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In reply to the discussion: Democrats court doom by backing Bernie Sanders. His ideas are toxic outside blue America. [View all]Gothmog
(181,598 posts)106. Data Reveals A Moderate Democrat Is The Best Chance To Beat Trump
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The Economist crunched data from various studies and found that a moderate would be the partys best chance to defeat Donald Trump in November.
Via The Economist:
This research suggests, then, that Mr Biden could perform better than his competitors against Mr Trump. He is more moderate than Mr Sanders, so both more likely to attract swing voters and less likely to motivate Republicans to vote against him. His strength with both black and racially conservative white voters could make a big difference in swing states. Recent polling from the New York Times and Siena College suggests that 6% of the electorate would vote for Mr Bidenbut not for Elizabeth Warrenagainst Mr Trump.
His advantage is evident in polls. According to The Economists analysis of publicly released polling data, Mr Biden performs better against Mr Trump than his competitors, nationwide and in swing states. Although polls of the general election conducted this early before a contest are not perfect, they are still helpful.
Mr Biden is not faultless. He is uninspiring on the stump and in debates. His Washington ties may inspire resentment from voters skeptical of elites. His candidacy would also represent a safety-first strategy for the Democrats at a time when many in the party desperately want to push a much more progressive economic, racial and social agenda. Yet for all that he still appears to be the Democrats best option in a contest against Mr Trump.
Trump is attacking Biden because he is the Democrat who poses the biggest threat
Joe Biden is the example used in the article, but the same principle applies to all of the moderate Democrat. Trump is extreme. The formula for beating a political extremist isnt to navigate to the opposite extreme.
Trump has abandoned the political middle, and it would be a foolish mistake for Democrats to believe that they could nominate any of their candidates and beat Trump. If Trump runs against someone on the far left, he will wrap himself in patriotism, and paint his opponent as the extremist.
Election Day turnout will be smaller because people in the middle will stay home instead of choosing between a candidate on the right, and a candidate on the left. A base election helps Trump and the Republican Party.
A moderate can beat Trump with a promise to end the crazy and bring the presidency and the nation back to normal. Beating an incumbent president is difficult, but according to the research, a moderate gives Democrats their best chance to win in 2020.
Via The Economist:
This research suggests, then, that Mr Biden could perform better than his competitors against Mr Trump. He is more moderate than Mr Sanders, so both more likely to attract swing voters and less likely to motivate Republicans to vote against him. His strength with both black and racially conservative white voters could make a big difference in swing states. Recent polling from the New York Times and Siena College suggests that 6% of the electorate would vote for Mr Bidenbut not for Elizabeth Warrenagainst Mr Trump.
His advantage is evident in polls. According to The Economists analysis of publicly released polling data, Mr Biden performs better against Mr Trump than his competitors, nationwide and in swing states. Although polls of the general election conducted this early before a contest are not perfect, they are still helpful.
Mr Biden is not faultless. He is uninspiring on the stump and in debates. His Washington ties may inspire resentment from voters skeptical of elites. His candidacy would also represent a safety-first strategy for the Democrats at a time when many in the party desperately want to push a much more progressive economic, racial and social agenda. Yet for all that he still appears to be the Democrats best option in a contest against Mr Trump.
Trump is attacking Biden because he is the Democrat who poses the biggest threat
Joe Biden is the example used in the article, but the same principle applies to all of the moderate Democrat. Trump is extreme. The formula for beating a political extremist isnt to navigate to the opposite extreme.
Trump has abandoned the political middle, and it would be a foolish mistake for Democrats to believe that they could nominate any of their candidates and beat Trump. If Trump runs against someone on the far left, he will wrap himself in patriotism, and paint his opponent as the extremist.
Election Day turnout will be smaller because people in the middle will stay home instead of choosing between a candidate on the right, and a candidate on the left. A base election helps Trump and the Republican Party.
