Democratic Primaries

customerserviceguy

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64. Bloomberg's got his downsides

Wed Feb 12, 2020, 01:17 PM

Feb 2020

He's been derided as a nanny-stater and as a gun grabber. That won't play too well in the blue wall states we lost in 2016.

If it comes down to "our NYC billionaire is better than your NYC billionaire", we just might well lose that argument. Don't get me wrong, I still think that Buttigieg and Klobuchar are viable candidates, but we have to see where they go in Nevada before handicapping their chances in South Carolina.

Steyer's made a play for the farm vote in SC, one of his ads features a white farmer who wants somebody who will beat Trump. If indeed, there are people in rural communities who felt burned by Trump's game of "chicken" on Chinese trade, they may warm up to a man who has worked with California farmers to get nutritious food to schoolchildren there without involving Big Agriculture.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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If Bloomberg is a racist why are prominent African Americans who know him best endorsing him? [View all] DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2020 OP

If Trump is a racist why do Candace Owens and Ben Shapiro endorse him? IronLionZion Feb 2020 #1

Are you comparing Gregory Meeks to Candace Owewns and Ben Shapiro DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2020 #5

Do you think it possible to endorse a candidate while disagreeing on policy? IronLionZion Feb 2020 #6

Policy disagreements DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2020 #7

Stop and Frisk was only one policy of Mayor Bloomberg. He was mayor for 12 years and accomplished... George II Feb 2020 #9

Good point. DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2020 #10

Ummmm, no Bloomberg is stop and frisk NOW and says it was overused vs saying it shouldn't been uponit7771 Feb 2020 #25

Bloomberg's plan to address systematic discrimination. honest.abe Feb 2020 #34

That doesn't answer my question about his stance on stop and frisk now. He says it was overused uponit7771 Feb 2020 #38

He has apologized repeatedly. honest.abe Feb 2020 #48

Saying it was "overused" is not an apology that's an excuse and room to use it in the future and uponit7771 Feb 2020 #50

"However today, I want you to know that I realize back then I was wrong." honest.abe Feb 2020 #56

By itself of maybe but you and I know that statement isn't by itself, it was "overused" uponit7771 Feb 2020 #60

Well, I understand and appreciate what you are saying.. honest.abe Feb 2020 #63

I have a family, I can't afford to trust Bloomberg on this issue uponit7771 Feb 2020 #65

Understand. honest.abe Feb 2020 #71

The policy was meant to be used as widely and aggressively as possible. It was an expansion and emmaverybo Feb 2020 #66

+1, looks like Bloomberg also fought restitution to CP5 for some reason. I don't have uponit7771 Feb 2020 #68

He is not a racist. Demsrule86 Feb 2020 #2

Plus, as of this morning Lucy McBath and Gregory Meeks have endorsed him. George II Feb 2020 #3

Bloomberg is one our most viable candidates with a proven track record. democratisphere Feb 2020 #4

That is it. Demsrule86 Feb 2020 #12

Really? cherryinpa Feb 2020 #29

Progressive socialism and socialists will NOT win THIS fight; democratisphere Feb 2020 #39

OK cherryinpa Feb 2020 #51

This message was self-deleted by its author democratisphere Feb 2020 #39

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Bloomberg is not racist. Demsrule86 Feb 2020 #52

He just does and says racist shit ?! America deserves more explanation from him uponit7771 Feb 2020 #69

Because he is a decent guy with good intentions.. honest.abe Feb 2020 #8

Look, I mean those particular comments were only 5 years ago ProfessorPlum Feb 2020 #13

I trust the guy that he is who he says he is now. honest.abe Feb 2020 #15

I don't think he is a racist. redstateblues Feb 2020 #16

all evidence to the contrary be damned ProfessorPlum Feb 2020 #19

He might not be the most woke candidate but I don't believe he's racist. DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2020 #18

wow ProfessorPlum Feb 2020 #21

Is racism binary or is it like sexuality? DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2020 #30

