Democratic Primaries

bucolic_frolic

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36. Agree with that one

Wed Feb 12, 2020, 02:42 PM

Feb 2020

These far left ideas don't play well in ordinary suburbs and family communities. I still think HRC would be President today if Obama had tabled same sex bathrooms til he left office. That policy alarmed a LOT of Americans. It was tone deaf not to go slow.

The left is and always has been historically for young educated people. They don't have a lot invested in houses, possessions. They like debt forgiveness, easy money, free things. 50-somethings don't want to pay for that with what they've worked for. It's just the nature of demographics.

If Republicans successful tar and feather the Democratic candidate as Socialist! it is a hop-skip-jump from "Obama is coming for your guns!" to "Bernie is coming for your refrigerator and all that's in it!"

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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IF a centrist is nominated Trump will win a second term [View all] booley Feb 2020 OP

We can talk about the GE when candidates like Sanders shows they can win the nomination. Kaleva Feb 2020 #1

No we need to discuss this now booley Feb 2020 #6

The focus this year for many seems to be a candidate that can beat Trump Kaleva Feb 2020 #33

"If they can't win the nomination , why discuss the chances of winning the GE" wyldwolf Feb 2020 #7

its a bit ironic, dont you think? booley Feb 2020 #9

Because he has experience, a solid record, and he understands Trump's character flaws bucolic_frolic Feb 2020 #24

Because Biden is seen as less than a threat of "leftism" than others. oldsoftie Feb 2020 #41

We should focus on turning out Dems, and not worry about converting disaffected 45 voters. LonePirate Feb 2020 #47

I'm betting folding money that's simply another fiction you cast from nothing. LanternWaste Feb 2020 #48

LOL... what's your point? LaurenOlimina Feb 2020 #25

You'll see more centrists winning the GE then progressives. Kaleva Feb 2020 #38

let's go back further than that wyldwolf Feb 2020 #57

study history much? wyldwolf Feb 2020 #55

Convenient when you blame progressives TheFarseer Feb 2020 #64

well, that was a well thought-out response. wyldwolf Feb 2020 #66

Fine! TheFarseer Feb 2020 #92

So, the losing centrist nominees in '68, '80, '00 and '16... LaurenOlimina Feb 2020 #71

Every cycle is unique and Hillary Clinton isn't running. TwilightZone Feb 2020 #2

telling me things have changed isnt' an answer booley Feb 2020 #8

Asserting that they haven't is pretty clearly inaccurate. TwilightZone Feb 2020 #14

You're forgetting the elephant in the room no one likes to admit oldsoftie Feb 2020 #46

Hillary was vilified by the Republicans for years. We're not nominating Hillary this time. dem4decades Feb 2020 #3

And I think if your guy gets the nom, we will get pasted. Happy Hoosier Feb 2020 #4

not even remotely relevant to my question booley Feb 2020 #11

You've heard it all before. Happy Hoosier Feb 2020 #56

Actually what we need is a candidate who bucolic_frolic Feb 2020 #5

I think a progressive can win, just not Bernie Fresh_Start Feb 2020 #10

This is a good post. Mike 03 Feb 2020 #15

Why did you even respond? booley Feb 2020 #17

because the OP suggested that no centrist can win Fresh_Start Feb 2020 #23

Election Sabotage bucolic_frolic Feb 2020 #18

Everyone is entitled to an opinion left-of-center2012 Feb 2020 #12

That wasnt' my opinion. It was a question booley Feb 2020 #19

Everyone is entitled to a question left-of-center2012 Feb 2020 #43

But, but, but................ PatSeg Feb 2020 #85

You know, there actually is an argument for this. Mike 03 Feb 2020 #13

A "centrist" beat Trump by 3,000,000 votes and lost the Electoral College ny 77,000 votes. DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2020 #16

Remind me, whos sitting in the White HOuse? booley Feb 2020 #20

Freed from the shackles of Russia, Comey, and thirty years of political baggage DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2020 #32

George McGovern? Al Smith? bucolic_frolic Feb 2020 #42

You named a "radical" and two "centrists" who lost. DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2020 #49

I consider them all left of center for one reason or another. bucolic_frolic Feb 2020 #58

William Jennings Bryant was a populist. DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2020 #61

Did it ever occur to you that Clinton's problem in 2016 was that she ran too far to the left? Recursion Feb 2020 #21

