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emmaverybo

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5. I think it is chrystal balling and way outsizes Iowa's impact on a much larger picture. I don't know
Thu Feb 6, 2020, 01:53 AM
Feb 2020

what factors the model considers, but we don’t even have information to determine factors that might be relevant right now—how voters view the importance of Iowa; any surge in AA support for Sanders and Buttigieg and a correspondingly steep decline in it for Biden; historical trends; impact on donations and endorsements, new polling from all the other states; consideration of any other candidates.


Enough time has not yet passed for information to come in on Iowa’s potential influence on these many factors and others. Dem voters are just processing the results. Any model that says Iowa’s results alone have so radically altered the outcome of a primary just begun is terribly flawed.

However, 538 added to media bias could become self-fulfilling prophecy. That will not prove the model works, just that it, like any fortune-telling can influence people’s minds and behavior.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden

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I think 538's model is overestimating the impact of the Iowa results. highplainsdem Feb 2020 #1
I think we're already seeing the impact it's having... Drunken Irishman Feb 2020 #2
Well, if Sanders gets the nomination, we can probably forget about beating Trump, and forget about highplainsdem Feb 2020 #4
I think NH is going to be the pivot... Drunken Irishman Feb 2020 #6
You know you could as easily and in fairness to process playing out make S.C. the Pivot. However, emmaverybo Feb 2020 #7
I see the writing on the wall. Drunken Irishman Feb 2020 #8
You are a seer then. I'll bide my time. I never thought Biden would prevail in Iowa or NH though. emmaverybo Feb 2020 #9
It's not that Biden didn't prevail in Iowa... Drunken Irishman Feb 2020 #10
Has his polling changed dramatically for the worse in Nevada, in S.C.? In the swing states, in the emmaverybo Feb 2020 #11
It will if he finishes 4th in New Hampshire. Or if he finishes 3rd and Buttigieg is 2nd. Garrett78 Feb 2020 #13
COULD matter, or not. Voter's faith in Biden'a electability could take a hit, emmaverybo Feb 2020 #17
I'm not making any assumptions. Garrett78 Feb 2020 #18
Very possible it has... Drunken Irishman Feb 2020 #16
Message auto-removed Name removed Feb 2020 #15
I can't imagine him finishing 5th, but 4th is possible and would be devastating. Garrett78 Feb 2020 #12
I think it is chrystal balling and way outsizes Iowa's impact on a much larger picture. I don't know emmaverybo Feb 2020 #5
Not enough people care about 538 for it to influence anything HowardZinnfandel Feb 2020 #14
A model, not polling. And a model based on the results of one state unrepresentative of the emmaverybo Feb 2020 #3
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