Democratic Primaries

PatrynXX

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21. Like Bloomberg

Tue Feb 4, 2020, 06:04 PM

Feb 2020

however only 2 candidates for Democrats are running (Tom is not on the poltiicial compass don't know why and Bloomberg came in to late but apparently as an Oligarch paid admission to the caucuses in iowa..) Tulsi and Bernie the only left wing Democrats in the running. Warren is running as a Centrist the rest are well into right wing territory With Yang being the most right but least authoritarian. (political compass as the source) Right Wing vs Right Wing = not a good year again. I'd rather have a choice. Right and Right is no choice. Left and Right is. (and centrist) so pretty much goes Bernie, Tulsi, Tom then Warren and thats about it. Maybe Yang since he's the furthest from Trump Pete is closer though. Bennett is not longer running but was the farthest to the right

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

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Bernie Sanders is the reason Iowa went so wrong and now his supporters are handing Trump ammunition. [View all] Scurrilous Feb 2020 OP

Bernie designed the shitty, untested app? ZZenith Feb 2020 #1

In 2016 he was the one who pushed to make all the changes that were implemented this year. George II Feb 2020 #3

+++ still_one Feb 2020 #28

... Including the paper trail, no? Nt Ghost Dog Feb 2020 #97

Keep trying, but false. Jirel Feb 2020 #139

The realignment rules. ehrnst Feb 2020 #7

So someone with more supporters could end up with fewer delegates? LisaM Feb 2020 #38

Post removed Post removed Feb 2020 #12

No. The party is accountable for the caucus. David__77 Feb 2020 #14

The party made the changes based on Sanders' demands. George II Feb 2020 #17

If so, I don't think that that somehow mitigates party accountability for the caucus. David__77 Feb 2020 #62

Oh, bs DiverDave Feb 2020 #113

And Bernie's responsible for his loss LanternWaste Feb 2020 #120

Of course. David__77 Feb 2020 #123

Sanders needs to win this in a landslide. Young, white, open, rural, caucus. krissey Feb 2020 #2

We keep letting him become a Democrat for a year so he can run redstatebluegirl Feb 2020 #4

He never becomes a Democrat, though. Even when running in our primary, he does it as an Independent. krissey Feb 2020 #6

But he CALLS himself a democrat, there is a D by his name on the ballot. redstatebluegirl Feb 2020 #8

That is my point. No. He does not call himself a Democrat. Ever. We put the D there. krissey Feb 2020 #9

And we should NEVER let anyone else like him do it again. redstatebluegirl Feb 2020 #10

I do not think we should, either. Nor should we allow the Republicans to participate in our krissey Feb 2020 #19

He puts a D by his name ONLY on a primary ballot, nowhere else. ehrnst Feb 2020 #124

Like Bloomberg PatrynXX Feb 2020 #21

No. Not like Bloomberg. That just is not factually correct. But, whatever. krissey Feb 2020 #25

You're absolutely correct. Bloomberg is unique among the Democratic hopefuls in that.... jcmaine72 Feb 2020 #88

I know his history. Still not the point. You know it. krissey Feb 2020 #89

Well, if the idea was to question Bernie's credibility as a Democratic candidate.... jcmaine72 Feb 2020 #91

The "idea" is the statement Sanders isn't a Democrat, does not claim to be a Democrat, not even krissey Feb 2020 #94

The other option is running as a third party candidate in the general election. It's OK he's here. Gore1FL Feb 2020 #114

Everyone needs to go to the first statement. I was accurate. This whole subthread is about other. krissey Feb 2020 #115

Fair. I assume you are talking about post 2. Gore1FL Feb 2020 #116

Sanders: I don't consider myself a Democrat ehrnst Feb 2020 #126

Neither did Elizabeth Warren or Mike Bloomberg when they were registered Republicans jcmaine72 Feb 2020 #127

Nice goalpost move... Bernie has never once identified as a Dem other than on a primary ballot. ehrnst Feb 2020 #128

Nope. The goalposts were right where you left them. jcmaine72 Feb 2020 #130

"My own feeling is that the Democratic Party is ideologically bankrupt." ehrnst Feb 2020 #131

With fly-by-night billionaires like Bloomberg able to buy their way into our primaries jcmaine72 Feb 2020 #132

