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olegramps

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67. I stongly agree with what you say and have expressed the same thought.
Mon Feb 3, 2020, 03:44 PM
Feb 2020

My thinking was including those who are Independents and lean strongly Democrat who could be affected. I also believe that not every registered Democrat is as fully committed as those on this board. I believe that it also more true that Republicans will vote the party line regardless and are more monolithic that Democrats. Like to old saying: Herding Democrats is like trying to herd cats.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided

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Real Democrats? None LongtimeAZDem Feb 2020 #1
+1 Squinch Feb 2020 #2
+2 SCantiGOP Feb 2020 #6
This message was self-deleted by its author jcmaine72 Feb 2020 #134
Respecfully, do Democrats approve of Trump's trade policies and tariffs? olegramps Feb 2020 #5
We will absolutely lose MontanaMama Feb 2020 #41
Michigan and Wisconsin Mad cow Feb 2020 #85
That was three years of Trump ago LongtimeAZDem Feb 2020 #92
Listen to the first 15 minutes of this MontanaMama Feb 2020 #110
Rick Wilson? Mad cow Feb 2020 #120
To each their own but know that Wilson isn't an ordinary pundit. MontanaMama Feb 2020 #122
My point is... Mad cow Feb 2020 #123
We will absolutely win Progress_Dem Feb 2020 #127
But a candidate has to win a primary in order to be the nominee. ehrnst Feb 2020 #166
Message auto-removed Name removed Feb 2020 #170
Like I said, after the primaries, the GOP will open fire ehrnst Feb 2020 #171
Message auto-removed Name removed Feb 2020 #172
Well, that one didn't last long! PatSeg Feb 2020 #173
PA is a no go in the GE for Sanders and .Mayor Pete. Butterflylady Feb 2020 #155
Many can not fathom just how dirty the Republicans can get. They have hundreds of Atwaters. olegramps Feb 2020 #159
Lots of long time Dems are tweeting the "#NeverBernie" hashtag Zolorp Feb 2020 #62
I find myself paraphrasing Isaac Asimov's Three Laws of Robotics: LongtimeAZDem Feb 2020 #68
Bravenak started the NeverBernie hashtag, lol. octoberlib Feb 2020 #75
I don't know who that is. Zolorp Feb 2020 #76
She used to post on here a lot. Writes for Wonkette now. octoberlib Feb 2020 #80
She was an outspoken DUer who was, to be honest, calimary Feb 2020 #81
She's a banned antisemitic troll who pretended to support a candidate but really didn't and is Autumn Feb 2020 #84
Didn't know she was antisemitic JudyM Feb 2020 #95
She joined another site and was banned for an antisemitic screed she wrote. Autumn Feb 2020 #115
Did we ever find out who mailed the threatening letters? SMC22307 Feb 2020 #145
Bravenak is Awesome.. she didn't like BS, though, so Cha Feb 2020 #104
Those who lived regretted it. William769 Feb 2020 #130
Aloha, William! Cha Feb 2020 #132
LOL She's laughed at, not feared. SMC22307 Feb 2020 #146
She's a joke. Just like her Twitter followers. Autumn Feb 2020 #149
She was awesome...I miss her. Demsrule86 Feb 2020 #137
You're not missing much, trust me. SMC22307 Feb 2020 #144
+3 zackymilly Feb 2020 #117
+4 jcmaine72 Feb 2020 #135
+3 Raster Feb 2020 #153
Democrats know how important it is to get this man out of office . . . Iliyah Feb 2020 #3
No actual democrat should stay home squirecam Feb 2020 #4
I would never threaten to stay home, what about some others is the question who are not committed? olegramps Feb 2020 #8
If one isn't a democrat squirecam Feb 2020 #11
I think it would be wise to consider what the Independents will do. olegramps Feb 2020 #160
Some self professed Dems will stay home regardless who is the nominee. Kaleva Feb 2020 #36
Well, they had MyOwnPeace Feb 2020 #102
None. Bernie can get a lot of the voters who previously stayed home or went to Trump. Autumn Feb 2020 #7
The election will be decided by Independents, not by either Republicans or Dems. olegramps Feb 2020 #13
And a lot of Independents will go to Bernie, he has been very strong with them in the past. Autumn Feb 2020 #20
Which Independents are those? brooklynite Feb 2020 #55
I hear that same canard EVERY election. Zolorp Feb 2020 #15
He got close to 50% of Independents in NH the last time and was strong with Independents elsewhere. Autumn Feb 2020 #35
Where are the non-voters? Zolorp Feb 2020 #37
The Iowa caucus just started today so we don't know they are nowhere to be found do we? Autumn Feb 2020 #54
EVERY Canndidate says they will bring out the non voters in droves. Zolorp Feb 2020 #56
