Democratic Primaries

MH1

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104. Bloomberg is running as a Dem, the electoral map is tilted towards republicans

Thu Feb 13, 2020, 10:22 PM

Feb 2020

This is really a terrible place to be in, but we are here because not enough Dems got off their ASSES and voted for HILLARY in 2016.

Now that we are here - YES Bloomberg is better than Trump.

And NO, the risk of authoritarian government is NOT as high. Because a Democrat is more likely to be thwarted by the opposition party, and trust me, they will be trying to thwart.

As disgusting as it is to say, at this point we would have been better off if Trump had run as a Democrat. (well he wouldn't have been nominated, but you get the point)

And all that said, please, please let there be a better nominee, who can and does beat Trump.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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If Bernie Sanders gets the nomination, I will sigh [View all] MineralMan Feb 2020 OP

I just hope Dopers_Greed Feb 2020 #1

Given his recent heart attack, I doubt he will be alive to run in 2024. MineralMan Feb 2020 #6

Message auto-removed Name removed Feb 2020 #61

Ask me again when you've made 100 posts. MineralMan Feb 2020 #72

LOL. Can I Ask? DarthDem Feb 2020 #76

Sure. I think Bloomberg is running a very savvy campaign. MineralMan Feb 2020 #80

That exchange is why I always read your posts, MineralMan PJMcK Feb 2020 #90

Thanks! MineralMan Feb 2020 #114

My take and status as well DarthDem Feb 2020 #112

Bloomberg is very dangerous. Red Oak Feb 2020 #91

Sanders won't win...and if I have to choose between Bloomberg and Trump, I choose Bloomberg. Demsrule86 Feb 2020 #98

So much for Joe's electability broiles Feb 2020 #102

I am not giving up on Joe...we have two small states ...let's see what happens. But if Joe falters Demsrule86 Feb 2020 #103

Bloomberg is running as a Dem, the electoral map is tilted towards republicans MH1 Feb 2020 #104

Your post is so gloomy hangaleft Feb 2020 #113

I'm Michael Bloomberg and I approved (and paid for) this question. Red Oak Feb 2020 #78

I'd take Bloomberg over Bernie in a heart beat mchill Feb 2020 #79

You believe the only way to beat Trump is to elect a candidate just like him. Marty Marzipan Feb 2020 #88

Bloomberg isn't like Trump. Demsrule86 Feb 2020 #99

Huh? mchill Feb 2020 #115

We don't need a racist Republican as the Democratic candidate... Marty Marzipan Feb 2020 #81

I'm afraid we will wryter2000 Feb 2020 #8

It certainly doesn't translate into votes for Sanders. cab67 Feb 2020 #39

I suspect saving the party HarlanPepper Feb 2020 #29

FDR would be considered Far Left in today's politics ... aggiesal Feb 2020 #54

People here don't realize that. OliverQ Feb 2020 #57

I won't say that FDR was a Socialist ... aggiesal Feb 2020 #67

Correct, which is how I see Sanders too. OliverQ Feb 2020 #68

FDR ran at a time of severe economic wnylib Feb 2020 #86

I agree with you Red Oak Feb 2020 #92

Amen wryter2000 Feb 2020 #2

Bernie's Cabinet is what'll be my greatest concern. nt oasis Feb 2020 #10

Stephanie Kelton for Tsy Secretary? CarlitosMMT Feb 2020 #89

Chump WANTS to run against Bernie - why is that? FakeNoose Feb 2020 #46

Me, too. The Velveteen Ocelot Feb 2020 #3

You're right, of course. MineralMan Feb 2020 #12

I so hope you are right. Desert grandma Feb 2020 #97

I will vote for Bernie, too. RandySF Feb 2020 #4

if its bernie/tulsi the anxiety will skyrocket nt msongs Feb 2020 #5

Seems everyone has a unique, yet absolute knowledge of who will and who can't win. LanternWaste Feb 2020 #7

The truest of trues. /nt tonedevil Feb 2020 #11

We all have our opinions about that, yes. MineralMan Feb 2020 #14

If Sanders wins the nomination, I won't send him my money... brooklynite Feb 2020 #9

same...I will support house and senate candidates Fresh_Start Feb 2020 #13

That's a good point. MineralMan Feb 2020 #15

There are young people in every district jimfields33 Feb 2020 #22

Please back up such a ridiculous claim... brooklynite Feb 2020 #24

Wishful Thinking Horizens Feb 2020 #36

there are less-than-young voters in every district, too. cab67 Feb 2020 #40

Well I guess you haven't spent much time in Arizona. Mike 03 Feb 2020 #94

Why do people say such things? Codeine Feb 2020 #105

Obama got it. Don't see why sanders can't. We always settle for the lowest jimfields33 Feb 2020 #106

Sanders isn't Obama. Codeine Feb 2020 #107

Arizona, Maine, Kansas, 2 Georgia, North Carolina, texas, jimfields33 Feb 2020 #109

Dream big, I guess. Codeine Feb 2020 #111

It's impossible to get 67 Senators in 2020 Polybius Feb 2020 #110

Yup, we have to save the House... Demsrule86 Feb 2020 #42

I hear what you're saying, but I don't have confidence... Pacifist Patriot Feb 2020 #16

