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Hortensis

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13. DanTex, Sanders says he lives in a different world, and
Fri Feb 7, 2020, 09:31 PM
Feb 2020

I understand that you see things very differently from me also. But my reality is that the NYT article is neither admiring nor dishonest, it's fact-based and alarming, and it reports years of behaviors that may be accelerating.

Btw, coming on the word "centrism" used in a threat by some thug described in this article caused me to remember that centrist is a term you repeatedly misuse in describing Democrats Sanders has voted with 95-99% for years and years. Could hardly forget anyone repeatedly suggesting, by the transitive property of smears, that Sanders is a centrist.

Yet as Mr. Sanders moves to position himself as a standard-bearer for a party he has criticized from the left for decades, the power of his internet army has also alarmed Democrats who are familiar with its underside, experienced in ways large and small.

Some progressive activists who declined to back Mr. Sanders have begun traveling with private security after incurring online harassment. Several well-known feminist writers said they had received death threats. A state party chairwoman changed her phone number. A Portland lawyer saw her business rating tumble on an online review site after tussling with Sanders supporters on Twitter. Other notable targets have included ... “But you have to be very cognizant when you say anything critical of Bernie online. You might have to put your phone down. There’s going to be a blowback, and it could be sexist, racist and vile.” ...

When Mr. Sanders’s supporters swarm someone online, they often find multiple access points to that person’s life, compiling what can amount to investigative dossiers. They will attack all public social media accounts, posting personal insults that might flow in by the hundreds. Some of the missives are direct threats of violence, which can be reported to Twitter or Facebook and taken down. ... For some perceived Sanders critics, there has been mail sent to home addresses — or the home addresses of relatives. The contents were unremarkable: news articles about the political perils of centrism. The message seemed clear: We know where you live. ...

But many political veterans outside the Sanders operation fault the campaign’s handling of the vitriol. Jess Morales Rocketto, a progressive strategist who worked on campaigns for Barack Obama and Mrs. Clinton, said Mr. Sanders had empowered aides and surrogates who “have a tendency to aggressively amplify things that a campaign would normally shut down amongst supporters. There are always people who say things that are problematic. It’s not that that is unique to Bernie’s campaign,” she said. “What’s unique is it is a consistent problem in the universe of Bernie Sanders.” ...

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/27/us/politics/bernie-sanders-internet-supporters-2020.html
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden

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Am I allowed to use the word hate about a candidate? efhmc Feb 2020 #1
KR! Cha Feb 2020 #2
We don't need the 'swarm' and we don't need tactics like this. PatrickforO Feb 2020 #3
If Bernie cannot lead his own diehard followers... keithbvadu2 Feb 2020 #4
"Sanders online army resembles President Trump's most ardent supporters Hortensis Feb 2020 #5
+1 William769 Feb 2020 #6
Really? Citing that NYT article that literally interviewed an anti-Bernie twitter troll to portray DanTex Feb 2020 #8
Did you read the article? George II Feb 2020 #10
No they did not. sheshe2 Feb 2020 #12
Here. The Tweet Dan sent was the answer to Sanders supporters Doxing sheshe2 Feb 2020 #15
Thank you. George II Feb 2020 #18
Fact is the tweet posted was not complimentry to Sanders supporters. sheshe2 Feb 2020 #21
Do you think it would matter if they did?...nt SidDithers Feb 2020 #33
DanTex, Sanders says he lives in a different world, and Hortensis Feb 2020 #13
+ 1000 sheshe2 Feb 2020 #16
+1 betsuni Feb 2020 #20
Yes, we do see things differently. DanTex Feb 2020 #22
+1 betsuni Feb 2020 #17
I like Bernie, but many of his supporters are scumbags dustyscamp Feb 2020 #24
Everyone likes the good he says he wants to accomplish. Hortensis Feb 2020 #25
Well 'bot sentinel' isn't lighting up on twitter...... Historic NY Feb 2020 #28
Yes, the thugs on line and Gothmog witnessed up close and personal Hortensis Feb 2020 #31
The conduct described in the OP is the same type of conduct I saw at the National Convention Gothmog Feb 2020 #27
You came to see democracy in action, instead protected it from Hortensis Feb 2020 #29
I really agree your analysis Gothmog Feb 2020 #30
Kick mcar Feb 2020 #7
K&R brer cat Feb 2020 #9
KnR NCProgressive Feb 2020 #11
K&R sheshe2 Feb 2020 #14
To understand these angry thugs, and Trump's, it's important to Hortensis Feb 2020 #19
+1 betsuni Feb 2020 #34
I heard some talking head say that there are fewer lawn signs in NH than usual... unitedwethrive Feb 2020 #23
As Sanders' numbers rise, theirs are also. Last year it was Hortensis Feb 2020 #37
The "swarm": How some Sanders loyalists attack online dissent Gothmog Feb 2020 #26
K&R betsuni Feb 2020 #32
We saw it here in 2015, before the TOS change... SidDithers Feb 2020 #35
Occam's Razor... BlueIdaho Feb 2020 #36
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