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loyalsister

(13,390 posts)
33. It's totally unnecessary
Tue Apr 2, 2019, 05:50 PM
Apr 2019

This is a political problem for Joe. As it is unwinding, it's clear that the numbers are against him. He has a record of crossing a line with physical affection. Whether that makes someone uncomfortable is not my business or my place to define. The main lesson of me too is numbers. Every woman in the US lives with a threat of sexual assault or unwanted advances. Most of us have experienced it. And, many live with severe trauma because of their experience.
The odds are that at least one woman has experienced Joe's affection in a way that made her feel even worse than uncomfortable.

I think he is sincere in that he didn't intend to make anyone uncomfortable, and centering it back on himself shows that he is still operating as if his intentions naturally invalidate the experience of any woman who was on the receiving end.

I get that there are people who are satisfied with how he has addressed it and that is a valid option. Primaries are a time of forgiveness and calculating what compromises one is willing to make in support of a candidate. There are good reasons to support Joe and the rest of our candidates. There are also good reasons why someone would not support any given candidate.

The entire basis for rejecting basic decency as "political correctness" is a belief that less powerful people are not supposed to object to being dehumanized or dismissed as unimportant. Going down that road and making this about what a terrible woman did to their favorite candidate does not reflect well on the supporters or the candidate.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided

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Echoes of the worst part of Bill Clinton's defense: JaneQPublic Apr 2019 #1
I believe she is doing a huge disservice to the me too movement blue cat Apr 2019 #2
agree. barbtries Apr 2019 #8
me too... hlthe2b Apr 2019 #19
And.. when biden was there boosting her campaign... where were the complaints? Self serving Thekaspervote Apr 2019 #27
Those were my exact thoughts.. Cha Apr 2019 #24
What photos I have posted is not attacking Ms. Flores................ ProudMNDemocrat Apr 2019 #3
When Joe is destroyed they will start again on Kamala, then Liz, etc. Eliot Rosewater Apr 2019 #4
Here was Joe Biden's response still_one Apr 2019 #6
Of course you did. hedda_foil Apr 2019 #17
She no longer supports Bernie? That's news to me. comradebillyboy Apr 2019 #21
Is it? hedda_foil Apr 2019 #22
'the endless brouhaha over this notascandal nothingburger has become maddening' comradebillyboy Apr 2019 #23
Criticizing her isn't required to see her assertions as not disqualifying to Biden's campaign. David__77 Apr 2019 #5
I agree, and in the end it will be the voters that will decide still_one Apr 2019 #7
Yes, they will. David__77 Apr 2019 #15
Exactly. Put the allegations in reasonable context unblock Apr 2019 #10
You are now the arbiter of "correctness"? lark Apr 2019 #9
Ooh, posting an op gets me an impressive title? Who knew? unblock Apr 2019 #11
Flores knew contemporaneously about the harassment namahage Apr 2019 #13
She didn't have to do this publicly, but she did. ucrdem Apr 2019 #12
She is sent to take out Biden. Won't work. She is a Sanders surrogate sent by Sirota. Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #18
I disagree; a BS claim is a BS claim, and it has to be called out LongtimeAZDem Apr 2019 #14
What do you define as "attacking"? Vinnie From Indy Apr 2019 #16
Yes PDittie Apr 2019 #35
She shouldn't use me too for political reasons. I hope she comes to understand Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #20
Lucy Flores is a campaign operative for Bernie Sanders BlueFlorida Apr 2019 #25
And many will ask, "why do these women not come forward?". eom guillaumeb Apr 2019 #26
it's unreal seeing people here doing exactly what they'd flip out if republicans did it. unblock Apr 2019 #29
Very true. guillaumeb Apr 2019 #37
at least it recognizes that the woman has her own perspective. unblock Apr 2019 #38
Agreed. guillaumeb Apr 2019 #39
That's rather unfair treestar Apr 2019 #28
there are many ways to *defend* him without *attacking* her. unblock Apr 2019 #30
No. The last time we let allegations go unchallenged, we lost a great Senator LongtimeAZDem Apr 2019 #32
It doesn't work that way.. here I am calling out Flores.. Cha Apr 2019 #31
It's totally unnecessary loyalsister Apr 2019 #33
Basic decency is accepting a compassionate gesture in the spirit it was intended, and LongtimeAZDem Apr 2019 #34
Yeah loyalsister Apr 2019 #36
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