A moderate can beat Trump with a promise to end the crazy and bring the presidency and the nation back to normal. Beating an incumbent president is difficult, but according to the research, a moderate gives Democrats their best chance to win in 2020.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
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Democrats court doom by backing Bernie Sanders. His ideas are toxic outside blue America. [View all]
Gothmog
Jan 2020
OP
Third Way is an advocacy group. They are in favor of SS cuts and other "centrist"
DanTex
Jan 2020
#7
I don't understand your question. What "names" other than Third Way do you mean?
DanTex
Jan 2020
#10
It's also an organization. And the people who wrote this article work for Third Way.
DanTex
Jan 2020
#96
Well, they wrote this article, so they have enough pull to get journals to give them space.
DanTex
Jan 2020
#98
Pretty fun to pretend we know whose friends are whose. As long as we admit it's pretense.
LanternWaste
Jan 2020
#94
LOL. The "cuts" are on billionaires and multi-millionares via means testing.
The Valley Below
Jan 2020
#18
I don't know, apparently there are some voters out there (and here) that want to cut SS.
DanTex
Jan 2020
#36
Joe should just admit to his past positions on SS and Medicare, but, understandably, he can't.
InAbLuEsTaTe
Jan 2020
#41
Means testing turns Social Security recipients into just another group that is . . .
markpkessinger
Jan 2020
#71
So billionaires and (at least for a time) millionaires get slagged on 24/7
The Valley Below
Jan 2020
#73
"What Republicans think" has a funny way of influencing what centrist Democrats think n/t
markpkessinger
Jan 2020
#74
Oh, now THERE's a comment that will unify the party and inspire votersto turn out at the polls .. .
markpkessinger
Jan 2020
#77
Unifying the party doesn't seem to me like where you are going with these BS attacks.
The Valley Below
Jan 2020
#78
Your posts have shown a HUGE problem with anyone you consider "centrist" which is
ehrnst
Jan 2020
#87
Yeaaa, they may be talking about Bernie now but honestly, I think it'll be all about Bloomberg soon
Vivienne235729
Jan 2020
#12
The great liberal Democrat Joe Biden is ahead, has always been ahead, and is on track
The Valley Below
Jan 2020
#20
I won't argue w that. I can see him picking off JB's #'s. But I don't think thats a bad thing right
Vivienne235729
Jan 2020
#23
Biden took the fight to Trump from day one. He defined the 2020 election more profoundly than
emmaverybo
Jan 2020
#80
Nope, I heard it. I also heard them go after each other which really dilutes their attack on trump.
Vivienne235729
Feb 2020
#144
Yup, lovin' it. Hillary's latest urge to run may bring her into the race too...
InAbLuEsTaTe
Jan 2020
#38
We've tried goin the centrist route several times recently, without success...
InAbLuEsTaTe
Jan 2020
#51
George McGovern was a very decent man. In contrast, Nixon's campaign
OneMoreCupOfCoffee
Jan 2020
#83
Not that long ago this kind of crap would not have been tolerated on DU. I'm beginning to think
lutherj
Jan 2020
#22
sure is interesting how russian bots sneak these progressive hit pieces into DU nt
yaesu
Jan 2020
#26
Are you accusing Gothmog of being a Russian bot, or am I misunderstanding your post?
Jedi Guy
Feb 2020
#153
You say you are Bernie or bust; will you support the Democratic nominee if it is not Sanders?
LongtimeAZDem
Jan 2020
#50
What is really toxic is that article, nothing to rejoice about even if you don't support Sanders
Perseus
Jan 2020
#42
I believe with a moderate candidate we could get many Pub votes from thosse who are disgusted with
napi21
Jan 2020
#52
We're repeating the same mistakes of 2016 and are going to lose if it keeps up.
Chicago1980
Jan 2020
#58
The establishment does indeed have a lot to lose with a Sanders candidacy.
Scotch-Irish
Jan 2020
#109
That's just not true. Sanders appeals to a lot of the trump voters that wanted someone
Scotch-Irish
Jan 2020
#111
I was a delegate in 2016 and right now I plan on honoring the tradition of letting other people go
Gothmog
Jan 2020
#119
The status quo would be re-electing trump which is what happen if sanders is nominee
Gothmog
Jan 2020
#114
I do not want to see trump re-elected due to such a weak candidate like sanders
Gothmog
Jan 2020
#120