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119. It is possible that it could be

Reply to IronLionZion (Reply #53)

Tue Apr 2, 2019, 06:20 PM

Apr 2019

That would have to be looked into.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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The utter STUPIDITY of "Always believe the woman"---- [View all] Atticus Apr 2019 OP

Neanderthal. It's not that simple. ugh ugh Kurt V. Apr 2019 #1

My actual reaction to your post was to laugh, but I don't want to fill a page with "Ha-Ha"s, so Atticus Apr 2019 #8

i thought it was funny. :) . thnx for the non-alert. i have so much respect for you now. Kurt V. Apr 2019 #127

Nothing Neanderthal about it. Polly Hennessey Apr 2019 #128

I'm not saying it should be. but it's been the other way for ever. Kurt V. Apr 2019 #130

Two wrongs don't make a right. IluvPitties Apr 2019 #132

The goal us to stop Biden at all costs left-of-center2012 Apr 2019 #2

Believe unless there is Good reason not to. crazytown Apr 2019 #3

Take seriously and investigate qazplm135 Apr 2019 #13

This message was self-deleted by its author left-of-center2012 Apr 2019 #23

That is my take on this as well! pazzyanne Apr 2019 #24

That's what "believe" means initially...take seriously enough to investigate & listen to both sides. InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #69

Reread your post. Look up "believe" in any dictionary. Aren't you embarrassed? nt Atticus Apr 2019 #86

Not in the least... fits perfectly! You proved my point... thanks!! InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #88

Uh-huh. nt Atticus Apr 2019 #91

wow qazplm135 Apr 2019 #94

maybe to you qazplm135 Apr 2019 #87

I don't believe you. InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #89

right qazplm135 Apr 2019 #93

Thank you. It can 't be stated any better. brush Apr 2019 #108

Umm no. Don't automatically believe shit! Dream Girl Apr 2019 #30

That's guilty until proven innocent. defacto7 Apr 2019 #97

... handmade34 Apr 2019 #4

Similar to: no_hypocrisy Apr 2019 #5

Been there Sherman A1 Apr 2019 #9

I'm truly sorry to know you had to go through that. no_hypocrisy Apr 2019 #11

It was ugly but doesn't seem to compare Sherman A1 Apr 2019 #14

Thanks. I believe each time I see false allegations, part of my heart dies. no_hypocrisy Apr 2019 #22

I am sure the reasons vary with the individuals and situations Sherman A1 Apr 2019 #25

Some people just see an advantage treestar Apr 2019 #113

Ha! No way jberryhill Apr 2019 #56

Wish I would have known at the time Sherman A1 Apr 2019 #77

Unfortunately PatSeg Apr 2019 #62

From the moment that started being said I knew it would be weaponized Trenzalore Apr 2019 #6

This. The first time I heard it I facepalmed. localroger Apr 2019 #15

Which is worrisome because millennia of NOT believing Squinch Apr 2019 #43

The two allegations Trenzalore Apr 2019 #44

But neither ever said that their experiences amounted to assault. In fact, Flores has said Squinch Apr 2019 #54

So they question is: Why did she all of a sudden make a big deal of it? luvtheGWN Apr 2019 #100

Flores is no shrinking violet... louis c Apr 2019 #101

The solution is not automatically believing. treestar Apr 2019 #114

I always believe the accusations should be taken seriously Sherman A1 Apr 2019 #7

The court of public opinion is not a criminal court fountainofyouth Apr 2019 #19

Sure hope you feel the same if you're ever charged or accused. bitterross Apr 2019 #21

Precisely Sherman A1 Apr 2019 #31

If anyone photographed me doing this fountainofyouth Apr 2019 #33

The woman in that pic has not said she felt uncomfortable. bitterross Apr 2019 #38

Also everyone is saying its the woman's responsibility to Squinch Apr 2019 #39

She didn't feel uncomfortable. I know her and so does my family and she told us that she smirkymonkey Apr 2019 #45

I won't question you in that particular case fountainofyouth Apr 2019 #48

And I don't think his motives were any more improper in the other smirkymonkey Apr 2019 #59

THIS is the problem with many of these "if" posts. The woman in that photo DID NOT say Atticus Apr 2019 #65

That woman clearly expxlained that she was NOT threatened. GemDigger Apr 2019 #70

That is specifically a woman who said she didn't? treestar Apr 2019 #116

You move the goalposts LanternWaste Apr 2019 #82

The Court of Public Opinion is certainly not a criminal court Sherman A1 Apr 2019 #34

Photos alone don't prove anything. treestar Apr 2019 #115

Instead of "Always Believe the Woman," We Should, Instead, "Always Take Women Seriously" dlk Apr 2019 #10

Exactly n/t Bradshaw3 Apr 2019 #32

Yes, the Joe Biden article w/ Ash Carter's wife was a pure smear job and completely smirkymonkey Apr 2019 #46

When the next Republican is the accused, all here will revert back to "Always believe the woman" SFnomad Apr 2019 #12

The hypocrisy is heartbreaking. Squinch Apr 2019 #36

"Somehow we all knew Trump talking about how he grabbed women without their permission Atticus Apr 2019 #72

