Democratic Primaries

Gothmog

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77. I agree with O'Malley

Sun Feb 2, 2020, 12:18 PM

Feb 2020

sanders has zero legislative accomplishments and can not work with his fellow members of congress. I do not understand how a magical voter revolution is suppose to work in the real world and I do not see how sanders can be deemed a serious candidate in the real world

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It's true. Bernie hasn't always gotten along with all his colleagues in congress. [View all] DanTex Feb 2020 OP

Being "right" is nice; so is being a " leader" brooklynite Feb 2020 #1

LOLed at "being 'right' is nice". DanTex Feb 2020 #3

Sierra Blanca sheshe2 Feb 2020 #56

Not sure what "A conservative group's Facebook meme" has to do with this. DanTex Feb 2020 #57

Did Biden personally financially profit from it... all the way up to 2014? ehrnst Feb 2020 #102

Crickets.... ehrnst Feb 2020 #111

Bazinga! George II Feb 2020 #47

And the Magnitsky Act (92-4) and Russia Sanctions (98-2), and the FDA Bill (94-1).... George II Feb 2020 #2

No response? sheshe2 Feb 2020 #45

.... George II Feb 2020 #48

Stir, stir, stir. Squinch Feb 2020 #4

Exactly. TwilightZone Feb 2020 #6

For a moment...thought you meant BS. ;) sheshe2 Feb 2020 #49

"Stirring" by talking about Bernie's congressional voting record. Hmmm. DanTex Feb 2020 #7

As a very accomplished cook, a decent amount of stirring is a very good thing ChubbyStar Feb 2020 #12

I think it's great that you're posting - thank you. David__77 Feb 2020 #20

His record. Hm. nt sheshe2 Feb 2020 #50

Attacking another straw man. I guess they're on sale? ehrnst Feb 2020 #113

Yes, and complete opposite land. nt R B Garr Feb 2020 #9

Followed by: TexasTowelie Feb 2020 #31

Great tune!! WA-03 Democrat Feb 2020 #103

I am unable to get on the Bernie bandwagon at this time. katmondoo Feb 2020 #5

Actually, the cool cat daddios are the ones raging against R B Garr Feb 2020 #8

What's popular in DC and what's popular among voters are different things. DanTex Feb 2020 #10

Again out of context. It's more like Twitter vs Real World. R B Garr Feb 2020 #16

Right, that Iraq War vote was totally taken out of context. Makes sense. Got it. DanTex Feb 2020 #18

Obama/Biden won two elections in 2008 and R B Garr Feb 2020 #22

Obama didn't vote for the Iraq War. Kerry and Clinton did. DanTex Feb 2020 #34

Obama/Biden. You are slamming Biden. Obama chose Biden, R B Garr Feb 2020 #46

I'm not slamming anyone. DanTex Feb 2020 #51

No offense, but the time you've taken off since being R B Garr Feb 2020 #52

Must have missed the "gap" where the Iraq War became a good idea. DanTex Feb 2020 #53

You said Democrats lost the GE because of Iraq. R B Garr Feb 2020 #54

I didn't say "because". DanTex Feb 2020 #55

Your theory doesn't hold up since Gore wasn't pure enough R B Garr Feb 2020 #58

President Gore disproves my theory? Is that what you're saying? DanTex Feb 2020 #60

Gore wasn't pure enough, either. Remember? R B Garr Feb 2020 #61

And your point is? DanTex Feb 2020 #62

Your Iraq theories have no legitimate context R B Garr Feb 2020 #63

I was a Hillary supporter, mostly because I believed the conventional wisdom that proved wrong. DanTex Feb 2020 #64

That's where it looks like your break from politics has R B Garr Feb 2020 #65

I didn't take a "break" and I'm aware of Bernie people voting Green last time. DanTex Feb 2020 #66

None of your Iraq theories have played out in the real world. They are simply newly adopted agita. R B Garr Feb 2020 #70

Huh? The theory that Dems who voted for IWR don't win GEs has been right every time. DanTex Feb 2020 #73

Huh yourself. Since you were a Hillary supporter, obviously your war on R B Garr Feb 2020 #74

It's a simple factual observation. DanTex Feb 2020 #75

This message was self-deleted by its author ehrnst Feb 2020 #76

No, it is a self-serving non sequitur, one you didn't engage in as a Hillary supporter R B Garr Feb 2020 #82

If I'm wrong, then name the pro-IWR, pro-NAFTA Dem candidate that won the presidency. DanTex Feb 2020 #85

You keep trying to conflate the GE with the Democratic primary. R B Garr Feb 2020 #87

That's right, you can't name one. Because when we nominate people like that, we lose. DanTex Feb 2020 #89

You keep trying to conflate the Democratic primaries with the GE. R B Garr Feb 2020 #90

Get back to me when you find that pro-IWR or pro-NAFTA Dem who became president. DanTex Feb 2020 #91

You have cherry picked a "concern" and obviously think those Bernie talking points R B Garr Feb 2020 #92

Still no examples. Hmmm. DanTex Feb 2020 #93

I've provided numerous "examples" of your conflating the Democratic primary with the GE, R B Garr Feb 2020 #95

"You keep trying to comingle issues." ehrnst Feb 2020 #100

Hm. Safe: proven leadership and record of accomplishment, tangible qualifications, trusted profile emmaverybo Feb 2020 #59

