Democratic Primaries
In reply to the discussion: Harris: 'I believe' Biden accusers [View all]chowder66
(9,055 posts)How does that compare to a child who is sexually molested for years or a woman who is raped?
This is about personal space and personal discomforts.
As an adult she has had every opportunity to state her discomfort to that person. Others who go through much more 'discomfort' or violence do NOT have that opportunity much of the time. There is nothing violent about Biden. He's been doing this his whole life. Is he overly affectionate? To some, obviously; but not to most, otherwise there would be a cascade of reports. And if that cascade is him comforting or greeting people too affectionally it still doesn't meet the bar of assault.
There are some people I wish didn't touch me and there are others I don't mind. No one can read my mind. If I'm uncomfortable, I either say something, stay away or grumble about it to friends. Sometimes it even makes a weird story. But I don't think of people who don't know personal social boundaries of every person they engage with as creeps or perverts unless there is more to it.
Some may actually be creepy ...but so are those that never encroach on someone's space. Adults really need to speak up or make arrangements to avoid further discomfort and if they can't they need to talk to someone who can help them or do it for them.
There has also been a movement in the past about men opening doors for women that didn't want them too. Well I for one thinks it's courteous and open the door for everyone if I'm at the door first. Should anyone who did this that's running apologize for that?
I'm really frustrated by the gnashing of teeth over this. It's just not the same thing and should not be lumped in with the Me Too Movement.
It's just gone too far in my opinion and as a survivor I'm getting really angry about this as some sort of "survivable situation'.
'This' is human interaction and it's not always comfortable or perfect. If you tell someone you were or are uncomfortable, most people will listen and apologize. Many people also appreciate affection, I don't know a lot of people who think a lack of affection is a virtue. Interacting with people can be messy but this isn't one of those things that should be elevated to the level of crisis.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden