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Zolorp

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116. Yes, Communist affiliations to which he ADMITTED in a 1988 interview.

Mon Feb 3, 2020, 06:50 PM

Feb 2020

In 1980, he was listed on the Vermont STATEWIDE BALLOT as an Elector for the Socialist Workers Party Presidential candidate.

The SWP is a Communist Party which is where the group that was thrown out of the Communist League of America (later, Communist Party United States of America) for supporting Trotsky over Stalin ended up calling themselves.

Bernie Sanders was an ACTUAL COMMUNIST on the Vermont ballot in 1980 at the age of 39. The candidate for whom he was running as an elector sided with Iran during the hostage crisis and sided with the Soviet Union throughout the Cold War.

If you choose to complain about this and claim Sanders was not "really" a Communist then, you have no grounds to stand upon to claim he is a Democrat today.

Look it up. This is real Bernie Sanders baggage that is not widely known, especially among his supporters.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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How many Democrats will stay home if Sanders wins the nomination? [View all] olegramps Feb 2020 OP

Real Democrats? None LongtimeAZDem Feb 2020 #1

+1 Squinch Feb 2020 #2

+2 SCantiGOP Feb 2020 #6

This message was self-deleted by its author jcmaine72 Feb 2020 #134

Respecfully, do Democrats approve of Trump's trade policies and tariffs? olegramps Feb 2020 #5

We will absolutely lose MontanaMama Feb 2020 #41

Michigan and Wisconsin Mad cow Feb 2020 #85

That was three years of Trump ago LongtimeAZDem Feb 2020 #92

Listen to the first 15 minutes of this MontanaMama Feb 2020 #110

Rick Wilson? Mad cow Feb 2020 #120

To each their own but know that Wilson isn't an ordinary pundit. MontanaMama Feb 2020 #122

My point is... Mad cow Feb 2020 #123

We will absolutely win Progress_Dem Feb 2020 #127

But a candidate has to win a primary in order to be the nominee. ehrnst Feb 2020 #166

Message auto-removed Name removed Feb 2020 #170

Like I said, after the primaries, the GOP will open fire ehrnst Feb 2020 #171

Message auto-removed Name removed Feb 2020 #172

Well, that one didn't last long! PatSeg Feb 2020 #173

PA is a no go in the GE for Sanders and .Mayor Pete. Butterflylady Feb 2020 #155

Many can not fathom just how dirty the Republicans can get. They have hundreds of Atwaters. olegramps Feb 2020 #159

Lots of long time Dems are tweeting the "#NeverBernie" hashtag Zolorp Feb 2020 #62

I find myself paraphrasing Isaac Asimov's Three Laws of Robotics: LongtimeAZDem Feb 2020 #68

Bravenak started the NeverBernie hashtag, lol. octoberlib Feb 2020 #75

I don't know who that is. Zolorp Feb 2020 #76

She used to post on here a lot. Writes for Wonkette now. octoberlib Feb 2020 #80

She was an outspoken DUer who was, to be honest, calimary Feb 2020 #81

She's a banned antisemitic troll who pretended to support a candidate but really didn't and is Autumn Feb 2020 #84

Didn't know she was antisemitic JudyM Feb 2020 #95

She joined another site and was banned for an antisemitic screed she wrote. Autumn Feb 2020 #115

Did we ever find out who mailed the threatening letters? SMC22307 Feb 2020 #145

Bravenak is Awesome.. she didn't like BS, though, so Cha Feb 2020 #104

Those who lived regretted it. William769 Feb 2020 #130

Aloha, William! Cha Feb 2020 #132

LOL She's laughed at, not feared. SMC22307 Feb 2020 #146

She's a joke. Just like her Twitter followers. Autumn Feb 2020 #149

She was awesome...I miss her. Demsrule86 Feb 2020 #137

You're not missing much, trust me. SMC22307 Feb 2020 #144

+3 zackymilly Feb 2020 #117

+4 jcmaine72 Feb 2020 #135

+3 Raster Feb 2020 #153

Democrats know how important it is to get this man out of office . . . Iliyah Feb 2020 #3

No actual democrat should stay home squirecam Feb 2020 #4

I would never threaten to stay home, what about some others is the question who are not committed? olegramps Feb 2020 #8

If one isn't a democrat squirecam Feb 2020 #11

I think it would be wise to consider what the Independents will do. olegramps Feb 2020 #160

Some self professed Dems will stay home regardless who is the nominee. Kaleva Feb 2020 #36

Well, they had MyOwnPeace Feb 2020 #102

None. Bernie can get a lot of the voters who previously stayed home or went to Trump. Autumn Feb 2020 #7

The election will be decided by Independents, not by either Republicans or Dems. olegramps Feb 2020 #13

And a lot of Independents will go to Bernie, he has been very strong with them in the past. Autumn Feb 2020 #20

Which Independents are those? brooklynite Feb 2020 #55

I hear that same canard EVERY election. Zolorp Feb 2020 #15

He got close to 50% of Independents in NH the last time and was strong with Independents elsewhere. Autumn Feb 2020 #35

