Democratic Primaries

radical noodle

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119. I don't begrudge or deny Biden his lead

Wed Feb 5, 2020, 09:30 AM

Feb 2020

with older voters or with anyone for that matter. Biden is a good man and I would happily vote for him. But I've seen several polls where Pete does very well in that demographic. I've even heard people joking that Pete is an older man in a young body.

I think we forget that a lot of folks who 20 or 30 years ago would never have voted for a gay man or woman now have had to come to terms with the fact that they have friends and family members they love who are gay. In the past, they could pretend it wasn't true because so many stayed in the closet, but I've seen firsthand how the knowledge that their own loved ones are gay changed their feelings dramatically. I no longer think it's a deal-breaker the way it would have been a couple of decades ago.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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I don't understand why Buttigieg isn't the centrist replacement for Biden instead of Bloomberg. [View all] Voltaire2 Feb 2020 OP

I can think of 50 billion reasons.... OnDoutside Feb 2020 #1

I can think of one other obvious reason. Voltaire2 Feb 2020 #3

Probably best to look at it again after South Carolina, lots can happen. OnDoutside Feb 2020 #20

+1 n/t Laelth Feb 2020 #24

Bloomberg is the stronger candidate of the two left-of-center2012 Feb 2020 #2

based on vote count? Voltaire2 Feb 2020 #6

Why do you think that? left-of-center2012 Feb 2020 #17

I like Pete but Bloomberg was elected a mayor of a bigger city. dem4decades Feb 2020 #13

3 times left-of-center2012 Feb 2020 #22

One New Yorker says he engineered a 3rd term by bribing the NYC City Council. ancianita Feb 2020 #63

OMG ! left-of-center2012 Feb 2020 #64

Laugh all you want. He posted here. ancianita Feb 2020 #72

Bloomberg didn't "bribe the city council". That's factually incorrect and a Republican/right wing lapucelle Feb 2020 #129

Didn't know. Just posted what another poster posted. ancianita Feb 2020 #142

"How Bloomberg Got Away With Buying New York" redqueen Feb 2020 #98

Nobody had to vote for him the third time... brooklynite Feb 2020 #116

I am right there with you here Nikki28 Feb 2020 #126

Spot on. Being mayor of NY city is akin to beong a governor onetexan Feb 2020 #139

I don't think so. k2qb3 Feb 2020 #23

:-) left-of-center2012 Feb 2020 #26

++++ Doremus Feb 2020 #36

I don't understand why Warren isn't the liberal replacement for Sanders still_one Feb 2020 #4

Well she absolutely would be if Sanders dropped out. Voltaire2 Feb 2020 #8

She should be because of many factors IMHO still_one Feb 2020 #18

I don't think voters care about your opinion ChubbyStar Feb 2020 #28

Excuse me, I thought this was a forum to express opinions still_one Feb 2020 #33

Wow! Weird response. SharonClark Feb 2020 #43

Wierd is being very polite still_one Feb 2020 #47

+1000 denem Feb 2020 #112

Nice. denem Feb 2020 #110

Why would a liberal be a replacement for Sanders? OneMoreCupOfCoffee Feb 2020 #25

LOL. Touche' still_one Feb 2020 #29

Why is a Republican a replacement for Biden? Cuthbert Allgood Feb 2020 #127

... lapucelle Feb 2020 #37

I think she is for a lot of them. Doremus Feb 2020 #45

Hah. Turned that dumb question around. Scurrilous Feb 2020 #61

She's much more electable for the general election radical noodle Feb 2020 #89

I know alot of skiddish Dems & independents about Warren onetexan Feb 2020 #140

I won't argue that at all radical noodle Feb 2020 #143

well, they say... wyldwolf Feb 2020 #5

I'm guessing his relative lack of experience? The Velveteen Ocelot Feb 2020 #7

There are $millions$ of reasons why. No one else has the money to blow that he has except for Steyer Autumn Feb 2020 #9

Every time somebody calls a center-right Reagan Democrat a moderate Voltaire2 Feb 2020 #35

Got to figure someones in the race to kill the kitten. Twas ever thus. Autumn Feb 2020 #38

