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highplainsdem

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Sat Feb 1, 2020, 08:10 PM Feb 2020

For those who don't understand why Clinton said what she did about Sanders' role in Congress [View all]

Last edited Mon Feb 3, 2020, 02:20 AM - Edit history (1)

Let's look at the exact quote again:

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/features/hillary-clinton-full-a-fiery-new-documentary-trump-regrets-harsh-words-bernie-1271551


He was in Congress for years. He had one senator support him. Nobody likes him, nobody wants to work with him, he got nothing done.


This 2015 Politico article on Sanders helps explain what she was referring to:

https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2015/08/bernie-sanders-2016-democrats-121181

-snip-

In an op-ed in the New York Times in January 1989, he called the Democratic and Republican parties “tweedle-dee” and “tweedle-dum,” both adhering in his estimation to an “ideology of greed and vulgarity.”

-snip-

He was, when he arrived in Washington, the only one of the 535 members of Congress who didn’t identify as either a Democrat or a Republican.

“I am extremely proud to be an independent,” he told the Associated Press seven months into his congressional career. “The fact that I am not a Democrat gives me the freedom to speak out on the floor of the House, to vote against both the Democratic and Republican proposals.”

The flip side at first was this: “He screams and hollers,” Rep. Joe Moakley (D-Mass.) said to the AP at the time, “but he is all alone.” Rep. Bill Richardson (D-N.M.) called Sanders “a homeless waif.” Said Rep. Barney Frank, in ’91: “Bernie alienates his natural allies. His holier-than-thou attitude—saying in a very loud voice he is smarter than everyone else and purer than everyone else—really undercuts his effectiveness.”


-snip-

The Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee, led by New York’s Chuck Schumer, quickly got behind Sanders when he ran, and Nevada’s Harry Reid happily welcomed him to the Senate Democratic Caucus once he won. In December of that year, a month after his election, Ted Kennedy invited Sanders and the rest of the Democrats on the Senate’s Health, Education and Labor and Pensions Committee to an intimate dinner at his Washington home. Also in attendance? Barack Obama. And Hillary Clinton.

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Emphasis added.

So, Clinton's view that no one in Congress liked Sanders apparently is due to what she'd have heard about him during his early years there, which coincided with the early years of the Clinton adminisration.

In the Senate, Harry Reid welcomed Sanders -- I'm guessing he was the one senator Clinton said supported Sanders. And she and Sanders were both in the Senate in 2007 and 2008. But she was focusing more on her first presidential run then.

So it isn't surprising that her strongest impression of Sanders would be based on what she heard about him in the 1990s.

And, of course, what he said about the Democratic Party, which wouldn't have made him many friends among Democrats.


As for how much work he got done -- Sanders focused on amendments.

https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2016/mar/24/bernie-s/bernie-sanders-was-roll-call-amendment-king-1995-2/

Sanders got only three bills passed -- out of more than 300 introduced -- in his 25 years in Congress. Two of those bills named post offices, the third increased veterans' disability income.

OTOH, Clinton also got only 3 bills passed, in 8 years in the Senate, and two of them renamed highways.

But a Politico article in 2015 listed more of Clinton's legislative achievements, among her other achievements, in an article following Carly Fiorina having dared Democrats to name any accomplishment of Clinton's.

https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2015/09/carly-fiorina-debate-hillary-clintons-greatest-accomplishment-213157


‘The SCHIP program … which expanded health coverage to millions of lower-income children’

By Anita Dunn, Democratic political strategist.

After universal health care failed in 1994, the Clinton Administration was reluctant to go anywhere near healthcare again—Democrats lost the Senate and the House in 1994, and losing the house was for the first time in 40 years. Then-First Lady Hilary Clinton ended up being the White House ally and inside player who worked with Ted Kennedy and Orrin Hatch to create the SCHIP program in Clinton's second term, which expanded health coverage to millions of lower-income children. She has other accomplishments but this one made a huge difference, and came at a time when politically the Administration was cutting deals with Newt Gingrich on the budget and not necessarily all that enthusiastic about revisiting health care.


