Democratic Primaries

Mike 03

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43. I appreciate your response.

Mon Feb 3, 2020, 08:17 AM

Feb 2020

Yep, I'm scared of that too. Sometimes erring on the side of "caution" leads to disaster. Fear is never the right basis for action, but I'm just being totally and completely honest. I'm not in the least bit proud to admit "fear" is a motivating factor in my decisions.

It's very hard sometimes to see things objectively when you're in the middle of it. My first real brush with politics was being a precinct captain for the Dukakis campaign. I was really young and not that knowledgeable about how politics worked or how Dukakis came across to most Americans. My heart was broken when he lost. (EDIT: My point being, I apparently deluded myself about my candidate's chances of winning in that political environment.)

This situation we're in: I just can't compare it to anything I've been through before. Maybe there's some precedent for this in American history, but it's unknown to me.

I know one thing: I can get enthusiastic about whoever our nominee turns out to be. We had/have tremendous candidates. I even think I could recapture that love I had for Bernie in 2016. But dammit, I can't take four more years of Trump.

Hopefully, things will come clear and we'll get "an answer" by Super Tuesday or soon thereafter.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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What the actual hell is with this Bloomberg love? [View all] Kentonio Feb 2020 OP

Here ? Or nationally ? CentralMass Feb 2020 #1

Here. Kentonio Feb 2020 #2

I think that the Bernie haters are just stirring the pot. CentralMass Feb 2020 #4

Yep. nt Quixote1818 Feb 2020 #83

Post removed Post removed Feb 2020 #48

Just shows you Bernie is surging and Joe is faltering... Feelin the Bern baby!! InAbLuEsTaTe Feb 2020 #127

I don't get it either. No billionaires Amishman Feb 2020 #3

Yep. Literally For Sale. JudyM Feb 2020 #63

Yep This exactly Apple Fritter Feb 2020 #181

There is a likely theory that he entered to SPEND $$$$ alittlelark Feb 2020 #5

I thought that too initially, and it might still be the case Kentonio Feb 2020 #11

The answer is simple, he guarantees we defeat Trump I_M_Blue_2 Feb 2020 #75

So if I'm understanding you he's in the race to take out Bernie? Autumn Feb 2020 #81

He has already taken votes from Biden. nt Doremus Feb 2020 #121

Yes he has. If people are happy Bloom is in it to take votes from Bernie they will be disappointed. Autumn Feb 2020 #122

if he just wants to spend $$$ to ... Trueblue Texan Feb 2020 #49

Trump is terrified of Bloomberg $$$$$$$$ alittlelark Feb 2020 #54

what? you want him to spend to divide the party? getagrip_already Feb 2020 #55

You don't see him dividing the party the way he's doing it... JudyM Feb 2020 #65

absolutely not - he is merely running a campaign focussing on trump..... getagrip_already Feb 2020 #71

There are plenty of people that see Bernie as dividing the party. TexasTowelie Feb 2020 #179

Bloomberg bdamomma Feb 2020 #187

So what happens after the convention when he is no longer a candidate? MichMan Feb 2020 #191

Dunno, but he will focus keeping his $$$$ alittlelark Feb 2020 #193

Yes because whistler162 Feb 2020 #6

+1 -K&R onetexan Feb 2020 #15

Really? woundedkarma Feb 2020 #38

Thanks for the Great Post McKim Feb 2020 #47

I wish people who need the Government voted for the Government I_M_Blue_2 Feb 2020 #80

So many people have given up. Checked out. redqueen Feb 2020 #96

This message was self-deleted by its author JudyM Feb 2020 #67

⬆️ THIS JudyM Feb 2020 #69

Ah! I love it when Sanders supporters tell us how ignorant Squinch Feb 2020 #141

I said nothing of the sort, but it seems you just did. JudyM Feb 2020 #145

Yep. You did. Squinch Feb 2020 #146

Lol ok whatever you say, dear. JudyM Feb 2020 #148

I KNOW it makes ME angry. dchill Feb 2020 #102

Why hasnt bernie done anything about all that? He's had 30 years. Squinch Feb 2020 #143

Taking your argument just a step further Algernon Moncrieff Feb 2020 #184

In my circle of lifelong NY area Democrats, I don't know one Bernie supporter and... Mars and Minerva Feb 2020 #46

I have no love for Bloomberg. denem Feb 2020 #7

Well said...although you have to appreciate the help with guns and the mid terms. Demsrule86 Feb 2020 #160

