Democratic Primaries

Gravitycollapse

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100. But that's been the narrative all along. It's all the opposition has.

Tue Feb 4, 2020, 08:34 PM

Feb 2020

They can't win on principle or policy. They realize Sanders is a threat and have to turn him into a boogieman to scare away support. Clearly, it hasn't worked.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

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Bernie Sanders is the reason Iowa went so wrong and now his supporters are handing Trump ammunition. [View all] Scurrilous Feb 2020 OP

Bernie designed the shitty, untested app? ZZenith Feb 2020 #1

In 2016 he was the one who pushed to make all the changes that were implemented this year. George II Feb 2020 #3

+++ still_one Feb 2020 #28

... Including the paper trail, no? Nt Ghost Dog Feb 2020 #97

Keep trying, but false. Jirel Feb 2020 #139

The realignment rules. ehrnst Feb 2020 #7

So someone with more supporters could end up with fewer delegates? LisaM Feb 2020 #38

Post removed Post removed Feb 2020 #12

No. The party is accountable for the caucus. David__77 Feb 2020 #14

The party made the changes based on Sanders' demands. George II Feb 2020 #17

If so, I don't think that that somehow mitigates party accountability for the caucus. David__77 Feb 2020 #62

Oh, bs DiverDave Feb 2020 #113

And Bernie's responsible for his loss LanternWaste Feb 2020 #120

Of course. David__77 Feb 2020 #123

Sanders needs to win this in a landslide. Young, white, open, rural, caucus. krissey Feb 2020 #2

We keep letting him become a Democrat for a year so he can run redstatebluegirl Feb 2020 #4

He never becomes a Democrat, though. Even when running in our primary, he does it as an Independent. krissey Feb 2020 #6

But he CALLS himself a democrat, there is a D by his name on the ballot. redstatebluegirl Feb 2020 #8

That is my point. No. He does not call himself a Democrat. Ever. We put the D there. krissey Feb 2020 #9

And we should NEVER let anyone else like him do it again. redstatebluegirl Feb 2020 #10

I do not think we should, either. Nor should we allow the Republicans to participate in our krissey Feb 2020 #19

He puts a D by his name ONLY on a primary ballot, nowhere else. ehrnst Feb 2020 #124

Like Bloomberg PatrynXX Feb 2020 #21

No. Not like Bloomberg. That just is not factually correct. But, whatever. krissey Feb 2020 #25

You're absolutely correct. Bloomberg is unique among the Democratic hopefuls in that.... jcmaine72 Feb 2020 #88

I know his history. Still not the point. You know it. krissey Feb 2020 #89

Well, if the idea was to question Bernie's credibility as a Democratic candidate.... jcmaine72 Feb 2020 #91

The "idea" is the statement Sanders isn't a Democrat, does not claim to be a Democrat, not even krissey Feb 2020 #94

The other option is running as a third party candidate in the general election. It's OK he's here. Gore1FL Feb 2020 #114

Everyone needs to go to the first statement. I was accurate. This whole subthread is about other. krissey Feb 2020 #115

Fair. I assume you are talking about post 2. Gore1FL Feb 2020 #116

Sanders: I don't consider myself a Democrat ehrnst Feb 2020 #126

Neither did Elizabeth Warren or Mike Bloomberg when they were registered Republicans jcmaine72 Feb 2020 #127

Nice goalpost move... Bernie has never once identified as a Dem other than on a primary ballot. ehrnst Feb 2020 #128

Nope. The goalposts were right where you left them. jcmaine72 Feb 2020 #130

"My own feeling is that the Democratic Party is ideologically bankrupt." ehrnst Feb 2020 #131

With fly-by-night billionaires like Bloomberg able to buy their way into our primaries jcmaine72 Feb 2020 #132

So you got nothing. ehrnst Feb 2020 #133

More than you, obviously. jcmaine72 Feb 2020 #134

The "I know you are but what am I?" reposte of last resort... ehrnst Feb 2020 #135

Putting words in my mouth doesn't constitute a "correction" of anything. jcmaine72 Feb 2020 #138

