Democratic Primaries

thesquanderer

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82. Except for Sanders? Polls show he's second only to Biden in how well we do against Trump. n/t

Reply to Kurt V. (Reply #77)

Sat Feb 1, 2020, 09:29 PM

Feb 2020

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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It appears to me the Democratic base thinks this election is a gimme and electability doesn't matter [View all] NewsCenter28 Feb 2020 OP

It isnt them that convinced themselves of a fantasy Tiggeroshii Feb 2020 #1

Your candidate will usher in a Trump monarchical dynasty NewsCenter28 Feb 2020 #3

The last time we had somebody run on a similar vision, we won in a landslide Tiggeroshii Feb 2020 #6

Who? betsuni Feb 2020 #8

Obama was the one who said we should think bigger Tiggeroshii Feb 2020 #9

What ideas was he criticized as too pie in the sky? betsuni Feb 2020 #10

Simply the message of hope and change was considered outrageous Tiggeroshii Feb 2020 #11

"Hope and Change" considered outrageous and fantastical? betsuni Feb 2020 #12

Specifically, Clinton called it "false hope." Tiggeroshii Feb 2020 #13

In the general election? betsuni Feb 2020 #14

It wasn't that long ago... tonedevil Feb 2020 #68

Obama had major support of POC showblue22 Feb 2020 #15

Obama ran in the middle and was not a socialist...other than Rev. Wright...he had no issues... Demsrule86 Feb 2020 #36

Progressives slammed Obama as a neoliberal, corporatist shill mcar Feb 2020 #76

trump would easily destory a weak and un-electable candidate like sanders Gothmog Feb 2020 #91

oooh scary! Nice slam! Blues Heron Feb 2020 #28

triump would destroy a weak candidate candidate like sanders Gothmog Feb 2020 #90

If Bernie wins the primary ,Trump will be re-elected. octoberlib Feb 2020 #2

Precisely and I am so disappointed in my fellow democrats NewsCenter28 Feb 2020 #5

I do NOT believe that BS will "win" the homination. BlueMTexpat Feb 2020 #19

what lottery numbers should we play next week, maybe your crystal ball can say? Blues Heron Feb 2020 #29

The OP is total bullshit. Pass it on. Scurrilous Feb 2020 #51

People better realize the odds are slightly in Trump's favor. RandySF Feb 2020 #4

I pray that they do! I think us true dems NewsCenter28 Feb 2020 #7

oooh true dems! got it. Thanks for clearing that up! Blues Heron Feb 2020 #30

Trump is likely to win if the Democrats are not careful Gothmog Feb 2020 #16

It would appear that for many, maintaining the status quo is not good enough. CentralMass Feb 2020 #17

If Sanders wins the nomination, you get Trump in the general...than the new status quo will be Demsrule86 Feb 2020 #37

All the women dying due to rollback of RvW protections; MH1 Feb 2020 #52

If you are agreement with the author of this post that if Bernie wins the nomination he will lose to CentralMass Feb 2020 #63

Normalcy can be a winning Democratic trope, divisiveness isn't Vogon_Glory Feb 2020 #18

You have an opinion. RealClearPolitics has both Biden and Sanders ahead of tRump nationally. CentralMass Feb 2020 #22

You have refused to understand that this EC election...and Sanders won't take the blue wall state... Demsrule86 Feb 2020 #39

+1 n/t Vogon_Glory Feb 2020 #62

Thanks Demsrule86 Feb 2020 #74

That is not correct according to RealClearPolitics. Bernie leads tRump in the blue wall states + VA. CentralMass Feb 2020 #64

The polls in the mid west by mid west show Biden as best...Sanders will never take the blue Wall. Demsrule86 Feb 2020 #73

Well polling supports the case that Sanders can win there and your opinion is worth no more CentralMass Feb 2020 #84

We are talking about beating Trump and that he won't be able to do. Demsrule86 Feb 2020 #86

Neither of us has a crystal ball. The polls show both beating tRump in those states. CentralMass Feb 2020 #87

No one has a crystal ball, but I lived in Wisconsin and other Mid West states...and he will not win Demsrule86 Feb 2020 #93

Lot of divisiveness coming from the anti-bernie bros today. hmmm Blues Heron Feb 2020 #31

What? I'm not totally agog with the wisdom and clarity of Bernie Sanders and his followers? Vogon_Glory Feb 2020 #35

Lots of wishful thinking coming from the 'Bernie Bros today and a refusal to look at thing the way Demsrule86 Feb 2020 #40