A lot of voters sat out the last election I don't believe they will this time. Trump is a known Autumn Feb 2020 #64
He was a known entity last time. TwilightZone Feb 2020 #69
He was a known entity to many but not all. nt Autumn Feb 2020 #72
I hope to God they don't do it again this time. calimary Feb 2020 #112
Or to the Greens. JudyM Feb 2020 #17
traditionally, only Sanders-style 'dems' sit out elections. wyldwolf Feb 2020 #9
Not true.How many HRC voters supported Obama? Champion Jack Feb 2020 #10
NEarly all. Zolorp Feb 2020 #18
Thats the inverse of the stats I have read dualboy24 Feb 2020 #42
You are entitled to an opinion but not to your own facts. Autumn Feb 2020 #71
nope Champion Jack Feb 2020 #124
"sitting out" doesn't equate to voting for someone else. wyldwolf Feb 2020 #22
If this is true, then the most logical thing to do would be to make him the nominee. JudyM Feb 2020 #21
we lose either way. But I'd rather not lose as a hostage wyldwolf Feb 2020 #24
Simple math. We win more votes w/Sanders if your statements about who defects is correct. JudyM Feb 2020 #27
that isn't simple math, it's fuzzy math wyldwolf Feb 2020 #39
He gets more of the independent vote. That's why he does better in open primaries. JudyM Feb 2020 #43
He does very well with independents. JudyM Feb 2020 #86
That's not true and you know it. nt Autumn Feb 2020 #50
Or vote for ******* trump or Liar Stein Cha Feb 2020 #103
A lot. TexasTowelie Feb 2020 #12
So have I. Zolorp Feb 2020 #19
If Sanders wins the nomination and Bloomberg runs third party, we are in serious trouble Polybius Feb 2020 #46
Yes, but with Sanders as the nominee, you may actually see nobody get 270 Electoral Votes Zolorp Feb 2020 #47
"communist affiliations"??? choie Feb 2020 #114
Yes, Communist affiliations to which he ADMITTED in a 1988 interview. Zolorp Feb 2020 #116
One other thing Zolorp Feb 2020 #118
Do you know the difference between choie Feb 2020 #125
Do you know WTF you are talking about??? Zolorp Feb 2020 #133
If Sanders wins and Bloomberg runs third party musicblind Feb 2020 #96
I question any Dem that is going to vote Bloomberg over Sanders. Cuthbert Allgood Feb 2020 #52
I cannot question them. Zolorp Feb 2020 #119
I also know and have also spoken with numerous Democrats who won't vote for an admitted Socialist... NurseJackie Feb 2020 #23
I have also had discussions with Democrats who blame Clinton's loss of the election on Sanders. olegramps Feb 2020 #25
Clinton opposed TPP. David__77 Feb 2020 #87
It was a forced position in which she was in a deadly crossfire. olegramps Feb 2020 #150
Everybody will be together to get trump out. Democracy and the USA depends on it. rockfordfile Feb 2020 #30
Tell them that Turin_C3PO Feb 2020 #33
If I was an enthusiastic supporter of Bernie, then I would consider making that argument. TexasTowelie Feb 2020 #49
So much for "Blue no matter who" TheRealNorth Feb 2020 #83
They would be hypocrites TexasTowelie Feb 2020 #88
Lol, ok! Nt USALiberal Feb 2020 #167
I don't find anything amusing about the prospect about people not voting. YMMV. TexasTowelie Feb 2020 #168
Thankfully we won't have to worry with that scenario Watchfoxheadexplodes Feb 2020 #14
But what affect will he have on the outcome? That has many party members concerned. olegramps Feb 2020 #44
The 2020 election will be won or lost in the suburbs. DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2020 #16
+1 octoberlib Feb 2020 #78
There isn't much to add. DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2020 #90
Exactly. Think Abigail Spanberger's district in Virginia. (n/t) SMC22307 Feb 2020 #148
To go further, females comprise a majority of Democratic voters and non-voters pecosbob Feb 2020 #163
"Stay home" isn't in my vocabulary, not ever. Mike 03 Feb 2020 #26
I. will. vote. for. and. support. a. ham. sandwich. it. it. is. our. nominee. Raster Feb 2020 #28
Oh, yeah?? Well, I'll vote for a rotting fish head smoking a smelly cigar rather than Filthy Donnie! Squinch Feb 2020 #107
Sanders and stein pamdb Feb 2020 #29
You splain EXACTLY how I feel about Joe Biden... thanks. InAbLuEsTaTe Feb 2020 #34
Not me. I will vote blue, no matter who. n/t TygrBright Feb 2020 #31
I know of 3 family members who currently say they won't vote for Bernie... its very upsetting! InAbLuEsTaTe Feb 2020 #32
None will JustAnotherGen Feb 2020 #38
We Democrats will vote in Force! FarPoint Feb 2020 #40
My post was not to divide but to ask a simple question of paramount importance. olegramps Feb 2020 #53