This message was self-deleted by its author tirebiter Feb 2020 #8

I WOULD love to see a debate between Bloomberg & Trump though oldsoftie Feb 2020 #9

To be honest, as long as its not a candidates debate I'd love to see that too. Kentonio Feb 2020 #20

And the best comeback is whistler162 Feb 2020 #24

Yes I heard this rumor elsewhere and signed in to see for myself! m-lekktor Feb 2020 #10

No, Sanders is on the wrong side of history. OneMoreCupOfCoffee Feb 2020 #74

Bloomberg can beat tRump, easily. Sanders would lose in a landslide. stopbush Feb 2020 #12

Your username is more than a little ironic, considering who you now support. Kentonio Feb 2020 #14

Not ironic. I've just been around DU since pretty much Day One. stopbush Feb 2020 #19

So you don't even have that as an excuse for why you're now supporting a guy who endorsed Bush in 04 Kentonio Feb 2020 #21

I will never support a guy who deigns to call himself a Democrat for only 8 months out of every four stopbush Feb 2020 #23

A 'lifelong Dem' who endorsed Bush in 2004. Kentonio Feb 2020 #28

Get over it. No one cares but you. stopbush Feb 2020 #165

Great points Rorey Feb 2020 #86

The only important thing is Bloomberg is guaranteed to beat Trump I_M_Blue_2 Feb 2020 #84

So uh, Anaxamander Feb 2020 #176

+1 -K&R the one w the positive message onetexan Feb 2020 #16

I'm with Bernie. James48 Feb 2020 #13

We have one job in this election. Beat trump. Nothing else matters. Bloomberg can, BS can't. Squinch Feb 2020 #17

Every Democratic frontrunner beats Trump in the latest CNN head to head poll Kentonio Feb 2020 #18

No, dear. I won't stop with it. BS couldn't beat Hillary (cue the violins and the Squinch Feb 2020 #22

I seem to remember getting endless lectures about how Bernie couldn't win last time Kentonio Feb 2020 #29

And she lost. And BS couldn't even beat her. Squinch Feb 2020 #134

Trump is just starting to use the Bernie is a communist/socialist crap This will really wind up his Oppaloopa Feb 2020 #30

Republicans spent 8 years throwing that stuff at Obama every day. Kentonio Feb 2020 #32

Joe McCarthy Died a Long Time Ago McKim Feb 2020 #50

Too many falsehoods to unpack them all. OneMoreCupOfCoffee Feb 2020 #78

Yeah, throwing lies is one thing, throwing the truth is another. Zolorp Feb 2020 #62

That statement about Sanders was not necessary I_M_Blue_2 Feb 2020 #97

+1 nt Kahuna7 Feb 2020 #44

A traffic cone might beat Trump. That doesn't mean it should be President. RhodeIslandOne Feb 2020 #114

And yet, one of our best and brightest DID NOT beat the fucker. nt Ferrets are Cool Feb 2020 #153

lol Bernie people are having a sad NYMinute Feb 2020 #25

Exactly. Many Dems would prefer Bloomberg if Biden Kahuna7 Feb 2020 #45

Why do we have to get a Republican to do it? RhodeIslandOne Feb 2020 #115

Why do we have to get an Independent to do it (Sanders)? stopbush Feb 2020 #167

I'm curious what your issue is with the other candidates not named Sanders. n/m RhodeIslandOne Feb 2020 #185

Overall, I don't feel they have the gravitas necessary to excite the electorate stopbush Feb 2020 #188

He's an ally Skidmore Feb 2020 #26

I think people like him because he's spending to mock Traitortrump amuse bouche Feb 2020 #27

"Don't vote for the guy I don't like." Loki Liesmith Feb 2020 #31

Anyone in our primary except Bernie! Everything helpisontheway Feb 2020 #33

Many of us share your views on Bernie. comradebillyboy Feb 2020 #87

Indeed, those poll results are shocking when you see them. Mike 03 Feb 2020 #34

Why? Kentonio Feb 2020 #36

Your third paragraph is very strong. Mike 03 Feb 2020 #37

I understand that fear, I really do. Kentonio Feb 2020 #42

I appreciate your response. Mike 03 Feb 2020 #43

Hillary was establishment at a time people wanted to shake up the establishment I_M_Blue_2 Feb 2020 #106

