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stopdiggin

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43. that is most likely true

Sun Feb 9, 2020, 05:41 PM

Feb 2020

what is patently NOT true is the attempt to spin this as Biden using a terrible slur directed at a young woman.

It might have been ham handed .. but the video clearly shows that this was NOT a mean spirited exchange or attack. And THAT'S where the real lying is taking place. (IMO)

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

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Ugly insult by Biden in NH confirmed by WaPo [View all] Renew Deal Feb 2020 OP

If true, I have a question... Ferrets are Cool Feb 2020 #1

I guess you had to be there. Scurrilous Feb 2020 #10

In context the very next sentence was "You gotta be honest". krissey Feb 2020 #16

I worked with this girl in a restaurant when I was in college. Scurrilous Feb 2020 #33

How about if it is not about smearing, or about making Biden a monster. krissey Feb 2020 #40

Point. cwydro Feb 2020 #72

Hardly appropriate when meeting someone for the first time MichMan Feb 2020 #79

I guess nobody understands joe fallout87 Feb 2020 #102

Most understand him... except those who pretend they don't LanternWaste Feb 2020 #112

Its not "understanding" him, its making excuses for him... fallout87 Feb 2020 #120

"Ever greet someone with 'how you doing you old 'blankety blank.'" rusty fender Feb 2020 #104

Biden explained years ago he got that line from his brother who's a John Wayne fan, who apparently highplainsdem Feb 2020 #108

Pretty sure he was joking. Just was a weird choice of joke. BusyBeingBest Feb 2020 #2

But she was squirecam Feb 2020 #6

Even if you suspect she isn't being truthful on that point, why go there? BusyBeingBest Feb 2020 #18

That's Joe squirecam Feb 2020 #23

She could have been at a caucus as an observer. book_worm Feb 2020 #20

You might be surprised to learn that Mercer has out of state students. aikoaiko Feb 2020 #29

he didn't imply she was lying, he directly said she was lying Blues Heron Feb 2020 #28

I think mostly he just wanted to use that movie line LOL. BusyBeingBest Feb 2020 #30

right- it's old-time Hollywood's idea of what an Indian chief might say as an insult Blues Heron Feb 2020 #35

What's an "Indian" chief? N/T lapucelle Feb 2020 #42

Ask Joe Blues Heron Feb 2020 #44

Yes, but why did you use the term? N/T lapucelle Feb 2020 #49

Watch the vid Blues Heron Feb 2020 #52

I did watch. That doesn't explain why you used the term. lapucelle Feb 2020 #59

Use a movie line that someone might not have heard? OnlinePoker Feb 2020 #99

It's clear he didn't think it through at all before it came out of his mouth. BusyBeingBest Feb 2020 #101

Yes, I think he was trying to use humor and it just got to the wrong place. totodeinhere Feb 2020 #86

Wow. Haven't we had enough zentrum Feb 2020 #3

That's what I was thinking Renew Deal Feb 2020 #4

+1,000 n/t MarcA Feb 2020 #32

Who is he to call a young woman a liar? Autumn Feb 2020 #5

Bernie called Warren a liar. How quickly we forget. Skya Rhen Feb 2020 #9

Two wrongs make a right? Ferrets are Cool Feb 2020 #12

And you were furious no? But calling a young woman a lying dog face pony solder is fine right. Autumn Feb 2020 #13

Yes he did. And HRC. It is so easy for liar to be thrown out when talking to a woman. krissey Feb 2020 #21

+1000 sheshe2 Feb 2020 #31

So Biden's unfunny joke to a 21-year old female voter BlueWI Feb 2020 #70

+1 n/t FreeState Feb 2020 #81

I don't understand why people are dismissing it as a joke Renew Deal Feb 2020 #11

Who the hell watches John Wayne movies? For that matter does anyone under the age of Autumn Feb 2020 #15

I love John Wayne movies, he's a guilty pleasure for me. stopbush Feb 2020 #22

Maybe next time he can get a pie and hit a woman in the face with it. I'm sure everyone watches Autumn Feb 2020 #57

LOL. BlueWI Feb 2020 #69

I can get on board with that! Nyuk nyuk. Hassin Bin Sober Feb 2020 #98

At which point, the flock would say "I've never heard of a pie in the face as funny..." LanternWaste Feb 2020 #113

This part of the fock finds a "funny insult" that Bidens brother used on him to not be funny. Autumn Feb 2020 #118

Some watch old movies when not playing records on the old Victrola. n/t zackymilly Feb 2020 #39

I remember my grandma doing that. Sixty years ago. Autumn Feb 2020 #48

John Wayne H2O Man Feb 2020 #61

True, John Wayne was a racist piece of shit and a raging homophobe. Autumn Feb 2020 #64

His autopsy proved H2O Man Feb 2020 #68

It's Tyrone Powers anyway jberryhill Feb 2020 #88

His people clarified. It was a "funny insult" his brother used on him. He forgot and Autumn Feb 2020 #119

