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Drunken Irishman

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2. It'll backfire for that very reason.
Wed Apr 3, 2019, 01:24 AM
Apr 2019

At work, a woman I work with, who's pretty conservative and does NOT like Joe Biden, mentioned it. I thought she'd ream him but... she didn't. She thought it was ridiculous and silly. It won't change her into a Biden supporter, but I was surprised.

I think people going hard on Biden about this are going to regret it because a good amount of people are turned off by the attacks and, to many, it seems needless and over the top. We'll see ... but either way, good that the attacks come out now as opposed to a year from now.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
It makes me sick exboyfil Apr 2019 #1
It'll backfire for that very reason. Drunken Irishman Apr 2019 #2
Most Democrats True Blue American Apr 2019 #4
Oh, but the third says he touched her thigh and hugged her too long, and the fourth said LongtimeAZDem Apr 2019 #5
It will not come from me. True Blue American Apr 2019 #6
Can you say who? So curious :) Laura PourMeADrink Apr 2019 #93
Nina Turner True Blue American Apr 2019 #119
Interesting Laura PourMeADrink Apr 2019 #121
As I posted True Blue American Apr 2019 #122
This is a quote on Biden from Caitlyn Caruso, April 27, 2016.. Cha Apr 2019 #9
She was a freshman in college when she said that, and it was shortly after the incident. pnwmom Apr 2019 #13
Just quoting what she said. I wasn't around when Cha Apr 2019 #15
I think Biden could solve this problem simply by offering a real apology, pnwmom Apr 2019 #16
No he can't because it's a bullshit trap LongtimeAZDem Apr 2019 #19
and they would not accept the apology anyway treestar Apr 2019 #23
No, it wouldn't. I'm talking about one that acknowledges and accepts that he made someone pnwmom Apr 2019 #31
Again, "If P then Q" is logically equivalent to "All P are Q". LongtimeAZDem Apr 2019 #35
There were exactly ZERO "ifs" in my sentence. Read it again: pnwmom Apr 2019 #39
I won't explain it again LongtimeAZDem Apr 2019 #41
Show me the "if." There isn't one. n/t pnwmom Apr 2019 #42
Well said. guillaumeb Apr 2019 #78
Instead of True Blue American Apr 2019 #120
Supports another candidate. And what kind evil person does this ? Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #22
And the we lose in 20 20. Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #59
I don't think we should be diminishing the accusations of these women who come forward InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #75
Perfect to empower Trump IluvPitties Apr 2019 #3
Trump knows he needs Pennsylvania to win in 2020 Jarqui Apr 2019 #7
I suspect this is coming from a "Democrat" Freddie Apr 2019 #8
It does the multipurpose service of Bettie Apr 2019 #46
I hope he hangs on like Northam and Fairfax. This has to end. Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #58
10 years after the fact Rhiannon12866 Apr 2019 #10
The #metoo movement has made a lot of women rethink male behavior pnwmom Apr 2019 #14
And they need to grow up; men have put up with all kinds of uncomfortable female behavior LongtimeAZDem Apr 2019 #20
And that is the same. PEOPLE shouldn't be grabbing each other outside of a personal relationship.nt pnwmom Apr 2019 #29
So you tell them, then and there. You don't make a federal case out of it years later. LongtimeAZDem Apr 2019 #30
This is not me too. In fact it will destroy me too. Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #24
Yes it will. comradebillyboy Apr 2019 #69
The me too movement is done. Political attacks have destroyed it. Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #57
Maybe because we need to nominate the candidate with the best chance of defeating InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #52
So, do you really think that Sen. Sanders won't be attacked? Bettie Apr 2019 #61
I can bring up Bernie's questionable essays and his refusal to comradebillyboy Apr 2019 #71
Exactly, they will find something on Bettie Apr 2019 #73
It's really Important to be Balanced about These Situations IndianaDave Apr 2019 #11
Why doesn't he just say: "To anyone I've made uncomfortable, I'm sorry"? pnwmom Apr 2019 #17
That would be ideal. I wish he would say those exact words. He may, yet! IndianaDave Apr 2019 #18
that will be called a non-apology "I'm sorry if you were uncomfortable" treestar Apr 2019 #25
Exactly LongtimeAZDem Apr 2019 #27
Where was the word "if"? I said, "To anyone I have made uncomfortable." That would be accepting pnwmom Apr 2019 #28
"If P then Q" is logically equivalent to "All P are Q" LongtimeAZDem Apr 2019 #34
Good God is right. "If" is not equivalent to "To all." pnwmom Apr 2019 #43
It is straight out of logic class LongtimeAZDem Apr 2019 #44
But I never said the word IF. n/t pnwmom Apr 2019 #47
The statements are equivalent. I'm done trying to teach you comprehension. Adieu LongtimeAZDem Apr 2019 #48
Or men, if any were made uncomfortable by it treestar Apr 2019 #50
The only pic I've seen like that was a Photoshop. Got a link? LongtimeAZDem Apr 2019 #55
Biden is not one of my BlueMTexpat Apr 2019 #12
This is a minefield for Biden. tinrobot Apr 2019 #21
That's why we should go for the "squeaky clean" candidate... InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #51
Squeaky clean? Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #56
Yes... certainly compared to Joe. InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #60
No. He will lose ,and I won't post dirt about any candidate but there is plenty. Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #64
Nope, Bernie will win...easily!! Ever wonder why anyone would believe ANYTHING the Liar-in-Chief InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #65
He won't win a general. But I don't believe he can win the primary anyway...negatives Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #67