P.S. Mike 03 Feb 2020 #39

Why I'm Supporting Bloomberg.... reACTIONary Feb 2020 #35

Your friends who are scared of Liz and Bernie really ought to do some reading to see what this JudyM Feb 2020 #72

Bernie is no FDR by any stretch of the imagination. comradebillyboy Feb 2020 #89

Same basic orientation, sorry you can't see it. JudyM Feb 2020 #90

Yeah I do realize Bernie wants to take us back to the 30s again. comradebillyboy Feb 2020 #123

Lol, nope. It's called progressivism for a reason. JudyM Feb 2020 #125

You do know FDR was from the wealthy upper class? Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Feb 2020 #92

Who cares if he was upper class? It's policies that matter. JudyM Feb 2020 #95

Guess you don't get what I'm saying Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Feb 2020 #161

Oh yeah, not me. It's not the money, it's the policies and the underlying values. JudyM Feb 2020 #164

FDR was not a socialist.... reACTIONary Feb 2020 #109

Sanders follows the FDR model, regardless of nomenclature. Very simple and clear. JudyM Feb 2020 #110

Then Sanders should stop calling himself a socialist... reACTIONary Feb 2020 #111

I agree with you, I wish he called himself a social democrat. JudyM Feb 2020 #113

Baloney. Sanders is NOTHING like FDR. OneMoreCupOfCoffee Feb 2020 #124

Is. JudyM Feb 2020 #126

Really? Sanders is a pro-capitalist, pro-trade, anti-protectionist, internationalist-interventionist OneMoreCupOfCoffee Feb 2020 #128

Res ipsa loquitur JudyM Feb 2020 #130

LOL. The things do speak for themselves. OneMoreCupOfCoffee Feb 2020 #135

Sanders follows the examples of FDR and Dr. King. A rose by any other name would smell as sweet. JudyM Feb 2020 #139

LOL. OneMoreCupOfCoffee Feb 2020 #149

Am I? Hm, curious that you'd ask if I'm for real. JudyM Feb 2020 #150

Eisenhower was more radical than the modern day Democrat RhodeIslandOne Feb 2020 #118

Ditto. SWBTATTReg Feb 2020 #156

But what about stop & frisk??? reACTIONary Feb 2020 #40

Primary voters tend to be more politically engaged Kentonio Feb 2020 #41

The title of this OP says a lot... brooklynite Feb 2020 #51

Exactly. LongtimeAZDem Feb 2020 #59

you... myohmy2 Feb 2020 #52

It could be because Sanders berned a lot of bridges over the past five years. Zolorp Feb 2020 #53

People like the next new thing Recursion Feb 2020 #56

I am a big Warren fan, but Bloomberg can win. AJT Feb 2020 #57

blank... myohmy2 Feb 2020 #60

Please read this article and tell me what you think... CTyankee Feb 2020 #64

Did you watch Michael Bloomberg's full DNC speech I_M_Blue_2 Feb 2020 #116

No. Do you have a link to it? CTyankee Feb 2020 #157

Link is at bottom of article; I_M_Blue_2 Feb 2020 #159

He is an outspoken billionaire, that's all. nt doc03 Feb 2020 #58

"BUT HES NOT EVEN A DEMOCRAT" Act_of_Reparation Feb 2020 #61

Because he is the only one people are seeing in most of the country.. Peacetrain Feb 2020 #66

I don't know if sarisataka Feb 2020 #68

There are those of us who do not want to take any kind of chance I_M_Blue_2 Feb 2020 #120

Do you think a Democrat cannot defeat Trump? sarisataka Feb 2020 #133

No I think Biden can beat Trump and I hope he is the nominee...but Sander no...he Demsrule86 Feb 2020 #173

I don't like that Bloomberg endorsed Bush, but I like that Bernie called for Obama to be primaried LongtimeAZDem Feb 2020 #70

Oh, the horror. JudyM Feb 2020 #98

No double standard; I stated a preference. LongtimeAZDem Feb 2020 #99

Your preference is that Obama shouldn't have been vetted? JudyM Feb 2020 #100

He was a sitting Democratic President; are you serious? LongtimeAZDem Feb 2020 #101

Plenty of Dems were upset at the administration's proposals to cut social security and leave shrub's JudyM Feb 2020 #107