No becuase she didn't booley Feb 2020 #29

She ran on the most progressive platform in history. TwilightZone Feb 2020 #63

It is insanity to think the electorate is where AOC is. INSANITY. EveHammond13 Feb 2020 #22

They seem to think the country is Vermont HarlanPepper Feb 2020 #26

Agree with that one bucolic_frolic Feb 2020 #36

HRC lost because 80k rust belt blue collars stayed home or voted R Doremus Feb 2020 #80

This is true PatSeg Feb 2020 #86

I think Harris would have been a clear favorite. Probably Booker, too. Beyond that, I agree. Garrett78 Feb 2020 #27

I so agree with you about Kamala Harris Mike 03 Feb 2020 #31

So so far no one seems able to answer my question booley Feb 2020 #28

There's something here: Mike 03 Feb 2020 #35

yeah the trump people we wanna attract are really gonna vote for bs? samnsara Feb 2020 #30

Enthusiasm means nothing Awsi Dooger Feb 2020 #34

There have been academic studies of what would change "if everybody voted"? DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2020 #65

Post removed Post removed Feb 2020 #37

Just to be clear Hillary would have easily won in 2016.. honest.abe Feb 2020 #39

+1000 NT Fresh_Start Feb 2020 #40

+1 betsuni Feb 2020 #87

It does not follow (affirming a disjunct). LanternWaste Feb 2020 #44

It is shocking to me how much dislike of Bernie is driving decision making on DU Saviolo Feb 2020 #45

Many DUers want to replace 45 but change little else in DC. Hence the hatred of Sanders (and Warren) LonePirate Feb 2020 #50

Public approval of the economy is at a 20-year high Recursion Feb 2020 #74

By all means, let's not tinker with a growing economy even though millions are suffering now. LonePirate Feb 2020 #78

Yes, that is what voters will say, precisely Recursion Feb 2020 #79

Or, as Democrats, we should prioritize helping people regardless of what the economy is doing. LonePirate Feb 2020 #82

Bernie has no chance vs trump awesomerwb1 Feb 2020 #54

The Democratic ticket will win as long as it isn't two white people. Bok_Tukalo Feb 2020 #51

Answer me this awesomerwb1 Feb 2020 #52

This message was self-deleted by its author denem Feb 2020 #53

Good thing we don't actually HAVE centrists running. Amimnoch Feb 2020 #59

the DU definition of centrist is usually "to the right of che guevara." wyldwolf Feb 2020 #67

Thank you PatSeg Feb 2020 #88

"If a centrist is nominated and every single Democrat doesn't vote for them, [Redacted] will... TygrBright Feb 2020 #60

Hillary lost in 2016 primarily because people were tired of the Clintons Yavin4 Feb 2020 #62

I agree and have for some time but ... jimlup Feb 2020 #68

If people don't vote for WHOEVER is the nominee Runningdawg Feb 2020 #69

lol Loki Liesmith Feb 2020 #70

IF I see another parity post I'm gonna... tandem5 Feb 2020 #72

Hopefully Sanders' supporters won't protest his primary loss like they did in 2016. We'll see. Hoyt Feb 2020 #73

If Sanders hangs on until the convention and loses.. honest.abe Feb 2020 #75

Well, 12% of his supporters in 2016 voted Trump eilen Feb 2020 #97

Please define "centrist." All of the candidates are liberals, so who are these "centrists" The Velveteen Ocelot Feb 2020 #76

Thank you! Just_Vote_Dem Feb 2020 #84

Exactly! PatSeg Feb 2020 #90

I completely agree. Bernie is clearly the best matchup head to head vs Trump. CowboyProgressive Feb 2020 #77

Because so goes Maine, so goes the nation. Hahahahahahahahahahahaha! marble falls Feb 2020 #83

Welcome to DU! mahina Feb 2020 #93

I'm convinced only Mike Bloomberg can beat him njhoneybadger Feb 2020 #81

sanders is a weak candidate and there is some great material from trump to use Gothmog Feb 2020 #89

Yet every time a Democrat won in the last 75 years is when the nominee was a moderate/centrist Dem4Life1102 Feb 2020 #91

This message was self-deleted by its author ahoysrcsm Feb 2020 #94

I don't see any "Centrist" running in the Democratic Primary. I see many "Progressive" candidates. ahoysrcsm Feb 2020 #95

If we nominate a ham sandwich we will beat Trumps ass MoonlitKnight Feb 2020 #96

You forgot to add...... whistler162 Feb 2020 #98

What's a "centrist"? betsuni Feb 2020 #99