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In reply to the discussion: The 'swarm': How a subset of Sanders supporters use hostile tactics to drown out critics [View all]Hortensis
(58,785 posts)13. DanTex, Sanders says he lives in a different world, and
I understand that you see things very differently from me also. But my reality is that the NYT article is neither admiring nor dishonest, it's fact-based and alarming, and it reports years of behaviors that may be accelerating.
Btw, coming on the word "centrism" used in a threat by some thug described in this article caused me to remember that centrist is a term you repeatedly misuse in describing Democrats Sanders has voted with 95-99% for years and years. Could hardly forget anyone repeatedly suggesting, by the transitive property of smears, that Sanders is a centrist.
Yet as Mr. Sanders moves to position himself as a standard-bearer for a party he has criticized from the left for decades, the power of his internet army has also alarmed Democrats who are familiar with its underside, experienced in ways large and small.
Some progressive activists who declined to back Mr. Sanders have begun traveling with private security after incurring online harassment. Several well-known feminist writers said they had received death threats. A state party chairwoman changed her phone number. A Portland lawyer saw her business rating tumble on an online review site after tussling with Sanders supporters on Twitter. Other notable targets have included ... But you have to be very cognizant when you say anything critical of Bernie online. You might have to put your phone down. Theres going to be a blowback, and it could be sexist, racist and vile. ...
When Mr. Sanderss supporters swarm someone online, they often find multiple access points to that persons life, compiling what can amount to investigative dossiers. They will attack all public social media accounts, posting personal insults that might flow in by the hundreds. Some of the missives are direct threats of violence, which can be reported to Twitter or Facebook and taken down. ... For some perceived Sanders critics, there has been mail sent to home addresses or the home addresses of relatives. The contents were unremarkable: news articles about the political perils of centrism. The message seemed clear: We know where you live. ...
But many political veterans outside the Sanders operation fault the campaigns handling of the vitriol. Jess Morales Rocketto, a progressive strategist who worked on campaigns for Barack Obama and Mrs. Clinton, said Mr. Sanders had empowered aides and surrogates who have a tendency to aggressively amplify things that a campaign would normally shut down amongst supporters. There are always people who say things that are problematic. Its not that that is unique to Bernies campaign, she said. Whats unique is it is a consistent problem in the universe of Bernie Sanders. ...
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/27/us/politics/bernie-sanders-internet-supporters-2020.html
Some progressive activists who declined to back Mr. Sanders have begun traveling with private security after incurring online harassment. Several well-known feminist writers said they had received death threats. A state party chairwoman changed her phone number. A Portland lawyer saw her business rating tumble on an online review site after tussling with Sanders supporters on Twitter. Other notable targets have included ... But you have to be very cognizant when you say anything critical of Bernie online. You might have to put your phone down. Theres going to be a blowback, and it could be sexist, racist and vile. ...
When Mr. Sanderss supporters swarm someone online, they often find multiple access points to that persons life, compiling what can amount to investigative dossiers. They will attack all public social media accounts, posting personal insults that might flow in by the hundreds. Some of the missives are direct threats of violence, which can be reported to Twitter or Facebook and taken down. ... For some perceived Sanders critics, there has been mail sent to home addresses or the home addresses of relatives. The contents were unremarkable: news articles about the political perils of centrism. The message seemed clear: We know where you live. ...
But many political veterans outside the Sanders operation fault the campaigns handling of the vitriol. Jess Morales Rocketto, a progressive strategist who worked on campaigns for Barack Obama and Mrs. Clinton, said Mr. Sanders had empowered aides and surrogates who have a tendency to aggressively amplify things that a campaign would normally shut down amongst supporters. There are always people who say things that are problematic. Its not that that is unique to Bernies campaign, she said. Whats unique is it is a consistent problem in the universe of Bernie Sanders. ...
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/27/us/politics/bernie-sanders-internet-supporters-2020.html
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
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The 'swarm': How a subset of Sanders supporters use hostile tactics to drown out critics [View all]
William769
Feb 2020
OP
Really? Citing that NYT article that literally interviewed an anti-Bernie twitter troll to portray
DanTex
Feb 2020
#8
The conduct described in the OP is the same type of conduct I saw at the National Convention
Gothmog
Feb 2020
#27
I heard some talking head say that there are fewer lawn signs in NH than usual...
unitedwethrive
Feb 2020
#23