Democratic Primaries

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82. Free MFA isn't promising? Oh, wait, it's not free, huge tax increases come with that.

Thu Feb 13, 2020, 01:40 AM

Feb 2020

That'll surely go over well.

On the GE campaign trail where he'll surely be pressed to answer how he'll pay for it, which he couldn't during his disastrous 2015 interview with the NY Daily News, what will he say?

It's been five years and he still doesn't have an answer for that.

Call it right-wing framing if you want, but those questions will come up.

Let's stop fooling ourselves.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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The kids like Bernie Maybe Everyone else should listen.. [View all] Indepatriot Feb 2020 OP

Little girls love Elizabeth Warren... Blue_playwright Feb 2020 #1

Wait, are you actually promoting giving kids "pocket food"?.... Indepatriot Feb 2020 #4

Grandpa pocket candy is the best! Blue_playwright Feb 2020 #112

Be better if they actually turned out to vote, though relayerbob Feb 2020 #2

Agreed. But I think that Bernie has a better chance of getting them out to vote. totodeinhere Feb 2020 #6

Unfortunately relayerbob Feb 2020 #16

Sanders got more votes than any other candidate, so by your numbers I guess he isn't Indepatriot Feb 2020 #75

They didn't show up in NH. cwydro Feb 2020 #19

So Sanders won without the youth vote?!!! FANTASTIC! Indepatriot Feb 2020 #87

The Revolution has been postponed. Maybe when the kids grow up they will show up. n/t ahoysrcsm Feb 2020 #49

There's a whole lot of voting left in this race, Sanders is now the favorite in nearly all polls. Indepatriot Feb 2020 #74

About that... ahoysrcsm Feb 2020 #78

I hate to start another debate at this hour, but: "Chocolate Chip or Peanut Butter"?!!! Indepatriot Feb 2020 #80

Pepperidge Farm Nantuckets, please hangaleft Feb 2020 #92

NO! showblue22 Feb 2020 #3

They are the future, so take them for granted at our peril... Indepatriot Feb 2020 #7

I don't believe Bernie can bring them what they want. showblue22 Feb 2020 #9

So you're saying you know better than they do....that'll win them over for sure. Indepatriot Feb 2020 #10

Yep. That's what I am saying. showblue22 Feb 2020 #12

Well, I'm 58, cut my campaign teeth knocking doors for Mondale, Indepatriot Feb 2020 #15

And didn't Mondale turn out to be a great President? BlueIdaho Feb 2020 #22

I was doing exactly what everyone one here is supposed to do. There's even a rule here about it... Indepatriot Feb 2020 #24

No - what's horrible BlueIdaho Feb 2020 #26

So calling you on your assertions of your own judgmental superiority over young Democrats Indepatriot Feb 2020 #30

No me BlueIdaho Feb 2020 #32

I'm sincerely interested in what you feel I've said on this thread that's disrespectful to anyone. Indepatriot Feb 2020 #35

Ex #1 Consciously casting someone's words as something wholly other than what they LanternWaste Feb 2020 #110

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Indepatriot Feb 2020 #111

So you get your umbrage all puffed up ChubbyStar Feb 2020 #40

Knowledge of past elections count(McGover), as does experience. Idealistic young voters... brush Feb 2020 #62

The Republicans called HRC a socialist, and will absolutely do the same to any Democrat... Indepatriot Feb 2020 #64

Nice try, but it's true with Sanders, and there are many videos.Think i'll go with others with... brush Feb 2020 #72

Nice try with the talking points, but he isn't promising ( and we don't want ) Indepatriot Feb 2020 #76

Free MFA isn't promising? Oh, wait, it's not free, huge tax increases come with that. brush Feb 2020 #82

The facts are that the average family of 4 will save thousands with M4A, owing to no deductibles Indepatriot Feb 2020 #83

Single-payer is the future, but with Moscow Mitch it's not gonna happen. brush Feb 2020 #85

I disagree, strategy, wise. Health care is the #1 issue with voters, and big ideas inspire big Indepatriot Feb 2020 #86

MFA didn't work in 2016 and won't now as Americans still tink it's too expensive. brush Feb 2020 #89

huh Rilgin Feb 2020 #90

What does that have to do with 2018's bluewave victor which emphasized healthcare... brush Feb 2020 #115

Your quote Rilgin Feb 2020 #116

It didn't work for Sanders. He lost to Clinton. brush Feb 2020 #117

I see Rilgin Feb 2020 #118

Not re-fighting anything. Just stating that MFA is a little too far left for most of the country now brush Feb 2020 #119

That is a fair argument. I dont agree but fair and can be argued. I corrected you on 2016. (NT) Rilgin Feb 2020 #120

This is still primary time isn't it? showblue22 Feb 2020 #37

That's fine, of course. I just feel that your cavalier dismissal of young Democratic voters Indepatriot Feb 2020 #39

I haven't told them anything. showblue22 Feb 2020 #42

post #22 in response to my question,"Are you saying you know better than them?" Indepatriot Feb 2020 #46

If they want Bernie, they better get up and go vote for Bernie. showblue22 Feb 2020 #50

I want people to vote for whomever they please, without it being implied they are somehow Indepatriot Feb 2020 #53

One can't control what other people do or do not "imply," or what your impression of "implied" is. ehrnst Feb 2020 #108

You are right, I am an older single Mom ChubbyStar Feb 2020 #13

At 18, just exactly what "shit" have they had to take? cwydro Feb 2020 #20

If you honestly believe an 18-25 year-old doesn't have to take any shit Indepatriot Feb 2020 #27