If it helps ease your mind Turin_C3PO Feb 2020 #17

The Republicans have not even begun to campaign against MineralMan Feb 2020 #18

You're probably right Turin_C3PO Feb 2020 #19

Their campaigns against Bernie don't work too well. OliverQ Feb 2020 #21

Was just going to comment on that. Butterflylady Feb 2020 #44

Yup.. Callado119 Feb 2020 #100

That's false about Warren and Pete Bradshaw3 Feb 2020 #31

No...when they unleash the two foot thick oppo on Sanders, he is toast. And that is why Demsrule86 Feb 2020 #45

Biden isn't going to beat Trump either, so do you plan on preparing for another 4 OliverQ Feb 2020 #20

"They'll" just blame Bernie and all the other candidates...like clockwork. n/t Fix The Stupid Feb 2020 #23

Biden would beat Trump by winning WI, PA and MI...an EC win. Bloomberg will beat Trump...Sanders Demsrule86 Feb 2020 #48

Sanders is beating Trump in WI, PA, and MI according to polls OliverQ Feb 2020 #53

A few unappreciated facts... NeoGreen Feb 2020 #25

In Vermont. MineralMan Feb 2020 #26

intransigent pessimisim tends to be... NeoGreen Feb 2020 #28

Ah. David Sirota. No Sale. NT Happy Hoosier Feb 2020 #27

Facts are stubborn things... NeoGreen Feb 2020 #33

Yeah.... Happy Hoosier Feb 2020 #34

FDR won 46 of 48 states in his first re-election in 1936.... SCantiGOP Feb 2020 #41

No one's challenging the facts. cab67 Feb 2020 #47

Thank you for... NeoGreen Feb 2020 #56

Such bullshit. Sirota is as always full of it. Demsrule86 Feb 2020 #49

Nice... NeoGreen Feb 2020 #58

Let me expand Leahy was elected way before Sanders...vermont was not a red red states... Demsrule86 Feb 2020 #93

Post removed Post removed Feb 2020 #30

I voted for Hillary in 2016, because I thought she had a better MineralMan Feb 2020 #32

Yeah, get used to seeing that clip.... Happy Hoosier Feb 2020 #35

+1000. ehrnst Feb 2020 #87

Bernie is literally my last choice, even behind Gabbard. But I will do the same as you. Still In Wisconsin Feb 2020 #37

I think most of us feel that way about anyone but our candidates. Nanjeanne Feb 2020 #38

Many of us see things the other way around. cab67 Feb 2020 #50

Yes many do. I don't - and thank goodness the polls also say otherwise so far. Nanjeanne Feb 2020 #52

Those polls aren't as meaningful as we might want. cab67 Feb 2020 #59

All the candidates have baggage. I've read this. I support Bernie. You don't. No worries. Nanjeanne Feb 2020 #62

I am getting tired of Debbie Downer threads! LW1977 Feb 2020 #43

I believe you can block it, if it troubles you. mac56 Feb 2020 #73

Because a lot of people have recommended it. MineralMan Feb 2020 #74

So will a lot of other people ibegurpard Feb 2020 #51

A lot of prophecy here. Why go there? BlueWI Feb 2020 #55

I will be very happy! ananda Feb 2020 #60

We all have our opinions don't we? tiredtoo Feb 2020 #63

I sighed, voted for Hillary in the GE, and got Trump in 2016. It sucks. aikoaiko Feb 2020 #64

That's the spirit! BusyBeingBest Feb 2020 #65

Where I disagree with you is your certainty that Bernie would lose. totodeinhere Feb 2020 #66

Honest Question: Is this about Bernie(and the field) or about your disappointment in Biden JDC Feb 2020 #69

After I sigh, I'll put on a Bernie tee shirt and place a sign in my yard. Politicub Feb 2020 #70

Right. krissey Feb 2020 #71

Latest Quinnipiac poll; Sanders beats trump 51 - 43 jg10003 Feb 2020 #75

Post removed Post removed Feb 2020 #84

Once Trump was elected you had to expect 8 years Awsi Dooger Feb 2020 #77

Post removed Post removed Feb 2020 #82

If he wins the nomination we will all need to stop with negative prophesies. Liberty Belle Feb 2020 #83

I don't think Bernie will be around. I am counting on Biden getting alot of votes from people onecent Feb 2020 #85

"...and vote for him in the general election,..." myohmy2 Feb 2020 #95

I will sigh and put whatever effort and money Progressive dog Feb 2020 #96

I will be preparing myself to see Democrats lose down ballot races Gothmog Feb 2020 #101

Which stage of Kubler-Ross is this? Tarc Feb 2020 #108

Same here Gothmog Feb 2020 #116

Of course, the Berners are claiming they had nothing to do with that. MineralMan Feb 2020 #117

We'd be f--ed': Texas Dems sweat a Bernie Sanders ticket Gothmog Feb 2020 #118

This stunt is disgusting Gothmog Feb 2020 #119