Democratic Primaries

thesquanderer

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142. Maybe. But I've looked at that Clinton campaign document...

Sat Feb 8, 2020, 08:29 PM

Feb 2020

...and I don't think anything there would persuade someone to actually vote for Trump instead of Sanders... even if they aren't thrilled with Sanders, just like many weren't thrilled with Clinton. That's why I think he'd at least win the states that Clinton won. I'll grant you (or the writer of that article) that Florida is a tough sell... but Clinton didn't win Florida either. What Sanders would have to do is maintain the states that didn't go for Trump last time, and add three rust belt states (out of Michigan, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, and Ohio).

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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If most DU members would support Bloomberg over Sanders they haven't looked at his record [View all] Quixote1818 Feb 2020 OP

I won't participate in that type of poll. blm Feb 2020 #1

Its baffling really Tiggeroshii Feb 2020 #2

Supported Bush the second time, even. Against Kerry. That did a lot of damage. JudyM Feb 2020 #16

It absolutely helped him win Tiggeroshii Feb 2020 #17

Forgot about that!! That drops Bloomberg even below Biden on my list. InAbLuEsTaTe Feb 2020 #108

Not just baffing, its sad in light of the baseless Bernie bashin that goz on here on a daily basis! InAbLuEsTaTe Feb 2020 #103

I do not care, he has the best chance against Trump I_M_Blue_2 Feb 2020 #104

Bloomberg helped give us Trump Tiggeroshii Feb 2020 #105

+1000 aeromanKC Feb 2020 #127

Looks like there are plenty of folks who do not have this top of mind....and that is UniteFightBack Feb 2020 #135

Now hold on!!! jcmaine72 Feb 2020 #123

I would support him over Sanders because I think he has a better chance of winning The Velveteen Ocelot Feb 2020 #3

Isn't funding repub candidates multiple times worse than "slamming Democrats"? Bradshaw3 Feb 2020 #19

He's funding Democrats right now and that's all I care about. The Velveteen Ocelot Feb 2020 #27

Short memory for some and not for others Bradshaw3 Feb 2020 #99

I still don't care. Can he beat Trump? That's what I care about. The Velveteen Ocelot Feb 2020 #100

I want to win so that is my priority...not something that happened a decade ago. Demsrule86 Feb 2020 #41

Failing to accomplish anythng significant in a very long career is a much greater concern to me spooky3 Feb 2020 #57

Look I love Bernie, but he can not beat Trump I_M_Blue_2 Feb 2020 #106

This. cwydro Feb 2020 #29

my reasoning as well handmade34 Feb 2020 #32

I have to agree with you PatSeg Feb 2020 #98

Good point Dem2 Feb 2020 #126

AMEN!!!!! jrthin Feb 2020 #128

I wouldn't trust Sanders to get in, in the first place. W_HAMILTON Feb 2020 #4

What does "get in" mean? Tiggeroshii Feb 2020 #18

I used it the same way the original poster did... W_HAMILTON Feb 2020 #31

Got it Tiggeroshii Feb 2020 #66

I don't like Sander, but that is not why I would vote for Bloomberg...Bloomberg maybe can win Demsrule86 Feb 2020 #5

Yeah, vote for the stop & frisk billionaire turned Rethug, turned Independent, turned Democrat InAbLuEsTaTe Feb 2020 #6

Sanders is an Independent turned Democrat ...so ? Demsrule86 Feb 2020 #7

Message auto-removed Name removed Feb 2020 #11

True that. Demsrule86 Feb 2020 #15

Yep. EndlessWire Feb 2020 #132

Sanders would get creamed. Too much baggage and too divisive. OneMoreCupOfCoffee Feb 2020 #10

Sanders was a member of the Socialist Workers Party of America. Zolorp Feb 2020 #8

We already elected a pro fascist, openly authoritarian sociopath Tiggeroshii Feb 2020 #76

History has proved something time after time. Zolorp Feb 2020 #79

Sanders' record is far worse to those not wearing blinders. NYMinute Feb 2020 #9

Yep.. one thing right off the top is much worse than the sum of everything Bloombergs accused of: Amimnoch Feb 2020 #13

Guess Sanders' supporters see better than you think. Doremus Feb 2020 #55

I know ... but it fits the scenario better NYMinute Feb 2020 #68

Quite aware of his record. It's been posted here enough. Amimnoch Feb 2020 #12

Here's a recent article that provides a lot of info on how Bloomberg has spent his money for highplainsdem Feb 2020 #14