Well, they better get up and go vote! showblue22 Feb 2020 #45

Interesting that you ask ChubbyStar Feb 2020 #28

Amy K? Really? jr1118x Feb 2020 #41

I'm not into labels showblue22 Feb 2020 #48

No, getting progress done is not progressive. progressoid Feb 2020 #51

I'm talking about health care showblue22 Feb 2020 #56

I remember when I was a kid calguy Feb 2020 #55

This is not 1972, Sanders isn't McGovern... Indepatriot Feb 2020 #61

And DU skews very old so maybe that's why we don't see as much support for Bernie here. totodeinhere Feb 2020 #5

Neither does Bernie. The Velveteen Ocelot Feb 2020 #31

Post removed Post removed Feb 2020 #43

Bernie is going to need the support of the so-called "establishment." The Velveteen Ocelot Feb 2020 #44

Would they really support him? jr1118x Feb 2020 #57

If they don't support him he won't win anything. The Velveteen Ocelot Feb 2020 #58

That would be true of all candidates. eom BlueWI Feb 2020 #67

If he is the nominee and they don't support him, they will be responsible for a second Trump term. Indepatriot Feb 2020 #68

He won't be the nominee without the help of the "establishment." The Velveteen Ocelot Feb 2020 #70

If he wins the support of the majority of voters, and the DNC still doesn't support him, Indepatriot Feb 2020 #73

So, both the DNC and the "mainstream establishment news" are "out to get Bernie?" ehrnst Feb 2020 #104

If he's speaking untruth's he's shitting on them, if he's truth-telling, it's debate. Indepatriot Feb 2020 #71

Ya think? BlueWI Feb 2020 #66

repeat after me, 75% of voters in Iowa and NH chose NOT bernie lol nt msongs Feb 2020 #34

That's what you get with a crowded filed like this. n/t totodeinhere Feb 2020 #60

No thank you. Zolorp Feb 2020 #8

The ones that do not go vote, just make a lot of noise? krissey Feb 2020 #11

THIS ⬆⬆ Duppers Feb 2020 #14

THIS. MontanaMama Feb 2020 #29

But, good for you doing that. I love that idea. Yea you. krissey Feb 2020 #36

voter turn out 18 - 29 y.o. up 79% since 2014 in presidential elections. Kurt V. Feb 2020 #52

Bernie is a man of the people and a man with a cause..... jcmaine72 Feb 2020 #17

Those faces intently watching him are concerned more than just about their student loans. JudyM Feb 2020 #18

Seems many just can't get behind that kind of commitment Indepatriot Feb 2020 #21

Right. Corruption isn't inevitable. JudyM Feb 2020 #23

Who exactly has "sold us an agenda of cynical lowered expectations for the last 30 years?" ehrnst Feb 2020 #94

This is a good read. Uncle Joe Feb 2020 #25

Your welcome! Esquire is one of the better sources of actual serious journalism these days... Indepatriot Feb 2020 #33

If they want him they'll turn out Codeine Feb 2020 #38

The kids don't vote in large enough numbers. brooklynite Feb 2020 #47

check this. Kurt V. Feb 2020 #54

When Sanders says things like we will see a movement, the people NoMoreRepugs Feb 2020 #59

Couldn't disagree more. Lack of faith and participation in our political system is what got us Indepatriot Feb 2020 #63

Couldn't agree more. betsuni Feb 2020 #65

I'm listening... myohmy2 Feb 2020 #69

About half as many people voted for Bernie as last time. They could have stuck with him, pnwmom Feb 2020 #77

He got more votes than any of the 8 other candidates. Indepatriot Feb 2020 #79

No, it doesn't explain why so many of his voters preferred someone else this time around. pnwmom Feb 2020 #81

To review, in a field of 8, Bernie still got more votes than any other candidate. Indepatriot Feb 2020 #84

So what? He and Biden were by far the most well known. Bernie started off with a big head start pnwmom Feb 2020 #88

.... ehrnst Feb 2020 #93

Older voters are tend to live in the real world and are more realistic... NurseJackie Feb 2020 #91

Ever wonder where that whole"OK Boomer" thing started? Indepatriot Feb 2020 #97

We are. There's no shame in being realistic and being willing to compromise... NurseJackie Feb 2020 #101

MLK on the futility of incrementalism... Indepatriot Feb 2020 #100

Better to compromise and accept half a loaf than to starve ourselves for the sake of vanity & pride. NurseJackie Feb 2020 #102

So, changing a corrupt system to make it work for the working class is "vanity and pride"....OK... Indepatriot Feb 2020 #103

That's not what I said, and you know it. NurseJackie Feb 2020 #105

That is EXACTLY what you said. Indepatriot Feb 2020 #107

No it's not, and you know it. NurseJackie Feb 2020 #109

Oh my! Gone already? Okay, well... see ya! NurseJackie Feb 2020 #113

Since when did kids get to vote? Zing Zing Zingbah Feb 2020 #95

I "think" I am a bit old to be condescendingly called a "kid", Zing Zing Zingbah Feb 2020 #96

Meh...zero life experience. HarlanPepper Feb 2020 #98

no, people should use their brains when the vote Fresh_Start Feb 2020 #99

Bingo SharonClark Feb 2020 #106

No Centrist has won the General Election in the 21st Century. OliverQ Feb 2020 #114