Where are the non-voters? Zolorp Feb 2020 #37

The Iowa caucus just started today so we don't know they are nowhere to be found do we? Autumn Feb 2020 #54

EVERY Canndidate says they will bring out the non voters in droves. Zolorp Feb 2020 #56

A lot of voters sat out the last election I don't believe they will this time. Trump is a known Autumn Feb 2020 #64

He was a known entity last time. TwilightZone Feb 2020 #69

He was a known entity to many but not all. nt Autumn Feb 2020 #72

I hope to God they don't do it again this time. calimary Feb 2020 #112

Or to the Greens. JudyM Feb 2020 #17

traditionally, only Sanders-style 'dems' sit out elections. wyldwolf Feb 2020 #9

Not true.How many HRC voters supported Obama? Champion Jack Feb 2020 #10

NEarly all. Zolorp Feb 2020 #18

Thats the inverse of the stats I have read dualboy24 Feb 2020 #42

You are entitled to an opinion but not to your own facts. Autumn Feb 2020 #71

nope Champion Jack Feb 2020 #124

"sitting out" doesn't equate to voting for someone else. wyldwolf Feb 2020 #22

If this is true, then the most logical thing to do would be to make him the nominee. JudyM Feb 2020 #21

we lose either way. But I'd rather not lose as a hostage wyldwolf Feb 2020 #24

Simple math. We win more votes w/Sanders if your statements about who defects is correct. JudyM Feb 2020 #27

that isn't simple math, it's fuzzy math wyldwolf Feb 2020 #39

He gets more of the independent vote. That's why he does better in open primaries. JudyM Feb 2020 #43

He does very well with independents. JudyM Feb 2020 #86

That's not true and you know it. nt Autumn Feb 2020 #50

Or vote for ******* trump or Liar Stein Cha Feb 2020 #103

A lot. TexasTowelie Feb 2020 #12

So have I. Zolorp Feb 2020 #19

If Sanders wins the nomination and Bloomberg runs third party, we are in serious trouble Polybius Feb 2020 #46

Yes, but with Sanders as the nominee, you may actually see nobody get 270 Electoral Votes Zolorp Feb 2020 #47

"communist affiliations"??? choie Feb 2020 #114

Yes, Communist affiliations to which he ADMITTED in a 1988 interview. Zolorp Feb 2020 #116

One other thing Zolorp Feb 2020 #118

Do you know the difference between choie Feb 2020 #125

Do you know WTF you are talking about??? Zolorp Feb 2020 #133

If Sanders wins and Bloomberg runs third party musicblind Feb 2020 #96

I question any Dem that is going to vote Bloomberg over Sanders. Cuthbert Allgood Feb 2020 #52

I cannot question them. Zolorp Feb 2020 #119

I also know and have also spoken with numerous Democrats who won't vote for an admitted Socialist... NurseJackie Feb 2020 #23

I have also had discussions with Democrats who blame Clinton's loss of the election on Sanders. olegramps Feb 2020 #25

Clinton opposed TPP. David__77 Feb 2020 #87

It was a forced position in which she was in a deadly crossfire. olegramps Feb 2020 #150

Everybody will be together to get trump out. Democracy and the USA depends on it. rockfordfile Feb 2020 #30

Tell them that Turin_C3PO Feb 2020 #33

If I was an enthusiastic supporter of Bernie, then I would consider making that argument. TexasTowelie Feb 2020 #49

So much for "Blue no matter who" TheRealNorth Feb 2020 #83

They would be hypocrites TexasTowelie Feb 2020 #88

Lol, ok! Nt USALiberal Feb 2020 #167

I don't find anything amusing about the prospect about people not voting. YMMV. TexasTowelie Feb 2020 #168

Thankfully we won't have to worry with that scenario Watchfoxheadexplodes Feb 2020 #14

But what affect will he have on the outcome? That has many party members concerned. olegramps Feb 2020 #44

The 2020 election will be won or lost in the suburbs. DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2020 #16

+1 octoberlib Feb 2020 #78

There isn't much to add. DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2020 #90

Exactly. Think Abigail Spanberger's district in Virginia. (n/t) SMC22307 Feb 2020 #148

To go further, females comprise a majority of Democratic voters and non-voters pecosbob Feb 2020 #163

"Stay home" isn't in my vocabulary, not ever. Mike 03 Feb 2020 #26

I. will. vote. for. and. support. a. ham. sandwich. it. it. is. our. nominee. Raster Feb 2020 #28

Oh, yeah?? Well, I'll vote for a rotting fish head smoking a smelly cigar rather than Filthy Donnie! Squinch Feb 2020 #107

Sanders and stein pamdb Feb 2020 #29

You splain EXACTLY how I feel about Joe Biden... thanks. InAbLuEsTaTe Feb 2020 #34

Not me. I will vote blue, no matter who. n/t TygrBright Feb 2020 #31

I know of 3 family members who currently say they won't vote for Bernie... its very upsetting! InAbLuEsTaTe Feb 2020 #32