We Dems are only 1/3 of the electorate! getagrip_already Feb 2020 #59
All votes matter bdamomma Feb 2020 #45
You may be talking about voters who say they are Dems but in truth, are not. Kaleva Feb 2020 #48
Well, would you stay home if Bernie is the nominee? GumboYaYa Feb 2020 #51
I don't believe that any member of this board would stay home. We are committed. olegramps Feb 2020 #60
wrong question..... getagrip_already Feb 2020 #57
I stongly agree with what you say and have expressed the same thought. olegramps Feb 2020 #67
Bernie's trade policies appeal strongly to the folks that lost us the last election Tiggeroshii Feb 2020 #58
the other question is how may sanders supporters will stay home of he doesnt get the nom.. samnsara Feb 2020 #61
None who are thinking clearly, given that Trump would be the alternative. If Sanders becomes our highplainsdem Feb 2020 #63
Hopefully none Salviati Feb 2020 #65
Whichever Democrats tell themselves four more years of Trump will be fine. Aaron Pereira Feb 2020 #66
While Real Democrats will turnout, trump will easily destroy a weak candidate like sanders Gothmog Feb 2020 #70
I'll vote for him but Trump will be re-elected. octoberlib Feb 2020 #73
Which state is that? Just curious. Oh, and I agree with you. :) nt Sloumeau Feb 2020 #77
North Carolina. octoberlib Feb 2020 #79
Thanks for the friendly wave. :) Sloumeau Feb 2020 #82
I agree with you octoberlib. musicblind Feb 2020 #97
may I ask which city in NC you live in? Or is that too personal? musicblind Feb 2020 #98
Charlotte.It doesn't help that the Democrats on the city council and our Dem Mayor octoberlib Feb 2020 #105
Bernie thank god is not a dem ebbie15644 Feb 2020 #74
I hope none. I'm not a fan and I hope he isn't the candidate, but The Velveteen Ocelot Feb 2020 #89
Dems won't stay home Dem4Life1102 Feb 2020 #91
No one on these forms would sit home if Sanders wins. musicblind Feb 2020 #93
Probably none, but Democrats alone won't win this election, which makes this OnDoutside Feb 2020 #94
I'm not staying home Algernon Moncrieff Feb 2020 #99
That would be a stunning display of hypocrisy. nt redqueen Feb 2020 #100
I would never stay home radical noodle Feb 2020 #101
The ones that prefer Trump over Bernie. roody Feb 2020 #106
I don't know any that will "stay home". I do know ones that won't support that ticket though. Amimnoch Feb 2020 #108
Sanders has higher favorability ratings nationally Bradical79 Feb 2020 #109
Not many at DU, but in the wider world on non-activist Dems? MH1 Feb 2020 #111
You mean the real world? HarlanPepper Feb 2020 #158
If Sanders is the nominee on the ballot MFM008 Feb 2020 #113
How many Sanders supporters will vote for IMPOTUS or 3Rd party mcar Feb 2020 #121
None if they give a damn about our country budkin Feb 2020 #126
There will be some no matter who gets the nomination. It will be difficult for me doc03 Feb 2020 #128
I loathe the man ... nolawarlock Feb 2020 #129
The black vote will be jeopardized if Sanders is the candidate, and we lose if that happens. stopbush Feb 2020 #131
What about if Bloomberg is the candidate? flamingdem Feb 2020 #140
I would crawl over broken glass to vote against Trump. Happy Hoosier Feb 2020 #136
The answer to that should be: NO ONE. I'll have to hold my nose, but Iwill vote for him Vivienne235729 Feb 2020 #138
None with brains ibegurpard Feb 2020 #139
I will vote with anyone with the D next to their name gollygee Feb 2020 #141
I'll hold my nose and pull the lever for BS, dware Feb 2020 #142
It would be the unhappiest ballot I've ever cast Codeine Feb 2020 #143
I hate to say this but I really feel like Bernie's objective is to split the vote. tavernier Feb 2020 #147
I won't lisa58 Feb 2020 #151
Not me dubyadiprecession Feb 2020 #152
it will be a vote against Trump for me... not BS. berksdem Feb 2020 #154
I hope none will. I'll hold my nose and vote for BS. highplainsdem Feb 2020 #156
If you can't stand Trump & care about our country, staying or voting 3rd party is... WePurrsevere Feb 2020 #157
Pick the best nominee for the position Tweedy Feb 2020 #161
I'll show up and vote for him Blue_Tires Feb 2020 #162
He doesn't talk about the payroll tax for his pipe dreams, R B Garr Feb 2020 #164
Anyone that would not vote for the Dem nominee is by definition not a Dem pecosbob Feb 2020 #165
If we lose with Bernie in November I'm going to remind a lot of people about this thread Kentonio Feb 2020 #169
Not Democrats I'm worried about Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Feb 2020 #174
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