Democratic Primaries

totodeinhere

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65. I don't know what to think about who is the most electable.

Sat Feb 1, 2020, 03:28 PM

Feb 2020

I would like to think that any of our candidates should be able to win an election like this. But the cynic in me tells me that's not the case. But one thing we do know. Lately the pollsters haven't had a very good track record. And polls this early on are often not very good predictors. Hello President Howard Dean. Hello President Gary Hart. Hello President Edmond Muskie. These are the same pollsters who told us that Hillary Clinton was a virtual lock and we know how that turned out. And then we have to add to the mix the very real chance that the other side will cheat and accept foreign interference in the election again. So since I really have no idea who is most electable I may as well go with my heart and support the candidate of my choice since I have no idea if he is the most electable or if someone else is.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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It appears to me the Democratic base thinks this election is a gimme and electability doesn't matter [View all] NewsCenter28 Feb 2020 OP

It isnt them that convinced themselves of a fantasy Tiggeroshii Feb 2020 #1

Your candidate will usher in a Trump monarchical dynasty NewsCenter28 Feb 2020 #3

The last time we had somebody run on a similar vision, we won in a landslide Tiggeroshii Feb 2020 #6

Who? betsuni Feb 2020 #8

Obama was the one who said we should think bigger Tiggeroshii Feb 2020 #9

What ideas was he criticized as too pie in the sky? betsuni Feb 2020 #10

Simply the message of hope and change was considered outrageous Tiggeroshii Feb 2020 #11

"Hope and Change" considered outrageous and fantastical? betsuni Feb 2020 #12

Specifically, Clinton called it "false hope." Tiggeroshii Feb 2020 #13

In the general election? betsuni Feb 2020 #14

It wasn't that long ago... tonedevil Feb 2020 #68

Obama had major support of POC showblue22 Feb 2020 #15

Obama ran in the middle and was not a socialist...other than Rev. Wright...he had no issues... Demsrule86 Feb 2020 #36

Progressives slammed Obama as a neoliberal, corporatist shill mcar Feb 2020 #76

trump would easily destory a weak and un-electable candidate like sanders Gothmog Feb 2020 #91

oooh scary! Nice slam! Blues Heron Feb 2020 #28

triump would destroy a weak candidate candidate like sanders Gothmog Feb 2020 #90

If Bernie wins the primary ,Trump will be re-elected. octoberlib Feb 2020 #2

Precisely and I am so disappointed in my fellow democrats NewsCenter28 Feb 2020 #5

I do NOT believe that BS will "win" the homination. BlueMTexpat Feb 2020 #19

what lottery numbers should we play next week, maybe your crystal ball can say? Blues Heron Feb 2020 #29

The OP is total bullshit. Pass it on. Scurrilous Feb 2020 #51

People better realize the odds are slightly in Trump's favor. RandySF Feb 2020 #4

I pray that they do! I think us true dems NewsCenter28 Feb 2020 #7

oooh true dems! got it. Thanks for clearing that up! Blues Heron Feb 2020 #30

Trump is likely to win if the Democrats are not careful Gothmog Feb 2020 #16

It would appear that for many, maintaining the status quo is not good enough. CentralMass Feb 2020 #17

If Sanders wins the nomination, you get Trump in the general...than the new status quo will be Demsrule86 Feb 2020 #37

All the women dying due to rollback of RvW protections; MH1 Feb 2020 #52

If you are agreement with the author of this post that if Bernie wins the nomination he will lose to CentralMass Feb 2020 #63

Normalcy can be a winning Democratic trope, divisiveness isn't Vogon_Glory Feb 2020 #18

You have an opinion. RealClearPolitics has both Biden and Sanders ahead of tRump nationally. CentralMass Feb 2020 #22

You have refused to understand that this EC election...and Sanders won't take the blue wall state... Demsrule86 Feb 2020 #39

+1 n/t Vogon_Glory Feb 2020 #62

Thanks Demsrule86 Feb 2020 #74

That is not correct according to RealClearPolitics. Bernie leads tRump in the blue wall states + VA. CentralMass Feb 2020 #64

The polls in the mid west by mid west show Biden as best...Sanders will never take the blue Wall. Demsrule86 Feb 2020 #73

Well polling supports the case that Sanders can win there and your opinion is worth no more CentralMass Feb 2020 #84

We are talking about beating Trump and that he won't be able to do. Demsrule86 Feb 2020 #86

Neither of us has a crystal ball. The polls show both beating tRump in those states. CentralMass Feb 2020 #87

No one has a crystal ball, but I lived in Wisconsin and other Mid West states...and he will not win Demsrule86 Feb 2020 #93

Lot of divisiveness coming from the anti-bernie bros today. hmmm Blues Heron Feb 2020 #31