So you got nothing. ehrnst Feb 2020 #133

More than you, obviously. jcmaine72 Feb 2020 #134

The "I know you are but what am I?" reposte of last resort... ehrnst Feb 2020 #135

Putting words in my mouth doesn't constitute a "correction" of anything. jcmaine72 Feb 2020 #138

I quoted you... ehrnst Feb 2020 #140

Both Warren and Bloomberg have been Democrats longer than he has. George II Feb 2020 #136

Also neither has been promoted by Russia or the GOP as their favored Dem nominee. ehrnst Feb 2020 #137

Iowa 3.5% black Nevada 8.7% black New Hampshire 1.1% black Scurrilous Feb 2020 #16

New Hampshire 1.1% black. Yes. And rural. krissey Feb 2020 #23

Vermont 1.4% black. LOL That answers some questions... Scurrilous Feb 2020 #31

I am a numbers gal. They tell the story. Pretty basic. Almost like, 1 + 1 2. krissey Feb 2020 #34

Some people in here don't like math. Scurrilous Feb 2020 #37

Oh my god, that made me laugh, once I processed. I am old. It is taking a bit longer to go from krissey Feb 2020 #41

It's going to be a crazy election. Scurrilous Feb 2020 #52

For sure. krissey Feb 2020 #64

Math!!!! DoublePlusThoughtCrime!!!!! ehrnst Feb 2020 #75

A patrilineal trait. Math bad. When asked for numbers, respond with words. Scurrilous Feb 2020 #82

patrilineal - had to look it up. Good word but just not common. keithbvadu2 Feb 2020 #108

LOL Scurrilous Feb 2020 #119

He has gotten into trouble before when he quotes statistics or numbers... ehrnst Feb 2020 #117

Wow. I haven't seen that before. Nice link. Scurrilous Feb 2020 #122

Yes, facts are inconvenient things for certain people. ehrnst Feb 2020 #141

From the Atlantic on Monday: The Iowa Caucus Could Go Very Wrong ehrnst Feb 2020 #5

Mind boggling. Scurrilous Feb 2020 #48

Bernie's responsible for the Iowa fiasco!! Oh yeah, that's it for sure. jalan48 Feb 2020 #11

Some candidates thrive on chaos. LisaM Feb 2020 #13

It's that revolution thing. To get a true revolution, you need chaos, as Susan Sarandon Blue_true Feb 2020 #71

Bernie bought that worthless app that the IDP was warned had problems way back in mid January Autumn Feb 2020 #15

Nah, he just insisted on the realignment rules. ehrnst Feb 2020 #18

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I'm glad you cared enough to reply to tell me that you don't care. ehrnst Feb 2020 #26

Yeah and I'm glad you always look for my posts to respond to. nt Autumn Feb 2020 #32

Keep on flattering yourself. ehrnst Feb 2020 #40

I'm not flattering myself, stating a fact.I don't look for your posts and when I see your OPs Autumn Feb 2020 #47

"Polite?" ehrnst Feb 2020 #51

Yes. Polite Autumn Feb 2020 #69

..... ehrnst Feb 2020 #70

I rest my case. I've been very polite but I must say adieu because I have better things to do. Autumn Feb 2020 #74

Fish ain't biting Hon. ehrnst Feb 2020 #77

touche' Cha Feb 2020 #79

IOW, you agree. George II Feb 2020 #98

You are both right Tweedy Feb 2020 #109

how did he do that with Hillary campaigners ??? PatrynXX Feb 2020 #24

Well . Bernie done shot my dog and he done killt my Pa so the feuding gots to go on Autumn Feb 2020 #30

You found a sale on straw men... ehrnst Feb 2020 #43

People with disabilities, small children and hourly wage jobs have wanted to get rid of caucuses ehrnst Feb 2020 #33

"Mental Illnesses?" ehrnst Feb 2020 #72

If Bernie becomes president, I hope this won't get him impeached. n/t zackymilly Feb 2020 #49

Of course that won't happen! Because everyone will be so happy ehrnst Feb 2020 #53

LOL. Bernie didn't pick "Shadow Inc" to rush a poorly tested app into production DanTex Feb 2020 #22

Talking about those new rules he insisted on seem to be a sore point for some... ehrnst Feb 2020 #29