You got to win the primary first...have you seen his negatives? Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #68
True... not saying Bernie is perfect. But, he certainly has less negatives than many of the other InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #70
I have not seen Biden's negatives. Did you see they want to end birthright citizenship? If Trump Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #77
I see where you're coming from... but, seriously, you haven't seen Joe's negatives? InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #86
No I haven't he has been ahead but I think it is early for all of them. Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #88
Okay, fair enough... not sure if that's really so much outcome determinative... InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #90
Perhaps a woman would be an even better candidate. tinrobot Apr 2019 #82
I agree, which is why Elizabeth is my #2 choice... she'd be AWESOME!! InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #85
Like someone who doesn't hesitate or stall to release tax returns? nt BlueFlorida Apr 2019 #96
Bernie has confirmed what I've been saying... he'll supplement the release of his 2014 tax return InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #97
What is stopping him from releasing 2009-2017? BlueFlorida Apr 2019 #98
First of all, NOT all...second, Bernie obviously doesn't want to release his tax returns piecemeal. InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #100
Bernie does not want to release them until he has been nominated. GemDigger Apr 2019 #107
I agree with you COMPLETELY that it would be too late by then... it would not be acceptable InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #108
When asked by Jake Tapper why he didn't in 2016, he said this GemDigger Apr 2019 #109
He released only one return before BlueFlorida Apr 2019 #110
The fact is, no matter what Bernie does, some will NEVER be satisfied... InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #113
He is never going to become our nominee BlueFlorida Apr 2019 #116
Haha, famous last words... guess we'll see!! InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #117
Bernie is not "squeaky clean". He hasn't touched anyone GemDigger Apr 2019 #104
Yes, I was referring to the fact that Bernie's never been accused of any impropriety with women. InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #105
You will be disappointed. A lot of stuff came out about his actions in 2016 GemDigger Apr 2019 #106
Not to mention the esssays BlueFlorida Apr 2019 #111
And a list of about 25 questionable things. GemDigger Apr 2019 #112
Perfect GOP candidate? Against the admitted pussy grabber? Please. dem4decades Apr 2019 #103
Joe Biden is the most electable candidate that the Democratic Party has available Gothmog Apr 2019 #26
Thread Winner! nt COLGATE4 Apr 2019 #32
Joe is one of the Democrats who trump fears the most Gothmog Apr 2019 #33
that's based on polls that include republicans and other trolls bigtree Apr 2019 #37
You think JOE is "targeted" by those who are afraid?! By that logic, Bernie is BY FAR InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #66
LOL-From the Washington Post Gothmog Apr 2019 #74
"LOL - From the Washington Post"... that's for sure!! That's all you need InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #79
sanders is not electable in the real world Gothmog Apr 2019 #83
Great, so Bernie is being vetted, unfairly by some, and, yet, he's still at the top of the polls. InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #84
Many real democrats have long memories Gothmog Apr 2019 #87
Maybe you're right... I doubt it, but, either way, here's an idea!!... InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #91
I am happy to wait in large part it will be fun Gothmog Apr 2019 #114
Post removed Post removed Apr 2019 #36
The women with the BS stories have now destroyed me too, Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #62
But those aren't the only feelings. WeekiWater Apr 2019 #38
That it might backfire in no way mitigates the contemptible nature of the smear. LongtimeAZDem Apr 2019 #40
Fully agree. NT WeekiWater Apr 2019 #45
I like this statement by Joe Biden Gothmog Apr 2019 #49
I saw the video the Pro-Trump group is about to release. Kanoko Apr 2019 #53
Any GOP ad will simply be recut with Trump pics and statments and re-released. I'll backfire LongtimeAZDem Apr 2019 #54
While their guy raped a 13 tear old girl. Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #63
Absolutely. Lets don't eat our own candidates when the worst one of all tries to get by... SWBTATTReg Apr 2019 #80
Trump is a pig. Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #81
I saw it too... seemed more than a lil extreme, but, worried how the average voter will react to it. InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #72
This is how the average voter will react BlueFlorida Apr 2019 #99
Possibly. InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #101
Washington Post-Opinion: After his video, Biden may come out even stronger Gothmog Apr 2019 #76
Thanks for this, Goth Cha Apr 2019 #94
It's also turning into an effective way to minimize the MeToo movement as well. LanternWaste Apr 2019 #89
The smears didn't work BlueFlorida Apr 2019 #92
It's actually a very bad weapon. joshcryer Apr 2019 #95
this will backfire on them..his polls are going up already... samnsara Apr 2019 #102
Joe Biden is a honestly decent human being Gothmog Apr 2019 #115
In Defense of Joe Biden: A Hug When I Needed One Gothmog Apr 2019 #118
Early State Democrats Stand With Biden As Touching Scandal Falls Flat Gothmog Apr 2019 #123
This so-called scandal/hit job failed Gothmog Apr 2019 #124
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