LOL Today? It's every day. They live in the land of falsities. Scurrilous Feb 2020 #47

The OP is deliberately misrepresenting poll numbers. Scurrilous Feb 2020 #48

Frankly, I do not BlueMTexpat Feb 2020 #20

Since the OP is making shit up you are totally right about not putting faith in it. Scurrilous Feb 2020 #50

The base knows all the real work lies ahead randr Feb 2020 #21

Getting rid of Trump will not only improve our lot...it will save the Republican... I am not worried Demsrule86 Feb 2020 #41

I am just as worried now as 4 years ago randr Feb 2020 #54

Vote blue no matter who!!! blueinredohio Feb 2020 #23

I dare say sanders or warren have little chance in the electibility area in beachbumbob Feb 2020 #24

100% correct Freddie Feb 2020 #27

Not sure we should be catering to an isolated corner of very red western PA Blues Heron Feb 2020 #34

We lost in rural PA last time...that is how we lost the state...they came out in droves and voted Demsrule86 Feb 2020 #42

We must get PA back. squirecam Feb 2020 #59

Lamb has endorsed Biden...and I still think Amy is a great VP. Demsrule86 Feb 2020 #94

disagree Blues Heron Feb 2020 #32

+1 Vogon_Glory Feb 2020 #38

If Biden is so " "electable" ritapria Feb 2020 #25

yup Blues Heron Feb 2020 #33

Primaries are not generals...and some refuse to face political reality...not not saying you... Demsrule86 Feb 2020 #43

Why, why and why. Sound confused. Scurrilous Feb 2020 #53

People have seen the "safe" candidate lose three times in the last 20 years Blues Heron Feb 2020 #26

No such thing as a safe candidate...but there is such a thing as a doomed candidate...Dukakis, Demsrule86 Feb 2020 #44

Way to ignore the election of America's first black President. Mega kudos for that omission. Mega. Scurrilous Feb 2020 #61

Michael Moore is the best thing that ever happened to the Republicans. Zolorp Feb 2020 #71

He likes to keep his audience disaffected and amendable to his bullshit. Scurrilous Feb 2020 #72

re: "Way to ignore the election of America's first black President." thesquanderer Feb 2020 #81

I think you're mistaken about exactly who comprises the Democratic base. N/T lapucelle Feb 2020 #45

'Bernie leads nationally and in every recent state poll other than SC.' Scurrilous Feb 2020 #46

Wrong-Bernie is crushing it in every IA and NH poll NewsCenter28 Feb 2020 #69

'...and in every recent state poll other than SC.' Scurrilous Feb 2020 #70

Unfortunately I've seen a number of posts here saying any Democrat can beat Trump and so highplainsdem Feb 2020 #49

And - Right to free health care. Right to a job. Right to housing. Legal weed for all. Scurrilous Feb 2020 #57

'the base' is the wrong term to use. wyldwolf Feb 2020 #55

Bravo. emmaverybo Feb 2020 #80

Here in Michigan, Biden & Sanders are essentially TIED, catbyte Feb 2020 #56

No. Biden is up in both average and latest. 5.6% and 5%. He is ahead of Sanders. Not tied. Scurrilous Feb 2020 #60

Barely outside the statistical margin of error. totodeinhere Feb 2020 #66

Outside of the MOE is the very definition of "not tied". TwilightZone Feb 2020 #78

You are angry that Autumn Feb 2020 #58

The most popular candidate among the Democratic base isn't always the most electsble totodeinhere Feb 2020 #67

I don't know what to think about who is the most electable. totodeinhere Feb 2020 #65

Democratic base? mcar Feb 2020 #75

this election is a gimme. who the nominee hardly matters. Except for sanders. Kurt V. Feb 2020 #77

Except for Sanders? Polls show he's second only to Biden in how well we do against Trump. n/t thesquanderer Feb 2020 #82

i think he can win. but polling biggest problem is it can't predict size and demographics Kurt V. Feb 2020 #85

Electability is not a game DonCoquixote Feb 2020 #79

re:"somehow convinced themselves that BS is the most electable candidate" thesquanderer Feb 2020 #83

the only 'gimme' election in my lifetime was... maybe... '08 wyldwolf Feb 2020 #88

Opinion: If the economy keeps its momentum, 2020 will be Trump's to lose https:// Gothmog Feb 2020 #89

Remember when we thought 2004 was a gimme? Recursion Feb 2020 #92

On this day in 2016, who was perceived as more electable - Jeb Bush or Donald Trump? Algernon Moncrieff Feb 2020 #95