Democratic Primaries

MoonlitKnight

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96. If we nominate a ham sandwich we will beat Trumps ass

Thu Feb 13, 2020, 03:56 AM

Feb 2020

Quit trying to figure out who will appeal to whatever group wherever.

We win if we fight for what we believe in. People follow leaders. Pick a leader and kick his Orange ass.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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IF a centrist is nominated Trump will win a second term [View all] booley Feb 2020 OP

We can talk about the GE when candidates like Sanders shows they can win the nomination. Kaleva Feb 2020 #1

No we need to discuss this now booley Feb 2020 #6

The focus this year for many seems to be a candidate that can beat Trump Kaleva Feb 2020 #33

"If they can't win the nomination , why discuss the chances of winning the GE" wyldwolf Feb 2020 #7

its a bit ironic, dont you think? booley Feb 2020 #9

Because he has experience, a solid record, and he understands Trump's character flaws bucolic_frolic Feb 2020 #24

Because Biden is seen as less than a threat of "leftism" than others. oldsoftie Feb 2020 #41

We should focus on turning out Dems, and not worry about converting disaffected 45 voters. LonePirate Feb 2020 #47

I'm betting folding money that's simply another fiction you cast from nothing. LanternWaste Feb 2020 #48

LOL... what's your point? LaurenOlimina Feb 2020 #25

You'll see more centrists winning the GE then progressives. Kaleva Feb 2020 #38

let's go back further than that wyldwolf Feb 2020 #57

study history much? wyldwolf Feb 2020 #55

Convenient when you blame progressives TheFarseer Feb 2020 #64

well, that was a well thought-out response. wyldwolf Feb 2020 #66

Fine! TheFarseer Feb 2020 #92

So, the losing centrist nominees in '68, '80, '00 and '16... LaurenOlimina Feb 2020 #71

Every cycle is unique and Hillary Clinton isn't running. TwilightZone Feb 2020 #2

telling me things have changed isnt' an answer booley Feb 2020 #8

Asserting that they haven't is pretty clearly inaccurate. TwilightZone Feb 2020 #14

You're forgetting the elephant in the room no one likes to admit oldsoftie Feb 2020 #46

Hillary was vilified by the Republicans for years. We're not nominating Hillary this time. dem4decades Feb 2020 #3

And I think if your guy gets the nom, we will get pasted. Happy Hoosier Feb 2020 #4

not even remotely relevant to my question booley Feb 2020 #11

You've heard it all before. Happy Hoosier Feb 2020 #56

Actually what we need is a candidate who bucolic_frolic Feb 2020 #5

I think a progressive can win, just not Bernie Fresh_Start Feb 2020 #10

This is a good post. Mike 03 Feb 2020 #15

Why did you even respond? booley Feb 2020 #17

because the OP suggested that no centrist can win Fresh_Start Feb 2020 #23

Election Sabotage bucolic_frolic Feb 2020 #18

Everyone is entitled to an opinion left-of-center2012 Feb 2020 #12

That wasnt' my opinion. It was a question booley Feb 2020 #19

Everyone is entitled to a question left-of-center2012 Feb 2020 #43

But, but, but................ PatSeg Feb 2020 #85

You know, there actually is an argument for this. Mike 03 Feb 2020 #13

A "centrist" beat Trump by 3,000,000 votes and lost the Electoral College ny 77,000 votes. DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2020 #16

Remind me, whos sitting in the White HOuse? booley Feb 2020 #20

Freed from the shackles of Russia, Comey, and thirty years of political baggage DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2020 #32

George McGovern? Al Smith? bucolic_frolic Feb 2020 #42

You named a "radical" and two "centrists" who lost. DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2020 #49

I consider them all left of center for one reason or another. bucolic_frolic Feb 2020 #58

William Jennings Bryant was a populist. DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2020 #61

Did it ever occur to you that Clinton's problem in 2016 was that she ran too far to the left? Recursion Feb 2020 #21

No becuase she didn't booley Feb 2020 #29

She ran on the most progressive platform in history. TwilightZone Feb 2020 #63

It is insanity to think the electorate is where AOC is. INSANITY. EveHammond13 Feb 2020 #22