What? I'm not totally agog with the wisdom and clarity of Bernie Sanders and his followers? Vogon_Glory Feb 2020 #35

Lots of wishful thinking coming from the 'Bernie Bros today and a refusal to look at thing the way Demsrule86 Feb 2020 #40

LOL Today? It's every day. They live in the land of falsities. Scurrilous Feb 2020 #47

The OP is deliberately misrepresenting poll numbers. Scurrilous Feb 2020 #48

Frankly, I do not BlueMTexpat Feb 2020 #20

Since the OP is making shit up you are totally right about not putting faith in it. Scurrilous Feb 2020 #50

The base knows all the real work lies ahead randr Feb 2020 #21

Getting rid of Trump will not only improve our lot...it will save the Republican... I am not worried Demsrule86 Feb 2020 #41

I am just as worried now as 4 years ago randr Feb 2020 #54

Vote blue no matter who!!! blueinredohio Feb 2020 #23

I dare say sanders or warren have little chance in the electibility area in beachbumbob Feb 2020 #24

100% correct Freddie Feb 2020 #27

Not sure we should be catering to an isolated corner of very red western PA Blues Heron Feb 2020 #34

We lost in rural PA last time...that is how we lost the state...they came out in droves and voted Demsrule86 Feb 2020 #42

We must get PA back. squirecam Feb 2020 #59

Lamb has endorsed Biden...and I still think Amy is a great VP. Demsrule86 Feb 2020 #94

disagree Blues Heron Feb 2020 #32

+1 Vogon_Glory Feb 2020 #38

If Biden is so " "electable" ritapria Feb 2020 #25

yup Blues Heron Feb 2020 #33

Primaries are not generals...and some refuse to face political reality...not not saying you... Demsrule86 Feb 2020 #43

Why, why and why. Sound confused. Scurrilous Feb 2020 #53

People have seen the "safe" candidate lose three times in the last 20 years Blues Heron Feb 2020 #26

No such thing as a safe candidate...but there is such a thing as a doomed candidate...Dukakis, Demsrule86 Feb 2020 #44

Way to ignore the election of America's first black President. Mega kudos for that omission. Mega. Scurrilous Feb 2020 #61

Michael Moore is the best thing that ever happened to the Republicans. Zolorp Feb 2020 #71

He likes to keep his audience disaffected and amendable to his bullshit. Scurrilous Feb 2020 #72

re: "Way to ignore the election of America's first black President." thesquanderer Feb 2020 #81

I think you're mistaken about exactly who comprises the Democratic base. N/T lapucelle Feb 2020 #45

'Bernie leads nationally and in every recent state poll other than SC.' Scurrilous Feb 2020 #46

Wrong-Bernie is crushing it in every IA and NH poll NewsCenter28 Feb 2020 #69

'...and in every recent state poll other than SC.' Scurrilous Feb 2020 #70

Unfortunately I've seen a number of posts here saying any Democrat can beat Trump and so highplainsdem Feb 2020 #49

And - Right to free health care. Right to a job. Right to housing. Legal weed for all. Scurrilous Feb 2020 #57

'the base' is the wrong term to use. wyldwolf Feb 2020 #55

Bravo. emmaverybo Feb 2020 #80

Here in Michigan, Biden & Sanders are essentially TIED, catbyte Feb 2020 #56

No. Biden is up in both average and latest. 5.6% and 5%. He is ahead of Sanders. Not tied. Scurrilous Feb 2020 #60

Barely outside the statistical margin of error. totodeinhere Feb 2020 #66

Outside of the MOE is the very definition of "not tied". TwilightZone Feb 2020 #78

You are angry that Autumn Feb 2020 #58

The most popular candidate among the Democratic base isn't always the most electsble totodeinhere Feb 2020 #67

I don't know what to think about who is the most electable. totodeinhere Feb 2020 #65

Democratic base? mcar Feb 2020 #75

this election is a gimme. who the nominee hardly matters. Except for sanders. Kurt V. Feb 2020 #77

Except for Sanders? Polls show he's second only to Biden in how well we do against Trump. n/t thesquanderer Feb 2020 #82

i think he can win. but polling biggest problem is it can't predict size and demographics Kurt V. Feb 2020 #85

Electability is not a game DonCoquixote Feb 2020 #79

re:"somehow convinced themselves that BS is the most electable candidate" thesquanderer Feb 2020 #83

the only 'gimme' election in my lifetime was... maybe... '08 wyldwolf Feb 2020 #88

Opinion: If the economy keeps its momentum, 2020 will be Trump's to lose https:// Gothmog Feb 2020 #89

Remember when we thought 2004 was a gimme? Recursion Feb 2020 #92

On this day in 2016, who was perceived as more electable - Jeb Bush or Donald Trump? Algernon Moncrieff Feb 2020 #95