-snip-

‘The Pediatric Research Equity Act’

By Chris Dodd, former U.S. Senator for Connecticut, Democratic party.

Having worked with her in the Senate and on the HELP Committee, the first thing that came to mind was her authorship of the Pediatric Research Equity Act. This law requires drug companies to study their products in children. The Act is responsible for changing the drug labeling of hundreds of drugs with important information about safety and dosing of drugs for children. It has improved the health of millions of children who take medications to treat diseases ranging from HIV to epilepsy to asthma. Millions of kids are in better shape and alive because of the law Senator Clinton authored.


-snip-


‘I’ve seen, first-hand, her exceptional work at every level’

By Patrick Leahy, U.S. Senator for Vermont, Democratic party.

-snip-

In the Senate we worked together on efforts to clean up Lake Champlain and to help Vermont’s and New York’s family farmers. She was at the center of securing help for New York’s 9/11 first responders. We worked together in enacting the Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay Act, which was the first bill signed into law by President Obama. I was chairman of the State Department’s budget committee when she was Secretary of State, and I worked closely with her—week to week, and sometimes day to day—on a wide, wide range of issues and challenges, from human rights to global health. We traveled together to Haiti as we worked to help that country recover from the devastation of the earthquake. She had a leading role in securing tougher sanctions on Iran. We worked together to successfully overcome obstruction by House Republicans of the funding she requested to improve embassy security around the world. Some of her most important achievements were her steady, methodical efforts, with the President, to help reintroduce America to the world after the diplomatic setbacks under the previous administration.


-snip-


‘The Adoption and Safe Families Act’

By Neera Tanden, President of the Center for American Progress.

As First Lady, Hillary was the point person in the Clinton Administration on the Adoption and Safe Families Act of 1997, a bill that refocused adoption policies on the needs of the children, made it easier to remove children from abusive situations, provided support and services to adoptive families, and encouraged adoption of children with special needs. The bill increased foster adoptions by 64 percent by 2002.

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The rest of the list includes a LOT of her accomplishments as Secretary of State.

Anyway, THIS is what Clinton was evaluating Sanders' career in Congress against.


She had reasons for her comments.

You might argue if they were adequate reasons, or if the timing of the criticism was bad.

But I hope this puts her remarks in perspective.

And again -- as I've said elsewhere -- she wasn't saying that no one anywhere liked Sanders. But he didn't get along with Democrats in Congress, and that's what she was talking about.