Sen. Sanders staffed Shadow Inc with a bunch of Clinton 2016 campaign staff!! Devil Child Feb 2020 #45

Sanders is absolutely devious . It's no wonder "nobody liked him" in IA lunasun Feb 2020 #83

LoL - nice story jmg257 Feb 2020 #27

A Retort. Retoot? Retweet? Scurrilous Feb 2020 #57

LOL!! Ah a great moment in cinema. jmg257 Feb 2020 #60

Yep. Scurrilous Feb 2020 #61

Bernie designed the app himself awesomerwb1 Feb 2020 #35

I stubbed my toe while rushing to answer the phone. Fucking Sanders's fault! Devil Child Feb 2020 #36

Is there a sale on straw man somewhere? ehrnst Feb 2020 #39

Yes, but they're all sold out. Fucking Sanders! Devil Child Feb 2020 #42

Oh - they were on Amazon, then? ehrnst Feb 2020 #44

I know! Bernie's Amazon presence is disqualifying! Devil Child Feb 2020 #54

Sore spot, eh? ehrnst Feb 2020 #55

Not really I ordered some meds off Amazon for it! Devil Child Feb 2020 #59

As I pointed out - you said "disqualifying," not me. ehrnst Feb 2020 #63

The "Iowa Caucus Chaos" story is expanding. Former Unity Commision oasis Feb 2020 #46

Iowa Caucus Chaos Surging! Scurrilous Feb 2020 #50

SURGE SURGE SURGE SURGE TEH SURGE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ehrnst Feb 2020 #58

Herman and the Hermits rule: 2nd verse same as the first. Scurrilous Feb 2020 #65

the logic here or lack of is astounding. :( Kurt V. Feb 2020 #56

.... ehrnst Feb 2020 #66

I think it goes deeper than that. Scurrilous Feb 2020 #84

this explains your original op. :) Kurt V. Feb 2020 #90

That place is a motherlode. Scurrilous Feb 2020 #93

Look over there at Bernie; don't pay attention to how few people support Biden... GumboYaYa Feb 2020 #67

Still leading in Average National Polls: Biden +4.5% Scurrilous Feb 2020 #73

Biden is FOURTH! Hassin Bin Sober Feb 2020 #68

4th is the new number 1. Voltaire2 Feb 2020 #86

And a post caucus reporting issue caused by a vendor failure means it doesn't count! Hassin Bin Sober Feb 2020 #87

wow..... samnsara Feb 2020 #76

Nonsensical divisiveness Tiggeroshii Feb 2020 #78

Because you say so? (nt) ehrnst Feb 2020 #81

Because labeling an entire group and baselessly blaming them for something Tiggeroshii Feb 2020 #96

But that's been the narrative all along. It's all the opposition has. Gravitycollapse Feb 2020 #100

What is sickening is how some people are willing divide us up and lose instead of Tiggeroshii Feb 2020 #105

I agree Gothmog Feb 2020 #80

wait I thought it was Putin who was responsible for all election chaos. Voltaire2 Feb 2020 #85

No, the guy who pushed for verifiable paper ballots to be counted is the bad guy! Hassin Bin Sober Feb 2020 #92

So, Iowa is now all Bernies fault? yaesu Feb 2020 #95

Translation: Our incompetence is now Bernie's fault Gravitycollapse Feb 2020 #99

tranlation #2....Biden did poorly so it must be someone else's fault - n/t Locrian Feb 2020 #101

Definitely part of it. Gravitycollapse Feb 2020 #102

then there's this... Locrian Feb 2020 #106

I am beginning to have some serious doubts about Bernie katmondoo Feb 2020 #103

Ridiculous ibegurpard Feb 2020 #104

Seriously? Yurovsky Feb 2020 #107

What is the best way to select/elect a candidate? keithbvadu2 Feb 2020 #110

figures samnsara Feb 2020 #111

Okay, now I've heard it all!! InAbLuEsTaTe Feb 2020 #112

After your faith-based prophecies of last week, I'm not surprised to see your deflection. LanternWaste Feb 2020 #121

It has been predicted last year that the changes he demanded robbedvoter Feb 2020 #118

I don't think the Sanders changes caused the Iowa mess. Politicub Feb 2020 #125

Amen. Scurrilous Feb 2020 #129

The problems came from changes demanded by sanders Gothmog Feb 2020 #142