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emmaverybo

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17. COULD matter, or not. Voter's faith in Biden'a electability could take a hit,
Thu Feb 6, 2020, 05:18 AM
Feb 2020

and that translate into a loss in Nevada and S.C., but on the other hand, the competitors you expect it follows would win those states have weak to zero AA support and other limitations.

Voters as easily could go by future prospects, questioning Buttigieg, Sanders’, or Warren’s ability to win the GE. You assume voters would see Biden as a weak prospect for not placing better in two small states, while also assuming, on the same limited basis, that voters suddenly perceive one of the above as the nation’s savior.

The candidates themselves surely are not changed essentially by what occurs in Iowa and N.H., but voters’ perceptions of them are so drastically altered?

Maybe the media starts pumping Biden because, shorn of the aura of inevitable electability, he’ s suddenly interesting, an underdog! You absolutely can not control for all events. Anything can and does happen. I think Biden is too strong a candidate and too widely respected and liked to be vanquished by the outcome in Iowa and NH, much as placing first or second would give him a boost.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden

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I think 538's model is overestimating the impact of the Iowa results. highplainsdem Feb 2020 #1
I think we're already seeing the impact it's having... Drunken Irishman Feb 2020 #2
Well, if Sanders gets the nomination, we can probably forget about beating Trump, and forget about highplainsdem Feb 2020 #4
I think NH is going to be the pivot... Drunken Irishman Feb 2020 #6
You know you could as easily and in fairness to process playing out make S.C. the Pivot. However, emmaverybo Feb 2020 #7
I see the writing on the wall. Drunken Irishman Feb 2020 #8
You are a seer then. I'll bide my time. I never thought Biden would prevail in Iowa or NH though. emmaverybo Feb 2020 #9
It's not that Biden didn't prevail in Iowa... Drunken Irishman Feb 2020 #10
Has his polling changed dramatically for the worse in Nevada, in S.C.? In the swing states, in the emmaverybo Feb 2020 #11
It will if he finishes 4th in New Hampshire. Or if he finishes 3rd and Buttigieg is 2nd. Garrett78 Feb 2020 #13
COULD matter, or not. Voter's faith in Biden'a electability could take a hit, emmaverybo Feb 2020 #17
I'm not making any assumptions. Garrett78 Feb 2020 #18
Very possible it has... Drunken Irishman Feb 2020 #16
Message auto-removed Name removed Feb 2020 #15
I can't imagine him finishing 5th, but 4th is possible and would be devastating. Garrett78 Feb 2020 #12
I think it is chrystal balling and way outsizes Iowa's impact on a much larger picture. I don't know emmaverybo Feb 2020 #5
Not enough people care about 538 for it to influence anything HowardZinnfandel Feb 2020 #14
A model, not polling. And a model based on the results of one state unrepresentative of the emmaverybo Feb 2020 #3
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