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Editing to recommend that people check reply 20 below to see Bernie's own assessment, in 1990, of his problems getting along with people.
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Exactly what i said earlier today. what i failed to say is who is *nobody* and who isn't? Kurt V. Feb 2020 #1
Hillary was referring to Senators. nt SunSeeker Feb 2020 #29
Could someone explain to me how sanders' magical voter revolution works in the real world? Gothmog Feb 2020 #41
this explains it some even though she singles out sanders. most of the other stuff applies to Kurt V. Feb 2020 #47
sanders promised sufficient new voters to force the GOP be reasonabl Gothmog Feb 2020 #48
The truth hurts. Skya Rhen Feb 2020 #2
Yep. highplainsdem Feb 2020 #36
And of course.. some took that right the hell out Cha Feb 2020 #3
You're very welcome, Cha! highplainsdem Feb 2020 #46
Excellent post, thanks very much! George II Feb 2020 #4
Context is everything still_one Feb 2020 #5
Ungrateful billpolonsky Feb 2020 #6
Do you have proof that letter actually came from Hillary? zackymilly Feb 2020 #11
Did he provide his email list? nt SunSeeker Feb 2020 #30
He showed up 17 days out of the 102 days in the general election campaign. N/T lapucelle Feb 2020 #32
Could it be his backlog of income tax data needed tending to? oasis Feb 2020 #37
Decorating a new home can be time consuming. lapucelle Feb 2020 #43
More times than Buzz cook Feb 2020 #56
From BBC News July 6, 2016. lapucelle Feb 2020 #58
sanders was mainly talking about himself and selling books Gothmog Feb 2020 #50
+1 betsuni Feb 2020 #54
And how many of them did he start with a recitation of his pledged delegate count? ehrnst Feb 2020 #62
Thanks for the time it took to put that together in an organized way. nt Atticus Feb 2020 #7
'Leopard does not change its spots' empedocles Feb 2020 #8
Facts matter. sheshe2 Feb 2020 #9
So, we have posts of non candidates who are attacking candidates that are actually working to defeat yaesu Feb 2020 #10
Was visited this morning by couple of Jehovah's Witnesses aka-chmeee Feb 2020 #12
Ouch!! Thekaspervote Feb 2020 #22
Thanks for this mcar Feb 2020 #13
A lot of the vitriol at Sanders is because he stands on principle and is so consistent. DanTex Feb 2020 #14
This message was self-deleted by its author highplainsdem Feb 2020 #16
What part of the article on the nasty things Sanders said about Democrats, and how his fellow highplainsdem Feb 2020 #17
Sure, he could have opposed the Iraq War more gently, I guess. DanTex Feb 2020 #18
According to BuzzFeed, quoting a book written by a former Sanders staffer, this is what he told her highplainsdem Feb 2020 #20
Right, people who supported the Iraq War probably thought his vote against it was harsh. DanTex Feb 2020 #24
Maybe it was the people who supported the Brady Bill. N/T lapucelle Feb 2020 #33
This message was self-deleted by its author Malmsy Feb 2020 #60
People who don't understand Bernie don't like him. Malmsy Feb 2020 #61
And it doesn't matter. He's not trying to be popular, he's trying to bring social fairness into JudyM Feb 2020 #65
Nonsense Tweedy Feb 2020 #68
He said himself that he "doesn't tolerate bullshit" and that keeps him focused Malmsy Feb 2020 #63
But how many times did he vote for military intervention in Iraq? ehrnst Feb 2020 #39
If anything, Sanders is not an actor, he is very genuine Perseus Feb 2020 #21
See reply 20. Sanders admitted to his own press secretary in 1990 that he can be a nasty SOB and highplainsdem Feb 2020 #28
Lol!! Thekaspervote Feb 2020 #23
Excellent post. KPN Feb 2020 #35
He calls out corruption instead of getting in line: not a way to make friends with a corrupt system. JudyM Feb 2020 #64
Again, we'll wait for you to provide objective data to support your allegation. LanternWaste Feb 2020 #66
I stand with Hillary Clinton NCProgressive Feb 2020 #15
+1 SunSeeker Feb 2020 #31
Not sure who said it but here it is... Perseus Feb 2020 #19
I can't wait to see this documentary, which I had no idea had been made. northoftheborder Feb 2020 #25
Interesting Perseus Feb 2020 #26
She was not wrong, yeah, and truth does hurt. NotHardly Feb 2020 #27
So tired of these Sanders hit pieces and Hillary apologists in this matter. LS_Editor Feb 2020 #34
This isn't a Sanders hit piece. This is simply an explanation of why HRC said what she said -- an highplainsdem Feb 2020 #42
For those who don't understand how Sanders has lead and Hillary has followed Quixote1818 Feb 2020 #38
sanders has zero legislative accomplishments in the real world Gothmog Feb 2020 #40
Wrong Quixote1818 Feb 2020 #44
Thank you for the laughs Gothmog Feb 2020 #45
217 co-sponsored bills passed. Quixote1818 Feb 2020 #51
Socialism polls poorly Gothmog Feb 2020 #49
Even though the voting public has little knowledge of socialism... pbmus Feb 2020 #52
You do know that attack ads work? Gothmog Feb 2020 #53
To the ignorant voter, yes... pbmus Feb 2020 #55
Denial is not just a river in Africa Gothmog Feb 2020 #59
You have me mistakenly advocating for Bernie... pbmus Feb 2020 #67
sorry Gothmog Feb 2020 #69
Those were roll call amendments, a ego thing Ninsianna Feb 2020 #57
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