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MH1

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12. Guerrilla strategy is required.

Sun Feb 24, 2019, 10:06 AM

Feb 2019

We are up against a formidable and well funded army. We may have the right ideas, but don't have the funding strength to win by conventional means.

I support Medicare for All as a goal, but am not willing to sacrifice on the altar of purity those that could be helped by a program that makes Medicare accessible for those facing age discrimination in layoffs and hiring. There is currently a gap where a person laid off after age 50 will not be able to afford any health coverage at all until they are able to buy into Medicare - currently at 65!! That is a lot of people, people tending to be most in need of medical help.

Yes, full single payer is the right policy. But if we can't get there from here? But we can get somewhere short of that, that helps a lot of people? Hell yeah I'll take "helps a lot of people now" over "helps everyone ... never".

ETA - (apparently I lost my original point here, LOL): Not only does "Medicare for more" have a better chance of actually helping more people sooner, it IS a "guerrilla strategy" that would get us closer to Medicare for All. So the purists should not be attacking it. If it is a step to the goal, take it, ferchrissakes.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Health Care and Insurance Industries Mobilize to Kill 'Medicare for All' [View all] Lazy Daisy Feb 2019 OP

No real surprise Sherman A1 Feb 2019 #1

And how many humans? Soxfan58 Feb 2019 #2

Of course..... Ohiogal Feb 2019 #3

The problem is a majority of the country gets insurance through their employer, and likes it Recursion Feb 2019 #6

Then let the employer pay for the MFA. Hassin Bin Sober Feb 2019 #17

I believe, but could be wrong Lazy Daisy Feb 2019 #21

Just like now. Hassin Bin Sober Feb 2019 #23

somewhat Lazy Daisy Feb 2019 #27

They love their employer insurance until they don't DBoon Feb 2019 #30

Yep. But they love it now Recursion Feb 2019 #34

has he ever gotten a bill for $14,000 DBoon Feb 2019 #15

It works for the insurance companies ZeroSomeBrains Feb 2019 #24

Well adopting unpopular stances like Medicare for all replacing work place insurance will lead Demsrule86 Feb 2019 #29

I haven't seen the polling you have on MFA ZeroSomeBrains Feb 2019 #35

No not if you ask about replacing workplace insurance which MFA does. Demsrule86 Feb 2019 #36

I respectfully disagree ZeroSomeBrains Feb 2019 #37

It won't take much. Just say a dem candidate farted wrong lancelyons Feb 2019 #4

not at all Lazy Daisy Feb 2019 #5

Replacing private insurance with universal Medicare is incredibly unpopular Recursion Feb 2019 #7

That's why our candidate needs a proposal to help the people who "need" help MH1 Feb 2019 #13

The only people who it really helps are the 6% of the country on the individual market Recursion Feb 2019 #14

Well there's the 40,000 plus people who die every year due to lack of healthcare. Hassin Bin Sober Feb 2019 #18

Many of them have (and even like) their insurance Recursion Feb 2019 #22

The issue is the states who refuse to expand medicaid and who are those states who are Demsrule86 Feb 2019 #26

you don't get enrolled in medicare for all Lazy Daisy Feb 2019 #20

This led to our defeat in 94 also. Demsrule86 Feb 2019 #28

Ain't that the truth? Politicub Feb 2019 #32

Medicare for all is unpopular leftofcool Feb 2019 #8

Let the employer pay for the MFA Hassin Bin Sober Feb 2019 #19

The AMA tried to stop Medicare, and neither the AMA nor the insurance industry is really c-rational Feb 2019 #9

Red Meat Meet Political Reality! kennetha Feb 2019 #10

Gosh, I'm going to have to disagree with you. PatrickforO Feb 2019 #33

People are so often self-centered and don't give a sh** about others as long as they have what RKP5637 Feb 2019 #11

Guerrilla strategy is required. MH1 Feb 2019 #12

My view is if we don't go after single payer, KPN Feb 2019 #16

This belongs in GD crazytown Feb 2019 #25

I think we need to revise the way we are looking at this. PatrickforO Feb 2019 #31

The American Criminal Enterprise Healthcare System MUST democratisphere Feb 2019 #38

Locking... DonViejo Feb 2019 #39