This message was self-deleted by its author LongtimeAZDem Feb 2020 #117

Almost nobody here is actually supporting Bloomberg. MineralMan Feb 2020 #73

Probably not supported by DU Dems ecstatic Feb 2020 #76

I am new here, what is stop and frisk? I_M_Blue_2 Feb 2020 #132

If he's the nominee JustAnotherGen Feb 2020 #77

I don't get it either. Autumn Feb 2020 #79

I am not convinced people here really like him. Bloomberg is one of the least popular Quixote1818 Feb 2020 #82

In my case, at least, you are completely wrong. I didn't vote to "stick it to Sanders even though LongtimeAZDem Feb 2020 #94

Aligning with greens is an alliance that could save the election if he's the candidate. We ignore JudyM Feb 2020 #108

No, aligning with the Greens is political suicide. It's time to stop catering to the petulant and LongtimeAZDem Feb 2020 #129

You don't think it would help us if the greens opposed us less? If they were able to make less JudyM Feb 2020 #136

They demonstrated unequivocally last time that they cannot be relied upon for support; pandering to LongtimeAZDem Feb 2020 #137

There was huge opposition last time, and a migration to them. That's what we need to learn from JudyM Feb 2020 #142

There are only 2 parties with any chance of winning the election for President I_M_Blue_2 Feb 2020 #151

Exactly. JudyM Feb 2020 #154

I know nothing about them I_M_Blue_2 Feb 2020 #158

If we can't form an alliance, we can still have major climate action in our platform so that their JudyM Feb 2020 #162

Really? You are thinking the greens will save the day for us? They won't. Squinch Feb 2020 #131

Right. Because its all about Bernie. People couldn't possibly be Squinch Feb 2020 #147

Why is it a bad thing that Bloomberg is attacking Trump every day using his own money? dalton99a Feb 2020 #85

Yes. I prefer him to the candidate who is spreading lies Squinch Feb 2020 #105

He would be an infinitely better president than Trump and would largely govern.... DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2020 #88

He might even be able to get his program thru Congress N/T I_M_Blue_2 Feb 2020 #144

It isn't "Bloomberg love" so much as skepticism about Sanders, as I explained in a reply in that highplainsdem Feb 2020 #91

It's an all new Democratic party! redqueen Feb 2020 #93

for me it Nikki28 Feb 2020 #103

If the choice is between sanders who would be killed by trump and Bloomberg, I go with Bloomberg Gothmog Feb 2020 #104

All Trump has to do is mention Bloomberg's record booley Feb 2020 #166

You are wrong yet again Gothmog Feb 2020 #168

No good centrist candidates booley Feb 2020 #169

I fear that a very weak candidate like sanders would kill down ballot candidates Gothmog Feb 2020 #175

I'm confused as well RhodeIslandOne Feb 2020 #112

It's possible Bloomberg got in the race not to try to buy the election, Enoki33 Feb 2020 #119

Vote your heart in the primary, vote the party in the general. As a Bernie supporter, will you chia Feb 2020 #138

This message was self-deleted by its author RandiFan1290 Feb 2020 #140

In my lowly opinion, it's more than one thing Ferrets are Cool Feb 2020 #152

Bloomberg Progress_Dem Feb 2020 #155

Bloomberg doesn't have the baggage Awsi Dooger Feb 2020 #163

While I think Biden will do better than you estimate, your analysis is excellent LongtimeAZDem Feb 2020 #170

I don't love him, but I love... Mike Nelson Feb 2020 #171

Sanders has had 5+ years to explain how he would pay for his programs, stopbush Feb 2020 #172

I like Mike. JohnnyRingo Feb 2020 #174

I LOVE DEMOCRATIC PARTY CANDIDATE MICHAEL BLOOMBERG!!! Amimnoch Feb 2020 #177

Support the candidate dbinfla Feb 2020 #178

I like mike Bloomberg and I appreciate what he's doing to underthematrix Feb 2020 #180

Former Biden advisor: Socialism 'has no chance of beating Trump in 2020' Gothmog Feb 2020 #182

I don't support MB, but here is (I think) the theory Algernon Moncrieff Feb 2020 #183

I think it's an experiment The Mouth Feb 2020 #186

He's a member of the plutocracy with a conservative news outlet Warpy Feb 2020 #189

Steve Schmidt warns that the sociopath will beat the socialist. Gothmog Feb 2020 #190

Well... Tweedy Feb 2020 #192

Sounds like you're mad bro. UniteFightBack Feb 2020 #194

This message was self-deleted by its author geralmar Feb 2020 #195