Plenty of people. TexasTowelie Feb 2020 #89

,,,, Scurrilous Feb 2020 #7

"You gotta be honest" Where is the joke in that? krissey Feb 2020 #24

Context and delivery matter. Scurrilous Feb 2020 #38

Yes, it was a joke for everyone but the woman, that was shaken. I stand with her. krissey Feb 2020 #45

Jokingly ? Someone explain this John Wayne thing how is it a joke to say a liar? lunasun Feb 2020 #8

This message was self-deleted by its author pinkstarburst Feb 2020 #14

John Wayne was putting grown women over his knee and spanking them because he deemed they krissey Feb 2020 #25

Biden has long suffered from foot-in-mouth Retrograde Feb 2020 #17

that is most likely true stopdiggin Feb 2020 #43

I can agree with this. I do not think he was using dog face the same way Trump does. krissey Feb 2020 #50

Interesting that Washington Post didn't bother to include the video that is available EVERYWHERE! George II Feb 2020 #19

The context of the moment undermines their angle, so of course they omitted it. Jedi Guy Feb 2020 #26

The original WaPo report said 'jokingly.' The video shows that. Scurrilous Feb 2020 #56

The woman was shaken. The joke might have entertained all in the room, but it was at krissey Feb 2020 #63

Two girls out of 50 in my 8th grade class were pregnant at graduation. greatauntoftriplets Feb 2020 #75

Wow. krissey Feb 2020 #76

Double wow FreeState Feb 2020 #83

When I first went to the article it didn't have the video, now it's been added, sort of.... George II Feb 2020 #67

Yep. Scurrilous Feb 2020 #71

Was this a saying back when Biden was younger? dewsgirl Feb 2020 #27

Way younger. It's from a movie in 1959. nt zackymilly Feb 2020 #41

No wonder I never heard it. That had to be from when he was dewsgirl Feb 2020 #60

"say it ain't so Joe" brutus smith Feb 2020 #34

Agreed. Such excuses will really help us in November - Not. n/t MarcA Feb 2020 #46

Right. And that is suppose to be good enough. Joe being Joe. krissey Feb 2020 #51

good let's go Joe ! stonecutter357 Feb 2020 #36

He was joking....watch the video... so silly. Demsrule86 Feb 2020 #37

Not really funny especially when most people never heard Wayne say it. Nt USALiberal Feb 2020 #54

I understood it to be a "fake insult" even without knowing the John Wayne connection. Beartracks Feb 2020 #94

Serious question: How did the student feel about this? Rorey Feb 2020 #47

After the joke... and I have to wonder when he follows up with "You gotta be honest" krissey Feb 2020 #58

Vanity Fair link w/ Joes explanation of the line Blues Heron Feb 2020 #53

JOKING. watch the video stopdiggin Feb 2020 #55

100% agree cherryinpa Feb 2020 #62

I've said many times that even though I am not BlueWI Feb 2020 #90

It was a joke that's clear. The media seems to be desperate. rockfordfile Feb 2020 #65

The young woman was shaken by the "joke". Does that matter? krissey Feb 2020 #66

the young woman was "shaken" before the exchange ever happened stopdiggin Feb 2020 #74

How do you get that she was "fibbing a bit" Blues Heron Feb 2020 #84

I'm taking that from others stopdiggin Feb 2020 #97

I believe her. I have no reason to think she's lying Blues Heron Feb 2020 #100

is there a claim that she was an "observer?" stopdiggin Feb 2020 #103

No matter what it was a nasty put down Blues Heron Feb 2020 #106

nope. it wasn't. and the pearls are quite safe stopdiggin Feb 2020 #109

Who clearly planted her? /nt tonedevil Feb 2020 #111

In that I misspoke stopdiggin Feb 2020 #115

Thank you... tonedevil Feb 2020 #116

Damn, Joe went full Abe Simpson on her. LudwigPastorius Feb 2020 #73

Which is from a Western movie and it was met with laughter. mahina Feb 2020 #77

Let's ignore for a moment that it was a fake insult said in jest... Beartracks Feb 2020 #78

He called her a liar too, not just a dog faced pony soldier Blues Heron Feb 2020 #82

Yes, the phrase included the word "liar" in it. Beartracks Feb 2020 #85

he actually called her that. Blues Heron Feb 2020 #87

Why not just answer her question and move on? BlueWI Feb 2020 #93

Should have challenged her to a push up contest instead. MichMan Feb 2020 #80

Or a trip behind the barn. zackymilly Feb 2020 #95

at... myohmy2 Feb 2020 #91

Well. Joe needs to take a break .nt BootinUp Feb 2020 #92

He just took a break. n/t zackymilly Feb 2020 #96

Seriously, THIS is a disqualifying action/statement/whatever for Biden being our nominee? NoMoreRepugs Feb 2020 #105

One person's ugly insult snowybirdie Feb 2020 #107

Great. Spread media spin. Helps your preferred candidates now, but if yours get ahead, expect emmaverybo Feb 2020 #110

And his "victim" laughed harder than he did. LanternWaste Feb 2020 #114

It was reported today that she was insulted and she thought less of him because of it. Renew Deal Feb 2020 #117

When women "laugh along with the joke", they are not offended jberryhill Feb 2020 #121