He spent about $200 million supporting Democratic candidates, not to mention all the philanthropic.. George II Feb 2020 #22

Philanthropy including $1B curbing deaths from tobacco and half a billion combating climate change. highplainsdem Feb 2020 #30

Thanks. very informative riversedge Feb 2020 #35

Well...I would rather have Biden and Warren is my second choice with a strong VP choice... Demsrule86 Feb 2020 #20

People are refusing to back Biden then they'll get themselves a Bloomberg and I'm ok with that.nt UniteFightBack Feb 2020 #136

Or maybe people have, and prefer Bloomberg's record. DanTex Feb 2020 #21

Winning isn't everything, it is the only thing. Trump must go. Demsrule86 Feb 2020 #24

DU runs more toward candidates who have been Democrats for a long time, INCLUDING Bloomberg. George II Feb 2020 #25

Bloomberg was a Republican who supported and voted for George W Bush. DanTex Feb 2020 #36

Bloomberg was a republican for six years. Prior to 2001 (going back to his 20s) he was a Democrat.. George II Feb 2020 #43

He's opposed Dems his entire political career. He was nominally a D before he entered politics. DanTex Feb 2020 #51

His "entire"political career prior to this year was 12 years, 7 as a republican and.... George II Feb 2020 #53

The policies I support are 100% Bernie's, but ... I_M_Blue_2 Feb 2020 #110

Yes, which is why the working class in this country will no longer accept crumbs, plain and simple!! InAbLuEsTaTe Feb 2020 #116

I get what you are saying I_M_Blue_2 Feb 2020 #118

Do you think that because both Bernie and Mike are native New Yorkers BumRushDaShow Feb 2020 #119

Trump is a master showman and he knows how to use labels I_M_Blue_2 Feb 2020 #122

I respect your opinion... and I just respectfully disagree. InAbLuEsTaTe Feb 2020 #120

There it is TRUTH. underthematrix Feb 2020 #130

Gov. Northam also voted for Bush...and yet he is a great governor and turned the state blue...Warren Demsrule86 Feb 2020 #44

Right now, Bernie and Bloomberg are both running as Dems. DanTex Feb 2020 #54

No, as people have told your repeatedly...I prefer that Bloomberg is likely to win a general. Demsrule86 Feb 2020 #63

Except in our discussions you seem opposed to all of Bernie's policies, and supportive of DanTex Feb 2020 #69

I do not support free college with no income ...or MFA but since there is no chance Demsrule86 Feb 2020 #84

Bernie will become an Independent should he lose. Demsrule86 Feb 2020 #85

Of course, because Bloomberg has been so consistent with his political registrations in the past... DanTex Feb 2020 #87

More consistent than Sanders...who runs as a Democrat in Vermont and then Demsrule86 Feb 2020 #93

Moderate? You give them too much credit. Voltaire2 Feb 2020 #42

Mike Bloomberg is a Libertarian-Leaning Progressive lapucelle Feb 2020 #61

Can he beat Trump? Yes, he has my vote N/T I_M_Blue_2 Feb 2020 #111

I thought it was JB. Voltaire2 Feb 2020 #114

I am an FDR Democrat! True Blue American Feb 2020 #124

Not a reformed republican like Warren, he seems to go whichever way the wind blows. JudyM Feb 2020 #23

Not really. He was a Democrat, switched to republican because of the unique political climate.... George II Feb 2020 #46

Lol if you say so. Anyone who supported Bush is not on my team. JudyM Feb 2020 #59

Don't care about purity only care about beating Trump I_M_Blue_2 Feb 2020 #112

All polls show him beating trump JudyM Feb 2020 #113

He's absolutely trashing Trump at every turn. TheCowsCameHome Feb 2020 #26

Put Bernie in a poll with Tulsi. rzemanfl Feb 2020 #28

Message auto-removed Name removed Feb 2020 #33

I would support Satan over Trump Dan Feb 2020 #34

Buy one, get one free. TheCowsCameHome Feb 2020 #39

Is there a difference? The Velveteen Ocelot Feb 2020 #45

Hahahhahaha Dan Feb 2020 #71

Me too. Demsrule86 Feb 2020 #47

We know. greymattermom Feb 2020 #37

Was it something I said? n/t rzemanfl Feb 2020 #38

here is the logical reasoning lapfog_1 Feb 2020 #40

Makes sense to me. The Velveteen Ocelot Feb 2020 #49

Great logic...I agree...Oh,oh..San Fran is only up by three.... I am rooting for them myself. Demsrule86 Feb 2020 #50

