Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News Editorials & Other Articles General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search
Joe BidenCongratulations to our presumptive Democratic nominee, Joe Biden!
 

Wrz

(35 posts)
31. It's a caucus
Wed Feb 5, 2020, 01:50 AM
Feb 2020

Caucuses are not a good judge of this. Let's wait until we have a few proper voting primaries before waving the banner of doom and gloom on turnout.

As a disabled person, I wouldn't be able to participate if my state held a caucus instead of regular ballot voting. I can barely be on my feet even leaning on a walker for more than 10 minutes at a time. I can't stand around in a school gymnasium for 2-4 hours and constantly move around. No matter how badly I want to participate I wouldn't be able to do it.

Caucuses need to go. I felt this way even before the mishap in Iowa. It's an archaic way of voting that excludes many groups of people. They are not accessible to people like me who have physical infirmities and also people who have children and/or a job that won't allow them time to stand around for hours.

Another factor is that some caucus precinct sites did not have enough chairs. I heard at some precincts Sanders supporters had to be turned away because there were no more chairs available. You don't have that problem with proper voting. And disabled people have absentee voting as an option as well so even the most infirm can still vote if it's not a caucus.

One more thing to consider is that Iowa is not very racially diverse. I think I saw one precinct that was in a mosque that had a large number of minorities. I think turnout is best measured in states that have a diverse population given minorities tend to vote blue.

Going forward, I think for Democrat primaries states with the most diverse populations should be the ones to go first in voting. Iowa most definitely should not be first -- no offense to Iowan Democrats.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden

Recommendations

0 members have recommended this reply (displayed in chronological order):

It is not . . . Iliyah Feb 2020 #1
I had thought large turnout would be the big news of the night regardless of who won 😟 lunasun Feb 2020 #2
so much for bringing out new voters....... getagrip_already Feb 2020 #3
They completely matter. former9thward Feb 2020 #27
I would think beating Sanders or Warren would have been a slam dunk then TheRealNorth Feb 2020 #28
Undecided voters who are "anything but trump" ecstatic Feb 2020 #4
That would be me. Mz Pip Feb 2020 #18
There were years with much lower turnout, and youth turnout was way up Fiendish Thingy Feb 2020 #5
Bullshit... Caucuses do not in any way equate to voter turnout in a classic election. hlthe2b Feb 2020 #6
No, but high turnout shows excitement democrattotheend Feb 2020 #7
Very clear that you did not read/comprehend my post at all. hlthe2b Feb 2020 #9
I did democrattotheend Feb 2020 #10
Again. You are equating election turnout with caucus turnout. NO caucus has ever produced hlthe2b Feb 2020 #11
What are you talking about? Kentonio Feb 2020 #15
For you to understand a discussion between two posters & interject-- you need to read the subthread. hlthe2b Feb 2020 #16
I read all of your frankly quite rude and patronizing replies Kentonio Feb 2020 #17
You were not part of the discussion and rudely interject without attempting to catch up. hlthe2b Feb 2020 #19
Thank you democrattotheend Feb 2020 #30
You're really comparing this to '08? D_Master81 Feb 2020 #21
2008 was exceptional. 60% were first time caucus goers. denem Feb 2020 #8
WA is a caucus state MFM008 Feb 2020 #12
Good news: WA switched to primaries n/t mathematic Feb 2020 #13
we did? MFM008 Feb 2020 #23
And less people will probably show up at the other caucuses because of this fiasco in Iowa. n/t zackymilly Feb 2020 #14
It's a low turnout because Caucuses suck scheming daemons Feb 2020 #20
turnout has been bigger in the past, but does it matter that much in a primary? especially a caucus? renate Feb 2020 #22
Bullshit. It's not an omen for anything. octoberlib Feb 2020 #24
2008 was a very exciting year. A woman and a black fellow. Historic time. nt Quixote1818 Feb 2020 #25
News said a lot of folks were waiting outside for hours to caucus Tiggeroshii Feb 2020 #26
What happened to the sanders voter revolution? Gothmog Feb 2020 #29
It's a caucus Wrz Feb 2020 #31
FactCheck Posts--- Sanders Spins Young Voter Turnout in Iowa Gothmog Feb 2020 #32
posts about omens go in the Religion/Spirituality forum n/t KayF Feb 2020 #33
Latest Discussions»Retired Forums»Democratic Primaries»2020 Iowa turnout might m...»Reply #31