman say we can reach zero emissions by 2030? Kaleva Jan 2020 #85
Where does Joe Biden say anything about the BS plan? lapucelle Jan 2020 #86
So why would Biden say achieving zero emissions by 2030 can't be done when no one suggests that? Kaleva Jan 2020 #88
Biden is talking about zero emissions. Where did BS get the part that Biden is talking about him? lapucelle Jan 2020 #89
Where did Biden get the zero emissions by 2030 from then? Kaleva Jan 2020 #90
I'm not quite sure what you're trying to show, but by all means carry on. lapucelle Jan 2020 #93
I was just asking you a simple question. One you won't answer. Kaleva Jan 2020 #100
Sorry, but I don't chase red herrings, especially not in the service of other people's agendas. lapucelle Jan 2020 #101
I don't think you know what a red herring is Kaleva Jan 2020 #102
Posting about anything other than the BS campaign's misrepresentation lapucelle Jan 2020 #104
This message was self-deleted by its author booley Jan 2020 #12
So why hasn't Bernie or AOC crafted actual legislation to introduce it? What they comradebillyboy Jan 2020 #14
It is actual legislation. Tiggeroshii Jan 2020 #16
When did that happen? Can you give me the bill numbers? comradebillyboy Jan 2020 #17
That's what legislation does. Tiggeroshii Jan 2020 #20
It is absolutely not legislation. It's a "resolution." frazzled Jan 2020 #50
It's not legislation, it's a resolution. It has virtually no details or plans. George II Jan 2020 #60
It was killed in the Senate already. Scurrilous Jan 2020 #71
Biden's plan is 0 emissions by 2050 Tiggeroshii Jan 2020 #19
I am so sick and tired of sanders..... chillfactor Jan 2020 #22
+++ still_one Jan 2020 #33
The tell is in brackets......... (Bernie's plan). nt UniteFightBack Jan 2020 #26
The brackets gave it away to me too. lapucelle Jan 2020 #27
Wow, they are in complete panic mode mcar Jan 2020 #28
This just seems desperate and not the actions of a candidate confident in their issues. ehrnst Jan 2020 #30
I think Bernie is helping Biden PatSeg Jan 2020 #61
You know the saying... sheshe2 Jan 2020 #91
Indeed. (nt) ehrnst Jan 2020 #92
Let the people vote we will all see the results soon ChubbyStar Jan 2020 #32
What's with Biden getting in people's faces like that? Especially women? Hassin Bin Sober Jan 2020 #34
And scolding his wife for standing too near to him on stage. ehrnst Jan 2020 #62
"That moment when Abby Huntsman tried to push BS out of her space" Cha Jan 2020 #64
Candidates who want to display they are capable of beating Trump should start yesterday. nt greyl Jan 2020 #47
David Sirota at it again. George II Jan 2020 #51
This message was self-deleted by its author mcar Jan 2020 #57
Green New Deal just got clubbed to death by Mitch in March. Scurrilous Jan 2020 #69
Of course. betsuni Jan 2020 #80
Need it be asked? Cha Jan 2020 #87
Who is surpirsed by this? Gothmog Jan 2020 #81
"I think Bernie's plan is pretty impressive" followed by Biden's reply Kaleva Jan 2020 #82
Message auto-removed Name removed Jan 2020 #94
My link is to the actual C-SPAN video of the event. lapucelle Jan 2020 #95
Message auto-removed Name removed Jan 2020 #97
I know what user clips are, and I know enough to be extremely wary lapucelle Jan 2020 #99
I remember that. It showed a complete lack of integrity. Glad it was called-out. NurseJackie Jan 2020 #106
And welcome to DU. lapucelle Jan 2020 #96
No he isn't, but Sanders is intentionally misrepresenting what Biden said. BTW, how can anyone... George II Jan 2020 #98
Yes RandySF Jan 2020 #103
Thank you for pointing this out, lapucelle! R B Garr Jan 2020 #105
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