Mike Bloomberg is a Libertarian-Leaning Progressive. lapucelle Feb 2020 #42

Libertarian-Leaning Progressive. Autumn Feb 2020 #53

It wouldn't be surprising if what a layman perceives based on agenda driven story lines lapucelle Feb 2020 #60

I've seen his record. Autumn Feb 2020 #76

Bloomberg's record is there. lapucelle Feb 2020 #83

Here's his record. Autumn Feb 2020 #87

Bloomberg didn't vote with the Republicans against the Brady Bill five times. N/T lapucelle Feb 2020 #93

Bloomberg didn't vote with Republicans in favor of the NRA's pet project PLCAA. lapucelle Feb 2020 #94

He supported,endorsed, financed and got Republicans elected to office. The end. Autumn Feb 2020 #97

BS has consistently voted with the Republicans and the NRA for the past quarter of a century, lapucelle Feb 2020 #125

yup, important and timely reminder. MBS Feb 2020 #109

He could be like Steyer and spend his money to get Dems elected. I think Bloom just wants to make Autumn Feb 2020 #111

your whirlygig leaves out "authoritarian" Voltaire2 Feb 2020 #55

Mike Bloomberg proudly pro-choice delisen Feb 2020 #62

'primarily' Voltaire2 Feb 2020 #66

Has supported many Democrats in public office especially now delisen Feb 2020 #92

Anybody who supported Bush a second time exboyfil Feb 2020 #105

Wait...what? What are you talking about? lapucelle Feb 2020 #70

It's libertarian nonsense. Voltaire2 Feb 2020 #71

If you find the chart problematic, look at the underlying data, lapucelle Feb 2020 #81

Well, that's not a thing. Cuthbert Allgood Feb 2020 #128

BS and Elizabeth Warren are hard core liberals. lapucelle Feb 2020 #134

Post removed Post removed Feb 2020 #10

So to be clear: you would under no circumstances vote for Buttigieg. Voltaire2 Feb 2020 #31

Homophobia is alive and well. Autumn Feb 2020 #54

yeah that was weird. Voltaire2 Feb 2020 #68

I don't know what was said in the deleted post Lefta Dissenter Feb 2020 #91

It said what many think: That MAYOR Pete isn't ready Hortensis Feb 2020 #107

Lulzd. Voltaire2 Feb 2020 #118

He's a Harvard and Oxford Rhodes Scholar graduate Ghost Dog Feb 2020 #120

Yup. Sure does. And he's a forward-thinking small-city mayor. Hortensis Feb 2020 #124

That would be Klobuchar. apcalc Feb 2020 #11

If she was on top in Iowa I would agree. Voltaire2 Feb 2020 #30

Amy Klobuchar is a Populist-Leaning Liberal. lapucelle Feb 2020 #44

I believe its experience and having a track record. bluewater Feb 2020 #12

I'm guessing cause he isnt rich. Tiggeroshii Feb 2020 #14

Inexperience. stopbush Feb 2020 #15

Agree nt mdelaguna Feb 2020 #117

Voters over 45 years old. beastie boy Feb 2020 #16

I think Pete does well with older voters radical noodle Feb 2020 #90

"More so than Sanders" is a pretty low bar. beastie boy Feb 2020 #108

I don't begrudge or deny Biden his lead radical noodle Feb 2020 #119

I am skeptical, but it's worth keeping an eye on the data through the primaries. beastie boy Feb 2020 #121

Easy answer--$50+ billion that Bloomberg is willing to spend. Laelth Feb 2020 #19

SC polling, and national polling. highplainsdem Feb 2020 #21

like SC matters. k2qb3 Feb 2020 #27

It's the primaries - they all matter. TwilightZone Feb 2020 #34

If the red state goes for the Republican in the GE all those delegates from the primary Autumn Feb 2020 #40

They count as the choice of Democrats voting for who Hav Feb 2020 #73

+1 oasis Feb 2020 #95

It's not about Pete being gay so much as his age and lack of experience. SC matters highplainsdem Feb 2020 #41

Bloomberg... kevink077 Feb 2020 #32

It should be Klobuchar, but ... Dietz Feb 2020 #39

Wait until we get to a state that looks more like America. BlueIdaho Feb 2020 #46