Not looking good... up by 10 but couldn't stop lapfog_1 Feb 2020 #52

Sad for SF... Demsrule86 Feb 2020 #86

His spending also may scare Republicans into supporting campaign finance reform Recursion Feb 2020 #75

I really would not want to have Bloomberg as a nominee... Sloumeau Feb 2020 #48

Bloomberg is and has been an strong anti-gun activist. I trust him to work for that cause. lapucelle Feb 2020 #56

he is not better than BS, he is just more likely to win than him AlexSFCA Feb 2020 #58

Bloomberg needed money for New York because of 911...it is not that simple. Demsrule86 Feb 2020 #60

I'll bet you Trump is more afraid of Bloomberg than he is of Sanders. RandySF Feb 2020 #62

I think you are right. TheCowsCameHome Feb 2020 #64

Trumps an idiot jcgoldie Feb 2020 #67

There is no such thing as a squeaky clean candidate Jake Stern Feb 2020 #65

If it is a Democrat, I'd vote for a piece of discarded chewing gum over Sanders in the primary NYMinute Feb 2020 #70

I like Warren and agree with a lot of what Bernie proposes, AJT Feb 2020 #72

It isn't about record.. it is about who will beat Trump by more scheming daemons Feb 2020 #73

Bernie would not get any of what he says done showblue22 Feb 2020 #74

We want to beat trump Gothmog Feb 2020 #77

Wait...our only choices are Bloomberg or Sanders? Since when? Clash City Rocker Feb 2020 #78

sanders can't beat biden, so he is making it him or bloomberg..... getagrip_already Feb 2020 #80

I know his record. He was my mayor. Not a fan. But robbedvoter Feb 2020 #81

Anyone supporting Sanders over Amy hasn't looked at their records Fresh_Start Feb 2020 #82

Love this reply... AncientGeezer Feb 2020 #95

Stop and Frisk is unique to New York. Scurrilous Feb 2020 #83

Both of these are last and next to last on my primary voting list. lark Feb 2020 #88

I don't like Bloomberg very much at all, but would support him over Sanders in a heartbeat. tritsofme Feb 2020 #89

I support Bloomberg over Sanders because of Sanders' record LongtimeAZDem Feb 2020 #90

Much like saying "If DU members disagree with me, it's because they're flawed..." LanternWaste Feb 2020 #91

It's about who to support over trump. themaguffin Feb 2020 #92

That is why I want him in the debates booley Feb 2020 #94

Bloomberg's record is better than Sanders' in many ways. Hortensis Feb 2020 #96

How exactly? booley Feb 2020 #107

No, you can't. That's the point. Skip the misinformation Hortensis Feb 2020 #109

Bloomberg get results, Bernie scolds Democrats for not bowing down to him. comradebillyboy Feb 2020 #97

They haven't - they just hate Sanders Blues Heron Feb 2020 #101

This election won't be won on policy. MontanaMama Feb 2020 #102

This message was self-deleted by its author InAbLuEsTaTe Feb 2020 #115

I'm for Biden BUT bluestarone Feb 2020 #117

I'll say it here and now...I won't vote for Bloomberg or Gabbard pecosbob Feb 2020 #121

The only thing that matters is beating trump Gothmog Feb 2020 #125

re: "If sanders is the nominee, trump wins 45+ states" thesquanderer Feb 2020 #139

I have seen some of the oppo on sanders-trump can use this oppo to win 45+ states easily Gothmog Feb 2020 #140

Maybe. But I've looked at that Clinton campaign document... thesquanderer Feb 2020 #142

The Clinton memo was for primary use only and has stuff that real Democrats would care about Gothmog Feb 2020 #143

This election... FarPoint Feb 2020 #129

If he can beat Trump I don't care about any of that. The Velveteen Ocelot Feb 2020 #131

Bloomberg is electable and that is all that matters Gothmog Feb 2020 #133

It's about beating dump. What part of that are you not understanding. nt UniteFightBack Feb 2020 #134

Don't feed details to those of us who aren't stupid enough to care about details Awsi Dooger Feb 2020 #137

Sanders is unelectable. Renew Deal Feb 2020 #138

For many, all that matters is which of the two has the better chance of beating Trump Kaleva Feb 2020 #141

And who can best help down ballot candidates Gothmog Feb 2020 #144

Very true Kaleva Feb 2020 #146

My refusal to support Sanders isn't based on policy... Happy Hoosier Feb 2020 #145

Record and positions do not matter Gothmog Feb 2020 #147