None will JustAnotherGen Feb 2020 #38

We Democrats will vote in Force! FarPoint Feb 2020 #40

My post was not to divide but to ask a simple question of paramount importance. olegramps Feb 2020 #53

We Dems are only 1/3 of the electorate! getagrip_already Feb 2020 #59

All votes matter bdamomma Feb 2020 #45

You may be talking about voters who say they are Dems but in truth, are not. Kaleva Feb 2020 #48

Well, would you stay home if Bernie is the nominee? GumboYaYa Feb 2020 #51

I don't believe that any member of this board would stay home. We are committed. olegramps Feb 2020 #60

wrong question..... getagrip_already Feb 2020 #57

I stongly agree with what you say and have expressed the same thought. olegramps Feb 2020 #67

Bernie's trade policies appeal strongly to the folks that lost us the last election Tiggeroshii Feb 2020 #58

the other question is how may sanders supporters will stay home of he doesnt get the nom.. samnsara Feb 2020 #61

None who are thinking clearly, given that Trump would be the alternative. If Sanders becomes our highplainsdem Feb 2020 #63

Hopefully none Salviati Feb 2020 #65

Whichever Democrats tell themselves four more years of Trump will be fine. Aaron Pereira Feb 2020 #66

While Real Democrats will turnout, trump will easily destroy a weak candidate like sanders Gothmog Feb 2020 #70

I'll vote for him but Trump will be re-elected. octoberlib Feb 2020 #73

Which state is that? Just curious. Oh, and I agree with you. :) nt Sloumeau Feb 2020 #77

North Carolina. octoberlib Feb 2020 #79

Thanks for the friendly wave. :) Sloumeau Feb 2020 #82

I agree with you octoberlib. musicblind Feb 2020 #97

may I ask which city in NC you live in? Or is that too personal? musicblind Feb 2020 #98

Charlotte.It doesn't help that the Democrats on the city council and our Dem Mayor octoberlib Feb 2020 #105

Bernie thank god is not a dem ebbie15644 Feb 2020 #74

I hope none. I'm not a fan and I hope he isn't the candidate, but The Velveteen Ocelot Feb 2020 #89

Dems won't stay home Dem4Life1102 Feb 2020 #91

No one on these forms would sit home if Sanders wins. musicblind Feb 2020 #93

Probably none, but Democrats alone won't win this election, which makes this OnDoutside Feb 2020 #94

I'm not staying home Algernon Moncrieff Feb 2020 #99

That would be a stunning display of hypocrisy. nt redqueen Feb 2020 #100

I would never stay home radical noodle Feb 2020 #101

The ones that prefer Trump over Bernie. roody Feb 2020 #106

I don't know any that will "stay home". I do know ones that won't support that ticket though. Amimnoch Feb 2020 #108

Sanders has higher favorability ratings nationally Bradical79 Feb 2020 #109

Not many at DU, but in the wider world on non-activist Dems? MH1 Feb 2020 #111

You mean the real world? HarlanPepper Feb 2020 #158

If Sanders is the nominee on the ballot MFM008 Feb 2020 #113

How many Sanders supporters will vote for IMPOTUS or 3Rd party mcar Feb 2020 #121

None if they give a damn about our country budkin Feb 2020 #126

There will be some no matter who gets the nomination. It will be difficult for me doc03 Feb 2020 #128

I loathe the man ... nolawarlock Feb 2020 #129

The black vote will be jeopardized if Sanders is the candidate, and we lose if that happens. stopbush Feb 2020 #131

What about if Bloomberg is the candidate? flamingdem Feb 2020 #140

I would crawl over broken glass to vote against Trump. Happy Hoosier Feb 2020 #136

The answer to that should be: NO ONE. I'll have to hold my nose, but Iwill vote for him Vivienne235729 Feb 2020 #138

None with brains ibegurpard Feb 2020 #139

I will vote with anyone with the D next to their name gollygee Feb 2020 #141

I'll hold my nose and pull the lever for BS, dware Feb 2020 #142

It would be the unhappiest ballot I've ever cast Codeine Feb 2020 #143

I hate to say this but I really feel like Bernie's objective is to split the vote. tavernier Feb 2020 #147

I won't lisa58 Feb 2020 #151

Not me dubyadiprecession Feb 2020 #152

it will be a vote against Trump for me... not BS. berksdem Feb 2020 #154

I hope none will. I'll hold my nose and vote for BS. highplainsdem Feb 2020 #156

If you can't stand Trump & care about our country, staying or voting 3rd party is... WePurrsevere Feb 2020 #157

Pick the best nominee for the position Tweedy Feb 2020 #161

I'll show up and vote for him Blue_Tires Feb 2020 #162

He doesn't talk about the payroll tax for his pipe dreams, R B Garr Feb 2020 #164

Anyone that would not vote for the Dem nominee is by definition not a Dem pecosbob Feb 2020 #165

If we lose with Bernie in November I'm going to remind a lot of people about this thread Kentonio Feb 2020 #169

Not Democrats I'm worried about Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Feb 2020 #174