How did the Democratic Socialist with the huge huge crowds do in 2016? redstateblues Feb 2020 #67

In the primary, yes. Never had a chance, really, was way behind the whole time. DanTex Feb 2020 #69

He's way behind in the South. Again. Seriously, your theories don't match R B Garr Feb 2020 #71

"Betting markets" That's your source for political analysis? ehrnst Feb 2020 #80

By "safe" you mean Democrats chose one the most qualified POTUS candidates in history? ehrnst Feb 2020 #79

I doubt that being disliked by his colleagues has anything to do with his legislative record. beastie boy Feb 2020 #11

What unpopular decisions did he make that would've been best followed? That's the point of the OP. JudyM Feb 2020 #29

The OP is attacking a straw man. HRC didn't say that nobody "liked his votes." ehrnst Feb 2020 #88

No. The point of the OP is that if you don't go along with the crowd your popularity suffers. JudyM Feb 2020 #94

No. The OP is positing that it's not his personal manner that HRC is talking about, ehrnst Feb 2020 #96

You can try to spin this all you want, but you can't change Sanders' record and reputation. highplainsdem Feb 2020 #13

His reputation as an Iraq War buzzkill is rock solid. You're right, that won't change. DanTex Feb 2020 #14

Yeah, right, Sanders admitted he can be a nasty SOB because he's anti-war. highplainsdem Feb 2020 #17

And anti-DOMA, anti-NAFTA, anti-Social-Security cuts, etc. You know, he's for stuff people DanTex Feb 2020 #19

And anti-Brady bill, five times. Still, how is his anti-ness on those later votes responsible for highplainsdem Feb 2020 #21

Yes, even back in the 90s his principledness annoyed some people. DanTex Feb 2020 #25

Straw man... HRC didn't talk about his position on the issues or his principles ehrnst Feb 2020 #99

Saddam, Putin, Castro, Chavez/Maduro, Ortega, Qadhafi, Morales... OneMoreCupOfCoffee Feb 2020 #24

LOL. Are you arguing that the Iraq War was a good idea? DanTex Feb 2020 #26

No. I'm arguing that Sanders has a pretty poor record on standing against dictators. OneMoreCupOfCoffee Feb 2020 #27

Like...not wanting to overthrow Saddam? You disagree with him on that? DanTex Feb 2020 #28

Like having articles on his website touting Chavez-Maduro Venezuela and OneMoreCupOfCoffee Feb 2020 #33

I still don't get why you listed Saddam there. You think Bernie was Saddam-friendly DanTex Feb 2020 #37

Which dictator has Bernie stood up against? OneMoreCupOfCoffee Feb 2020 #38

So "standing against" Saddam means voting to go to war against Iraq? DanTex Feb 2020 #39

You evaded the question. OneMoreCupOfCoffee Feb 2020 #40

Umm, you brought up Saddam. If you think voting against IWR was a mistake because it was DanTex Feb 2020 #41

No, I brought up a pattern. A pattern you seem unwilling to address. OneMoreCupOfCoffee Feb 2020 #42

LOL. A pattern that started with "Saddam." Good luck with that. DanTex Feb 2020 #43

No. A lifelong pattern. OneMoreCupOfCoffee Feb 2020 #44

"Pattern?" 1999: Aide to Rep. Bernie Sanders Resigns Over War ehrnst Feb 2020 #86

Well, he did vote for the AUMF, didn't he? ehrnst Feb 2020 #81

So why weren't people "annoyed" with Paul Wellstone? ehrnst Feb 2020 #98

Worst OP of the weekend. Very silly. nt UniteFightBack Feb 2020 #15

Typical of the OP redstateblues Feb 2020 #68

DOMA and Iraq war are totally valid issues to consider. David__77 Feb 2020 #23

How about the 2001 AUMF? TwilightZone Feb 2020 #32

Sure - absolutely. David__77 Feb 2020 #35

There's plenty to attack Bernie on. Buzz cook Feb 2020 #30

The ability or lack thereof to work with others to get things done should be a consideration. TwilightZone Feb 2020 #36

if that were an accurate assessment Buzz cook Feb 2020 #72

I agree with O'Malley Gothmog Feb 2020 #77

Could someone explain how sanders' magical voter revolution works? Gothmog Feb 2020 #78

Without a magic voter revolution, sanders will need support from other people to get platform adopte Gothmog Feb 2020 #83

Attacking a straw man yet again... ehrnst Feb 2020 #84

So how how you think Paul Wellstone managed to be universally loved and be that far to the Left? ehrnst Feb 2020 #97

You don't seem to be undecided. grossproffit Feb 2020 #101

A weak socialist candidate like sanders can not defeat trump Gothmog Feb 2020 #104

He doesn't have to wish them Happy Birthday. Just get along enough to get things done. Obvious emmaverybo Feb 2020 #105

He doesn't get along, and he doesn't get things done. empedocles Feb 2020 #106

Thumbs up. In a nutshell. emmaverybo Feb 2020 #107

Nutstshell needs to include 'Trotskyite Socialist' - 'cons would have a ball. empedocles Feb 2020 #108

Cons are set to go on the communist/socialist theme. They are salivating at the prospect. And emmaverybo Feb 2020 #109

In the real world, socialism polls poorly Gothmog Feb 2020 #110

I dig your melodramatic narrative LanternWaste Feb 2020 #112