Did he grab a woman without her permission? Squinch Apr 2019 #79

As the saying goes: "I could explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you." We differ on Atticus Apr 2019 #90

Nope. You won't be reading any more posts from me. I'm out. Squinch Apr 2019 #92

Okay. nt Atticus Apr 2019 #96

I disagree with this characterization. I really do. yardwork Apr 2019 #122

Perhaps that will be the case for many Sherman A1 Apr 2019 #37

If you say so n/t SFnomad Apr 2019 #40

I do Sherman A1 Apr 2019 #41

The Republicans will circle the wagons Trenzalore Apr 2019 #49

False, stop accusing us of that treestar Apr 2019 #117

I've never seen "all" state anything like "always believe the woman." yardwork Apr 2019 #118

K&R reACTIONary Apr 2019 #16

"Believe women...until they accuse someone I like!" is the takeaway here Tarc Apr 2019 #17

As the OP does not reference ANY person or candidate, please explain where you Atticus Apr 2019 #20

Who the OP, i.e. you, was referring to, was quite obvious Tarc Apr 2019 #81

Ah, yes, the Limbaugh method : "Never mind what you actually SAID. I'll tell you Atticus Apr 2019 #83

What was down to Franken was a shame Trenzalore Apr 2019 #28

What was done to Franken was of his own doing Tarc Apr 2019 #80

Bullshit Trenzalore Apr 2019 #98

Spent a lot of time on that riposte? Tarc Apr 2019 #125

I think I would violate terms of service if I responded more. Trenzalore Apr 2019 #131

I accept your concession Tarc Apr 2019 #135

Nice straw man (or straw woman) argument fountainofyouth Apr 2019 #18

The nightly news led tonight with this Trenzalore Apr 2019 #26

Well, I'm not the news director at NBC fountainofyouth Apr 2019 #35

Here is my problem Trenzalore Apr 2019 #42

Would this happen in an ideal world? Maybe fountainofyouth Apr 2019 #47

I am not voting for him unless he is the nominee Trenzalore Apr 2019 #50

Not following fountainofyouth Apr 2019 #51

Her preference for candidate is not Joe Biden Trenzalore Apr 2019 #52

DU has sunk very, very low over this. Squinch Apr 2019 #27

Yes it has. n/t whopis01 Apr 2019 #120

I'm sorry.. but it Is Stupid. Cha Apr 2019 #29

Yes, it is profoundly stupid peggysue2 Apr 2019 #55

And, here she is trying to smear Hillary in 2017.. After the GE. Cha Apr 2019 #61

How nice! peggysue2 Apr 2019 #66

Welcome.. Cha Apr 2019 #67

+1 Little Star Apr 2019 #109

Her experience of it doesn't need to be factual, merely her impressions onit2day Apr 2019 #58

"Her experience of it doesn't need to be factual, merely her impressions" LongtimeAZDem Apr 2019 #63

Amazing, isn't it? nt Atticus Apr 2019 #71

Exactly. This is what we Cha Apr 2019 #78

If she claims she felt uncomfortable, then it's not a lie IronLionZion Apr 2019 #53

But if she felt uncomfortable, it doesn't necessarily mean it was wrong frazzled Apr 2019 #73

Good Post, Recommend. nt UniteFightBack Apr 2019 #74

Thanks for this, frazzled. Stonepounder Apr 2019 #99

Well said Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Apr 2019 #134

It is possible that it could be treestar Apr 2019 #119

I think she didn't feel uncomfortable and she is lying and she hurts me too and Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #121

I applaud your bravery in posting this. bitterross Apr 2019 #57

I totally agree with you. I'm a woman who can discern between predation and affection. Texin Apr 2019 #64

Yes, good parenting does seem to be the solution to a lot of things. bitterross Apr 2019 #68

I agree completely. K&R highplainsdem Apr 2019 #60

Believe women. PERIOD. nt MadDAsHell Apr 2019 #75

. nt Atticus Apr 2019 #85

Take women seriously Sugarcoated Apr 2019 #110

No not a politically motivated liar who uses me to against a candidate she does not support. Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #123

Including the SRA claimants? JCannon Apr 2019 #129

Women never lie? What about take every accusation seriously? IluvPitties Apr 2019 #133

Non sequitur. nt fleabiscuit Apr 2019 #76

Once more, with clarity. nt Atticus Apr 2019 #84

I'm going to believe the woman until I start smelling bullshit. Autumn Apr 2019 #95

I never thought I'd quote Reagan Harker Apr 2019 #102

I am at a point with regard to sexual assault that I am prepared to accept some draconian measures t Perrenial Voter Apr 2019 #103

I have just 2 words.. cannabis_flower Apr 2019 #104

And "backwards B girl." yardwork Apr 2019 #124

This won't only discredit Biden, or Franken murielm99 Apr 2019 #105

I so agree. I think Franken wasn't given a fair hearing, that said I don't think most women ... marble falls Apr 2019 #106

Publish the Republican Offenders, too moonseller66 Apr 2019 #107

I agree: it is just not justice treestar Apr 2019 #111

Well said. yardwork Apr 2019 #112

Marking to read up on this. underpants Apr 2019 #126