I quoted you... ehrnst Feb 2020 #140

Both Warren and Bloomberg have been Democrats longer than he has. George II Feb 2020 #136

Also neither has been promoted by Russia or the GOP as their favored Dem nominee. ehrnst Feb 2020 #137

Iowa 3.5% black Nevada 8.7% black New Hampshire 1.1% black Scurrilous Feb 2020 #16

New Hampshire 1.1% black. Yes. And rural. krissey Feb 2020 #23

Vermont 1.4% black. LOL That answers some questions... Scurrilous Feb 2020 #31

I am a numbers gal. They tell the story. Pretty basic. Almost like, 1 + 1 2. krissey Feb 2020 #34

Some people in here don't like math. Scurrilous Feb 2020 #37

Oh my god, that made me laugh, once I processed. I am old. It is taking a bit longer to go from krissey Feb 2020 #41

It's going to be a crazy election. Scurrilous Feb 2020 #52

For sure. krissey Feb 2020 #64

Math!!!! DoublePlusThoughtCrime!!!!! ehrnst Feb 2020 #75

A patrilineal trait. Math bad. When asked for numbers, respond with words. Scurrilous Feb 2020 #82

patrilineal - had to look it up. Good word but just not common. keithbvadu2 Feb 2020 #108

LOL Scurrilous Feb 2020 #119

He has gotten into trouble before when he quotes statistics or numbers... ehrnst Feb 2020 #117

Wow. I haven't seen that before. Nice link. Scurrilous Feb 2020 #122

Yes, facts are inconvenient things for certain people. ehrnst Feb 2020 #141

From the Atlantic on Monday: The Iowa Caucus Could Go Very Wrong ehrnst Feb 2020 #5

Mind boggling. Scurrilous Feb 2020 #48

Bernie's responsible for the Iowa fiasco!! Oh yeah, that's it for sure. jalan48 Feb 2020 #11

Some candidates thrive on chaos. LisaM Feb 2020 #13

It's that revolution thing. To get a true revolution, you need chaos, as Susan Sarandon Blue_true Feb 2020 #71

Bernie bought that worthless app that the IDP was warned had problems way back in mid January Autumn Feb 2020 #15

Nah, he just insisted on the realignment rules. ehrnst Feb 2020 #18

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I'm glad you cared enough to reply to tell me that you don't care. ehrnst Feb 2020 #26

Yeah and I'm glad you always look for my posts to respond to. nt Autumn Feb 2020 #32

Keep on flattering yourself. ehrnst Feb 2020 #40

I'm not flattering myself, stating a fact.I don't look for your posts and when I see your OPs Autumn Feb 2020 #47

"Polite?" ehrnst Feb 2020 #51

Yes. Polite Autumn Feb 2020 #69

..... ehrnst Feb 2020 #70

I rest my case. I've been very polite but I must say adieu because I have better things to do. Autumn Feb 2020 #74

Fish ain't biting Hon. ehrnst Feb 2020 #77

touche' Cha Feb 2020 #79

IOW, you agree. George II Feb 2020 #98

You are both right Tweedy Feb 2020 #109

how did he do that with Hillary campaigners ??? PatrynXX Feb 2020 #24

Well . Bernie done shot my dog and he done killt my Pa so the feuding gots to go on Autumn Feb 2020 #30

You found a sale on straw men... ehrnst Feb 2020 #43

People with disabilities, small children and hourly wage jobs have wanted to get rid of caucuses ehrnst Feb 2020 #33

"Mental Illnesses?" ehrnst Feb 2020 #72

If Bernie becomes president, I hope this won't get him impeached. n/t zackymilly Feb 2020 #49

Of course that won't happen! Because everyone will be so happy ehrnst Feb 2020 #53

LOL. Bernie didn't pick "Shadow Inc" to rush a poorly tested app into production DanTex Feb 2020 #22

Talking about those new rules he insisted on seem to be a sore point for some... ehrnst Feb 2020 #29

Sen. Sanders staffed Shadow Inc with a bunch of Clinton 2016 campaign staff!! Devil Child Feb 2020 #45

Sanders is absolutely devious . It's no wonder "nobody liked him" in IA lunasun Feb 2020 #83