Because Bloomberg is more electable. kstewart33 Feb 2020 #48

You figure after Stop-And-Frisk that POC will vote Bloomberg? Saviolo Feb 2020 #57

apparently the thinking is that they would prefer somebody who implemented Voltaire2 Feb 2020 #74

Respectfully, I disagree. kstewart33 Feb 2020 #137

I don't know why people say that Buttigieg is a centrist. W_HAMILTON Feb 2020 #49

Maybe people crave that "Bloomberg supported George Bush over John Kerry" mojo Hassin Bin Sober Feb 2020 #50

everybody knows why buttigieg is not the final guy. everybody knows nt msongs Feb 2020 #51

You posted that very succinctly nt underpants Feb 2020 #78

One word, three letters, sounds like nilram Feb 2020 #52

Do I always have to give the short sweet honest answer on the question every time I am asked it? Zolorp Feb 2020 #56

You do realize they're asking everyone reading the forum, right? redqueen Feb 2020 #99

You do realize my verbiage was chosen specifically for humorous effect, right? Zolorp Feb 2020 #101

LOL ok, now that was amusing. redqueen Feb 2020 #136

Centrists? LOL. OneMoreCupOfCoffee Feb 2020 #58

Because AA don't like Buttigieg. Democratic Party needs high AA vote. It could be his history helpisontheway Feb 2020 #59

Code violation policy that put a burden on black homeowners. Frederick Douglas plan roll-out emmaverybo Feb 2020 #141

Lack of experience would be my main reason. madibella Feb 2020 #65

I have to wash socks now. BBL. n/t rzemanfl Feb 2020 #79

Bloomburg, Biden and Buttigeig kurtcagle Feb 2020 #67

Because anti-gay bigotry is still very strong in this country phleshdef Feb 2020 #69

True. :( Kurt V. Feb 2020 #77

Bingo! My goodness, the tap dancing in this thread takes some real talent. MerryBlooms Feb 2020 #85

Has anyone considered how much campaign ammunition VMA131Marine Feb 2020 #75

Or, for that matter, owning a large financial news organization. tinrobot Feb 2020 #88

I don't see how anyone can think Bloomberg could end up the nominee. Garrett78 Feb 2020 #80

In California? Nt Ghost Dog Feb 2020 #123

He's not going to win here. Garrett78 Feb 2020 #138

We said similar things about lack of experience with Obama. tinrobot Feb 2020 #82

I guess nobody else is willing to touch the third rail on one of their 'million' reasons, so... MerryBlooms Feb 2020 #84

mayor Pete pamdb Feb 2020 #86

What replacement? IluvPitties Feb 2020 #96

you would think you could tell that there is no limit treestar Feb 2020 #100

For me ... SomewhereInTheMiddle Feb 2020 #102

I think the biggest reason is because he is gay Zolorp Feb 2020 #103

I'm confused, too -Bloomberg has 4 things against him MBS Feb 2020 #104

3. Bloomberg is a Republican. Cuthbert Allgood Feb 2020 #130

Fixed now. MBS Feb 2020 #144

His political and government resume is a little thin dlk Feb 2020 #106

I decided this morning that I can really see Michael Bloomberg as President katmondoo Feb 2020 #113

I mean, he did win Iowa, so he still might be (nt) Recursion Feb 2020 #114

Right now, neither of them are...that's why we hold Primaries. brooklynite Feb 2020 #115

No track record of managing on a LARGE SCALE. democratisphere Feb 2020 #122

I don't understand how "Sanders is a Democrat" is an argument on here, but Bloomberg gets a pass. Cuthbert Allgood Feb 2020 #131

I know I'd rather have Pete as VP and no Bloomberg LakeArenal Feb 2020 #132

He's up against bigotry, he has a lack of experience, and he's polling at 6%-7% for starters LongtimeAZDem Feb 2020 #133

Skipping the middle man Don1 Feb 2020 #135

Not ok with bloomberg. Not by a long shot. NedBraden Feb 2020 #145

We don't need to replace Biden. But..Bloomberg has $$ Laura PourMeADrink Feb 2020 #146

Probably his age Polybius Feb 2020 #147

Wasn't Bloomberg a Republican and I believe he endorsed W? Capt. America Feb 2020 #148