They seem to think the country is Vermont HarlanPepper Feb 2020 #26

Agree with that one bucolic_frolic Feb 2020 #36

HRC lost because 80k rust belt blue collars stayed home or voted R Doremus Feb 2020 #80

This is true PatSeg Feb 2020 #86

I think Harris would have been a clear favorite. Probably Booker, too. Beyond that, I agree. Garrett78 Feb 2020 #27

I so agree with you about Kamala Harris Mike 03 Feb 2020 #31

So so far no one seems able to answer my question booley Feb 2020 #28

There's something here: Mike 03 Feb 2020 #35

yeah the trump people we wanna attract are really gonna vote for bs? samnsara Feb 2020 #30

Enthusiasm means nothing Awsi Dooger Feb 2020 #34

There have been academic studies of what would change "if everybody voted"? DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2020 #65

Post removed Post removed Feb 2020 #37

Just to be clear Hillary would have easily won in 2016.. honest.abe Feb 2020 #39

+1000 NT Fresh_Start Feb 2020 #40

+1 betsuni Feb 2020 #87

It does not follow (affirming a disjunct). LanternWaste Feb 2020 #44

It is shocking to me how much dislike of Bernie is driving decision making on DU Saviolo Feb 2020 #45

Many DUers want to replace 45 but change little else in DC. Hence the hatred of Sanders (and Warren) LonePirate Feb 2020 #50

Public approval of the economy is at a 20-year high Recursion Feb 2020 #74

By all means, let's not tinker with a growing economy even though millions are suffering now. LonePirate Feb 2020 #78

Yes, that is what voters will say, precisely Recursion Feb 2020 #79

Or, as Democrats, we should prioritize helping people regardless of what the economy is doing. LonePirate Feb 2020 #82

Bernie has no chance vs trump awesomerwb1 Feb 2020 #54

The Democratic ticket will win as long as it isn't two white people. Bok_Tukalo Feb 2020 #51

Answer me this awesomerwb1 Feb 2020 #52

This message was self-deleted by its author denem Feb 2020 #53

Good thing we don't actually HAVE centrists running. Amimnoch Feb 2020 #59

the DU definition of centrist is usually "to the right of che guevara." wyldwolf Feb 2020 #67

Thank you PatSeg Feb 2020 #88

"If a centrist is nominated and every single Democrat doesn't vote for them, [Redacted] will... TygrBright Feb 2020 #60

Hillary lost in 2016 primarily because people were tired of the Clintons Yavin4 Feb 2020 #62

I agree and have for some time but ... jimlup Feb 2020 #68

If people don't vote for WHOEVER is the nominee Runningdawg Feb 2020 #69

lol Loki Liesmith Feb 2020 #70

IF I see another parity post I'm gonna... tandem5 Feb 2020 #72

Hopefully Sanders' supporters won't protest his primary loss like they did in 2016. We'll see. Hoyt Feb 2020 #73

If Sanders hangs on until the convention and loses.. honest.abe Feb 2020 #75

Well, 12% of his supporters in 2016 voted Trump eilen Feb 2020 #97

Please define "centrist." All of the candidates are liberals, so who are these "centrists" The Velveteen Ocelot Feb 2020 #76

Thank you! Just_Vote_Dem Feb 2020 #84

Exactly! PatSeg Feb 2020 #90

I completely agree. Bernie is clearly the best matchup head to head vs Trump. CowboyProgressive Feb 2020 #77

Because so goes Maine, so goes the nation. Hahahahahahahahahahahaha! marble falls Feb 2020 #83

Welcome to DU! mahina Feb 2020 #93

I'm convinced only Mike Bloomberg can beat him njhoneybadger Feb 2020 #81

sanders is a weak candidate and there is some great material from trump to use Gothmog Feb 2020 #89

Yet every time a Democrat won in the last 75 years is when the nominee was a moderate/centrist Dem4Life1102 Feb 2020 #91

This message was self-deleted by its author ahoysrcsm Feb 2020 #94

I don't see any "Centrist" running in the Democratic Primary. I see many "Progressive" candidates. ahoysrcsm Feb 2020 #95

If we nominate a ham sandwich we will beat Trumps ass MoonlitKnight Feb 2020 #96

You forgot to add...... whistler162 Feb 2020 #98

What's a "centrist"? betsuni Feb 2020 #99