Not sure if he's racist or not, but ForEverGlades Feb 2020 #33

$$$$ ? ProfessorPlum Feb 2020 #11

Are you suggesting Lucy McBath and Gregory Meeks have been bought? DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2020 #14

I don't know how fillthy it is ProfessorPlum Feb 2020 #17

If he can dump enough money into the district* to re-elect her, I'm all for it.... George II Feb 2020 #27

Bloomberg does have a history of paying people for favorable comments about him. Quackers Feb 2020 #28

Money talks. n/t Skya Rhen Feb 2020 #45

There is a lot of nervousness about Bloomberg amongst the Sanders/Warren wingers redstateblues Feb 2020 #22

If we need a billionaire customerserviceguy Feb 2020 #47

He is not as good at winning as Bloomberg . Demsrule86 Feb 2020 #54

Bloomberg's got his downsides customerserviceguy Feb 2020 #64

Everyone has their downsides... Demsrule86 Feb 2020 #76

I think too many people here customerserviceguy Feb 2020 #78

groundswell is a funny word for "huge ad buy" ProfessorPlum Feb 2020 #79

Whistling past the graveyard. You made my point redstateblues Feb 2020 #81

Black people endorsed Trump, this isn't saying much uponit7771 Feb 2020 #20

Because "prominent African Americans" are not the ones directly affected by Bloomberg's racist WhiskeyGrinder Feb 2020 #23

THANK YOU !!! uponit7771 Feb 2020 #26

because young, white "progressives" haven't progsplained things to them? wyldwolf Feb 2020 #24

Progsplained HarlanPepper Feb 2020 #37

defined: wyldwolf Feb 2020 #49

Let me finish that dialog for you. CrispyQ Feb 2020 #59

Black folks (really all folks) have had to endorse racists for access to power for a long time. aikoaiko Feb 2020 #31

Yep. We live in a white supremacy. Candidates are going to reflect that. WhiskeyGrinder Feb 2020 #35

Yeah, candidates shouldn't celebrate endorsements from Joe Rogan... Demsrule86 Feb 2020 #57

Agreed. WhiskeyGrinder Feb 2020 #58

I assume POC want to get rid of Trump as much as white people patricia92243 Feb 2020 #32

If it's Bloomberg vs. Trump it's an easy choice for people of any color. hay rick Feb 2020 #36

"I assume POC want to get rid of Trump as much as white people..." DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2020 #43

lol - I'd have to give that some thought but you are right. patricia92243 Feb 2020 #46

Makes so much sense.... ForEverGlades Feb 2020 #55

Joe Rogan has proud boys on his show...how many new recruits? Demsrule86 Feb 2020 #61

Who's Joe Rogan? ForEverGlades Feb 2020 #72

A racist homophobic pod caster with a big following who endorsed Sanders and Sanders then Demsrule86 Feb 2020 #74

Gotcha, but ForEverGlades Feb 2020 #80

The point is no candidate will ever be perfect...but all are fine with me if they can get elected... Demsrule86 Feb 2020 #86

Because he will beatTrump. Demsrule86 Feb 2020 #62

This message was self-deleted by its author DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2020 #43

I would say because they want to win. Baked Potato Feb 2020 #53

Al Sharpton Raised a valid point... brooklynite Feb 2020 #67

Go back and watch that segment on Morning Joe. He never called Joe's name - I listened to the same Skya Rhen Feb 2020 #73

Sharpton didn't say that "some" of the others did... brooklynite Feb 2020 #75

Black voters tend to be pragmatic. They know it's probably either Bloomberg or Trump at this point. Squinch Feb 2020 #70

Reverend Al was saying as much on MSNBC. n/t cynatnite Feb 2020 #82

I am not thrilled about the truth of it, but it is the truth. So if he makes a showing Squinch Feb 2020 #83

Michael Nutter endorsed him too. cwydro Feb 2020 #77

He said racist things, and took very racist actions Bradical79 Feb 2020 #84

they don't live in the stop and frisk areas n/t KayF Feb 2020 #85