LoL - nice story jmg257 Feb 2020 #27

A Retort. Retoot? Retweet? Scurrilous Feb 2020 #57

LOL!! Ah a great moment in cinema. jmg257 Feb 2020 #60

Yep. Scurrilous Feb 2020 #61

Bernie designed the app himself awesomerwb1 Feb 2020 #35

I stubbed my toe while rushing to answer the phone. Fucking Sanders's fault! Devil Child Feb 2020 #36

Is there a sale on straw man somewhere? ehrnst Feb 2020 #39

Yes, but they're all sold out. Fucking Sanders! Devil Child Feb 2020 #42

Oh - they were on Amazon, then? ehrnst Feb 2020 #44

I know! Bernie's Amazon presence is disqualifying! Devil Child Feb 2020 #54

Sore spot, eh? ehrnst Feb 2020 #55

Not really I ordered some meds off Amazon for it! Devil Child Feb 2020 #59

As I pointed out - you said "disqualifying," not me. ehrnst Feb 2020 #63

The "Iowa Caucus Chaos" story is expanding. Former Unity Commision oasis Feb 2020 #46

Iowa Caucus Chaos Surging! Scurrilous Feb 2020 #50

SURGE SURGE SURGE SURGE TEH SURGE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ehrnst Feb 2020 #58

Herman and the Hermits rule: 2nd verse same as the first. Scurrilous Feb 2020 #65

the logic here or lack of is astounding. :( Kurt V. Feb 2020 #56

.... ehrnst Feb 2020 #66

I think it goes deeper than that. Scurrilous Feb 2020 #84

this explains your original op. :) Kurt V. Feb 2020 #90

That place is a motherlode. Scurrilous Feb 2020 #93

Look over there at Bernie; don't pay attention to how few people support Biden... GumboYaYa Feb 2020 #67

Still leading in Average National Polls: Biden +4.5% Scurrilous Feb 2020 #73

Biden is FOURTH! Hassin Bin Sober Feb 2020 #68

4th is the new number 1. Voltaire2 Feb 2020 #86

And a post caucus reporting issue caused by a vendor failure means it doesn't count! Hassin Bin Sober Feb 2020 #87

wow..... samnsara Feb 2020 #76

Nonsensical divisiveness Tiggeroshii Feb 2020 #78

Because you say so? (nt) ehrnst Feb 2020 #81

Because labeling an entire group and baselessly blaming them for something Tiggeroshii Feb 2020 #96

But that's been the narrative all along. It's all the opposition has. Gravitycollapse Feb 2020 #100

What is sickening is how some people are willing divide us up and lose instead of Tiggeroshii Feb 2020 #105

I agree Gothmog Feb 2020 #80

wait I thought it was Putin who was responsible for all election chaos. Voltaire2 Feb 2020 #85

No, the guy who pushed for verifiable paper ballots to be counted is the bad guy! Hassin Bin Sober Feb 2020 #92

So, Iowa is now all Bernies fault? yaesu Feb 2020 #95

Translation: Our incompetence is now Bernie's fault Gravitycollapse Feb 2020 #99

tranlation #2....Biden did poorly so it must be someone else's fault - n/t Locrian Feb 2020 #101

Definitely part of it. Gravitycollapse Feb 2020 #102

then there's this... Locrian Feb 2020 #106

I am beginning to have some serious doubts about Bernie katmondoo Feb 2020 #103

Ridiculous ibegurpard Feb 2020 #104

Seriously? Yurovsky Feb 2020 #107

What is the best way to select/elect a candidate? keithbvadu2 Feb 2020 #110

figures samnsara Feb 2020 #111

Okay, now I've heard it all!! InAbLuEsTaTe Feb 2020 #112

After your faith-based prophecies of last week, I'm not surprised to see your deflection. LanternWaste Feb 2020 #121

It has been predicted last year that the changes he demanded robbedvoter Feb 2020 #118

I don't think the Sanders changes caused the Iowa mess. Politicub Feb 2020 #125

Amen. Scurrilous Feb 2020 #129

The problems came from changes demanded by sanders Gothmog Feb 2020 #142