Democratic Primaries

Perseus

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11. Lets not be naive about this, any Democrat will be labeled as such.

Tue Feb 11, 2020, 10:45 AM

Feb 2020

Elizabeth Warren has already been labeled as a socialist, and Obama was labeled as a socialist. Lets stop pretending this is exclusive to Sanders, we are only hurting ourselves.

What we should be doing instead is explaining that NONE of the Democratic candidates are socialists, they promote progressive ideas that include Democracy, Regulated Capitalism, and Social Programs that benefit everyone, such as "Universal Healthcare", "Free Education". Democrats must also bring to light the socialism that exists for the elites and the corporations, how they benefit from socialist tax cuts, and other socialist benefits that save them a ton of money.

We need to stop allowing republican talking points to dominate our conversation and to divide us by attacking our own.

Here is an article from 2012:
"Is Obama a socialist?"
https://www.cnbc.com/id/47678760

"Is President Obama really a Socialist?" - 2012
https://www.forbes.com/sites/peterferrara/2012/12/20/is-president-obama-really-a-socialist-lets-analyze-obamanomics/

"Rick Perry says Obama is a Socialist" - 2012
https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2012/jan/08/rick-perry/rick-perry-says-barack-obama-socialist/

So tell me now, is this exclusive to Sanders?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

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Most Would Not Vote for a Socialist [View all] RandySF Feb 2020 OP

Socialist? Wait till Trump gets done, a Socialist will be a Commie by Trumps ads. dem4decades Feb 2020 #1

The irony of all these is that if Biden were to win the nomination he will also be labeled as a Perseus Feb 2020 #5

Trump: You're a Socialiast. Biden: No I'm not. Sanders: Yes I am, but..... brooklynite Feb 2020 #8

Not really. Act_of_Reparation Feb 2020 #10

For your information, Sanders is not making that mistake anymore "yes, I am" Perseus Feb 2020 #23

"Why doesn't everyone see things the way I do"? brooklynite Feb 2020 #34

"Why doesn't everyone see things the way Millionaires do"? whathehell Feb 2020 #81

Thank You dem4decades Feb 2020 #36

And we all know that "I am not!" works so well in politics. LanternWaste Feb 2020 #49

Not true. Joe is a known quantity. It sticks with Bernie because redstateblues Feb 2020 #30

Thank You! Cha Feb 2020 #56

EXCEPT when you say it about Sanders it RINGS TRUE. nt UniteFightBack Feb 2020 #60

well its a good thing Bernie is not a Socialist LeftTurn3623 Feb 2020 #2

But he is though comradebillyboy Feb 2020 #12

I think you forgot radical noodle Feb 2020 #16

You're right, he's not a socialist, dware Feb 2020 #52

Where is a socialist? I don't see a socialist candidate in any of the Democrats Perseus Feb 2020 #3

Wait till the ads run..... It's gonna be ugly. Happy Hoosier Feb 2020 #4

Lets not be naive about this, any Democrat will be labeled as such. Perseus Feb 2020 #11

It will stick to some of them more than others. nt gollygee Feb 2020 #14

No it won't, the glue is the same for everyone, no one is exempt of those attacks Perseus Feb 2020 #17

No, it didn't really stick to Obama and that's why he won and was so popular gollygee Feb 2020 #19

As I said, because of Obama's popularity and his ability to defuse it Perseus Feb 2020 #25

There is no way to defuse the word "socialist" in most of the country. nt gollygee Feb 2020 #55

Bloomberg can't be labelled a socialist denem Feb 2020 #63

He has been a Democrat for a lot longer blue cat Feb 2020 #78

Warren has seen seven years service as a Democratic representative. denem Feb 2020 #83

The US will not elect a Socialist for President. The numbers don't lie redstateblues Feb 2020 #33

Numbers don't lie, but they can be misinterpreted thesquanderer Feb 2020 #61

Bernie Sanders has self-identified as a socialist jmowreader Feb 2020 #59

Amazing how some people act like the Internet doesn't exist. MH1 Feb 2020 #67

Yeah, well tell that to Obama. They got their base to call him a socialist, Malmsy Feb 2020 #72

