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matt819

(10,749 posts)
20. Am I wrong?
Mon Feb 10, 2020, 03:29 PM
Feb 2020

I'm not suggesting that the Democratic candidate pool is the best that Dems could put up. But every one of them is intelligent, thoughtful, experienced, mostly honest, and mostly decent. You may prefer one over the others and believe that everyone else is a moron for supporting someone else, but, hey, that's life.

As for who can beat Trump. I'm not entirely sure that this is quite the right approach. Sure, the candidate is important, but, as noted, every one of them has something going, or they wouldn't be where they are at this point in the process. I think the more important point is whether whoever gets the nomination will run a campaign that will beat Trump. Will that candidate ensure that there is a rapid response team to respond to every trump tweet or insult or lie? And to respond instantaneously and in volume. Will that candidate use the micro targetting capabilities on FB? Will they put out hundreds - thousands - of news releases, news reports from every quarter. Not from Macedonia, but from hundreds of social media saavy Dems. If Bloomberg is not the candidate, will he spend hundreds of millions on TV ads? If so, great. New ads every day. In every market. If trump has a rally in DesMoines, the candidate needs to show up a day before. That's what I mean by Rapid Reponse. Every paid employee of whoever's campaign it is needs to be confirmed and reconfirmed as someone without the sort of baggage - racist tweets, sexist video, homophobic slurs - that can derail a campaign. Yes, the campaign needs to be a 50-state campaign, but emphasis has to be on the electoral college states that can really fuck us up again. And, yes, even the red states, with messages that might appeal to them. Consistency. On track. Focus. Be ready for every insult or threat. PACs need to mock, mock, mock. Hair, height, make-up - hey male farmers, do you put on makeup when to go to work every morning?

Yes, this is standard campaign stuff, but Dems have managed to forget or get sidetracked. This is not the time for either.

Can any current candidate have a decent chance if all of this is done? Frankly, I don't think so. But I won't say who I think would fall short regardless of running a forceful campaign. But I think we need to go into the primary voting booths with the belief that "our candidate" can pull it off.

And all of this is apart from the GOTV issue, which is a problem all by itself, and one that has to have its own concerted effort in the general. We have to get beyond the my candidate or bust attitude.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden

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Agreed. Turin_C3PO Feb 2020 #1
Mine too. But I do have some criteria...as long as they are not a crook or not as dumb as rump... SWBTATTReg Feb 2020 #2
...or supported by Russia pandr32 Feb 2020 #15
But can Bloomberg save us from China? n/t zackymilly Feb 2020 #32
The only thing that matters is if he can save us from Donald Trump jmowreader Feb 2020 #33
With all the so called troubles still any Democrat will beat trump. Blue Tsunami is coming. pwb Feb 2020 #3
I agree 100%. There is no plan B. The Velveteen Ocelot Feb 2020 #4
I feel the same way. I'm in PA and by the time our primary livetohike Feb 2020 #5
Agreed. Plan A: beat tRump no matter what. Polly Hennessey Feb 2020 #6
Agree! mzmolly Feb 2020 #7
I have been there from day one. In fact I am ready to end this whole ugly nomination process... honest.abe Feb 2020 #8
2020 is all about the most corrupt presidency in US history. I want the warrior best blm Feb 2020 #9
Please pick who you think is best MoonlitKnight Feb 2020 #10
+1 redqueen Feb 2020 #11
You have hog tied yourself Stinky. We don't know what we donT know. What I do know is The thriving Ninga Feb 2020 #12
+++. People should keep in mind that Bill Clinton lost both Iowa and N.H. still_one Feb 2020 #16
I have said this before, the reason we keep losing is because we put so much weight on Iowa and NH. redstatebluegirl Feb 2020 #28
I hear ya still_one Feb 2020 #29
Like Post #10 says... TreasonousBastard Feb 2020 #13
so let me point out that didn't work before booley Feb 2020 #14
All of our candidates can defeat 45 so vote for whomever best reflects your views. LonePirate Feb 2020 #17
Agreed!! 2020 is about saving America!! aeromanKC Feb 2020 #18
i see bloomie takin it right to him, punching him in the face. mopinko Feb 2020 #19
Am I wrong? matt819 Feb 2020 #20
I am undecided SouthernIrish Feb 2020 #21
Got my ballot in today's mail. For the 1st time ever, I'm not ready to fill it out. lamp_shade Feb 2020 #22
My only criteria is that our candidate be able to beat Trump. Danascot Feb 2020 #23
Being undecided isn't a BAD thing. Laelth Feb 2020 #24
Yup. ismnotwasm Feb 2020 #25
Most of what we see hear and read is biased jr1118x Feb 2020 #26
I share your only goal. I am in a late-ish primary state. I won't decide till I see how Bloomberg Squinch Feb 2020 #27
I'm a one issue voter this time Green Line Feb 2020 #30
+1 nt Fresh_Start Feb 2020 #31
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