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In reply to the discussion: Amy Klobuchar "troubled" by having democratic socialist Sanders atop ticket [View all]Celerity
(54,791 posts)24. pure false framed slurs, loaded code wording included
you said
Pete is hip deep in billionaire money
Buttiegieg, out of 10's of millions of dollars raised, has taken a total 112,000 USD directly from billionaires
you said
taking Wall St. money vs. voter contributions
these numbers go back to Q3 2019 and before
do the maths, Bernie had 18m in Q2, 25m Q3 (43m), Pete had 25m and 19m (44m)
Warren had 19m and 25m (44m)
BUT 10m USD of that was for a transfer of pre-existing funds and counting all that, only 48% of her total monies before Q3 was from small donors. 10m of Sanders totals has come from transfers of preexisting funds, and when the transfers are added in, even he has only 60% of his total monies from small donors.
Pete was not running in Q1, he officially launched April 14, 2019.
In Q2, when he raised around 25m USD, his average donation was only 84 USD per person, from almost 300,000 individuals, and that was in just his first full quarter of running. His average contribution was 33 USD in Q3.
Big Donors, Small Donors: Pete Buttigieg Has Courted Them All Successfully
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/01/us/politics/pete-buttigieg-fundraising.html
he already had over 400,000 individual donors just from Q2 and before:
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/pete-buttigieg-raises-over-24-million-in-second-quarter-of-fundraising/
According to the campaign, the haul came from 294,000 donors including more than 230,000 new donors in the second quarter of the year. That means that more than 400,000 Americans have donated to Buttigieg since he began his campaign.
he uses a well balanced fundraising approach, it is ludicrous to say he only courts or receives money from rich donors
Again
The ultimate irony is counting Warren's 10m in account transfers, only 48% of her total monies before Q3 were from small donors. 49% of Buttigieg's monies have come from small donors. 10m of Sanders' totals has come from transfers of preexisting funds, and when the transfers are added in, even he had only 60% of his total monies from small donors prior to Q3. Prior to Q3, Buttigieg had over 400,000 individual donors, and had well over half a million (580,000) individual donors by Q3. His average Q3 donation was 33 USD (per MSNBC today). For comparison, Sanders had an average donor contribution of 27 USD in Q3 (again per MSNBC today.) But hey!, lets all buy into a far left, TYT, JD, etc.-pushed shit-stir tweet using a chop-quote, that Pete is basically only fundraising from the rich, and shits on small donors, lolol.
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/01/us/politics/Pete-Buttigieg-fundraising.html
Mr. Schmuhls memo said more than 580,000 individual donors had contributed to the Buttigieg campaign since it launched in January, placing him well above likely thresholds to compete in future presidential debates. It said the campaign had raised more than $51 million since the beginning of the race, with an average donation of about $40. The memo did not reveal how much cash Mr. Buttigieg had remaining at the end of the third quarter.
finally
some newer numbers, for Q4
Pete Buttigieg raised $24.7 million in the final quarter of 2019, according to an email his campaign sent out Wednesday.
Since entering the race in April, the Democratic presidential contender has hauled in $76 million, the email said, with 733,000 individual donors making up that sum.
Buttigieg received his largest donor share in the fourth quarter alone, with 326,000 people contributing to the campaign.
Since entering the race in April, the Democratic presidential contender has hauled in $76 million, the email said, with 733,000 individual donors making up that sum.
Buttigieg received his largest donor share in the fourth quarter alone, with 326,000 people contributing to the campaign.
He is tracking to have over 1.3 to 1.5 million individual donors by the time the primaries end, yet you and the Berner social media attack dogs try to slag him off over 40 people, who gave a combined $112K out of well over 100 million USD
pathetic
and btw
When is Bernie going to disclose his dark money donors to his Our Revolution scheme???
When is Bernie going to disclose his dark money donors to his Our Revolution scheme???
Shadow group provides Sanders super PAC support he scorns
https://apnews.com/345bbd1af529cfb1e41305fa3ab1e604
WASHINGTON (AP) Bernie Sanders says he doesnt want a super PAC. Instead, he has Our Revolution, a nonprofit political organization he founded that functions much the same as one.
Like a super PAC, which is shorthand for super political action committee, Our Revolution can raise unlimited sums from wealthy patrons that dwarf the limits faced by candidates and conventional PACs. Unlike a super PAC, however, the group doesnt have to disclose its donors a stream of revenue commonly referred to as dark money.
Now, with less than one month to go before the Iowa caucuses, Our Revolution appears to be skirting campaign finance law, which forbids groups founded by federal candidates and officeholders from using large donations to finance federal election activity, including Sanders 2020 bid.
A debate over big money in politics has riven the Democratic primary with Sanders and fellow progressive, Massachusetts Sen. Elizabeth Warren, leading the attack on rivals including former Vice President Joe Biden and former South Bend, Indiana, Mayor Pete Buttigieg, who have relied on big-dollar donors.
But while Warren has come under fire for courting wealthy financiers in her past Senate campaigns, Sanders and Our Revolution have largely avoided scrutiny during the primary, even as he has accelerated his criticism of others, among them Biden, for relying on super PACs founded by their allies.
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hypocrisy abounds
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
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Amy Klobuchar "troubled" by having democratic socialist Sanders atop ticket [View all]
left-of-center2012
Feb 2020
OP
I'm troubled by having a "back to normal" candidates (Amy/Joe/Pete) on the ticket.
Indepatriot
Feb 2020
#3
so utterly disingenuous to label Buttigieg a 'back to normal' candidate when he has been amongst
Celerity
Feb 2020
#21
Yep. Many of the first leaders of Our Revolution quit because Weaver set it up to take
ehrnst
Feb 2020
#59
Well, the jury is still out on who the "dance partners" are on another candidate:
ehrnst
Feb 2020
#58
I am troubled that Sanders will lose to Trump, fail to regain the Senate and maybe lose the house...
Demsrule86
Feb 2020
#27
Russians brought us Trump. We should not strategize around the idea that a more leftist candidate
emmaverybo
Feb 2020
#57
I'm concerned about anyone who uses a comb to eat their salad atop the ticket. nt
Autumn
Feb 2020
#4
Yes indeed it is an earth shattering issue, can you imagine the outrage if another candidate
Autumn
Feb 2020
#18
I think it shows ingenuity and thinking outside the box and excellent problem solving skills...
Demsrule86
Feb 2020
#34
We shall see after super Tuesday...people have sounded the alarm...hope it works.
Demsrule86
Feb 2020
#37
I'm more concerned about Chuck Todd listening to 10th place Bennet's winning plans ;)
floppyboo
Feb 2020
#11
We will win or lose in the midwest...we lost there in 16 and that is what Trump is going for...so
Demsrule86
Feb 2020
#44
She is being honest, and she is absolutely right, and unfortunately what Bloomberg is going to end
still_one
Feb 2020
#26
I don't think the debates will change the dynamics. However, if Amy places third or better in NH, I
still_one
Feb 2020
#35
No doubt the Socialist Label will be loosely thrown around if that happens, and by proxy, right or
still_one
Feb 2020
#39
It's things like this that makes me feel like I'd have to hold my nose
Cuthbert Allgood
Feb 2020
#42