Socialism Rider3 Feb 2020 #6

Thank you, well said Perseus Feb 2020 #13

I guess it's a good thing we don't have any socialists running jimfields33 Feb 2020 #7

I agree - that's why I changed my support to Amy Klobuchar. Quemado Feb 2020 #9

In his own words... NurseJackie Feb 2020 #15

1989...and he has not changed, has he? He is a progressive who wants to get rid of elite socialism Perseus Feb 2020 #20

Oh please. Stop it! No, it's not "bickering" it's getting to the truth... NurseJackie Feb 2020 #44

It's divisive, and we can't afford division right now. Malmsy Feb 2020 #74

This message was self-deleted by its author Malmsy Feb 2020 #73

There is no one to select who they won't paint as a socialist. Saviolo Feb 2020 #18

Joe is not a Socialist. Bernie is. The old "they'll call everyone that" redstateblues Feb 2020 #35

That's not the point. Saviolo Feb 2020 #41

But there is video of only one of the candidates saying it about himself. nt aka-chmeee Feb 2020 #80

People voted for a Democratic Socialist four times. Malmsy Feb 2020 #21

He had Henry Wallace on his left. RandySF Feb 2020 #22

So they voted for Henry Wallace? That is an argument? Perseus Feb 2020 #24

Stop. NurseJackie Feb 2020 #45

I will persist. Malmsy Feb 2020 #46

Prepare for disappointment. NurseJackie Feb 2020 #47

Manifesting a positive result is not something that should be mocked. Malmsy Feb 2020 #62

Neither is a willingness to be realistic. Neither is compromise. Neither is... NurseJackie Feb 2020 #64

I think that kind of worldview is bad for your health. Malmsy Feb 2020 #65

FDR never referred to himself as a socialist or the New Deal as any kind of socialism. ehrnst Feb 2020 #76

Who is surprised by this? Gothmog Feb 2020 #26

Socialist and socialism positions will secure a drumpf victory democratisphere Feb 2020 #27

Yep. Sorry. But that's how it'll be. calimary Feb 2020 #29

Now that primary season is heating up, the scare tactics are now arriving before 7:30am EST. LonePirate Feb 2020 #28

This whole thread seems to be pushing the Socialist label LakeArenal Feb 2020 #31

Correct Perseus Feb 2020 #32

Yes! Much better to ignore the problem and pretend it doesn't exist... brooklynite Feb 2020 #37

Yes, and we can certainly depend on you. LakeArenal Feb 2020 #38

Reality sucks... brooklynite Feb 2020 #39

Your reality seems to suck. LakeArenal Feb 2020 #40

My reality is that I see the OPs perspective as realistic... brooklynite Feb 2020 #42

Sure you bet. Whatever you say. LakeArenal Feb 2020 #48

Confusing reality with one's own opinions is a flawed method of LanternWaste Feb 2020 #51

What in my opinion is unrealistic? I really want to know. brooklynite Feb 2020 #53

"Don't vote for Candidate X, because the GOP will say mean things" is a loser strategy Tarc Feb 2020 #43

Well then we all need to just pack it in ibegurpard Feb 2020 #50

I can't speak for "most..." mike_c Feb 2020 #54

Only 45% of voters would even consider voting for a socialist. 53% say no Gothmog Feb 2020 #57

Poll: Americans Won't Vote for a Socialist Gothmog Feb 2020 #58

"Sanders is the only clear non-starter...A Sanders candidacy simply guarantees a Trump second term." Gothmog Feb 2020 #66

Rec.. Cha Feb 2020 #70

K&R Scurrilous Feb 2020 #68

Pretty straight-forward. nt BootinUp Feb 2020 #69

Sanders would kill down ballot candidates Gothmog Feb 2020 #71

Thank you! Cha Feb 2020 #75

+100000 Pachamama Feb 2020 #77

Post removed Post removed Feb 2020 #79

Enjoy your stay. marble falls Feb 2020 #82

Texas Democrars are worried that sanders would kill down ballot candidates Gothmog Feb 2020 #84

Nominate Bernie to re-elect Trump. It's that simple. Gothmog Feb 2020 #85

Here is an ad being runned by the Grandson of GHW Bush attacking socialism Gothmog Feb 2020 #86