Democratic Primaries

OliverQ

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114. No Centrist has won the General Election in the 21st Century.

Reply to Indepatriot (Original post)

Fri Feb 14, 2020, 08:53 AM

Feb 2020

Something to keep in mind.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

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The kids like Bernie Maybe Everyone else should listen.. [View all] Indepatriot Feb 2020 OP

Little girls love Elizabeth Warren... Blue_playwright Feb 2020 #1

Wait, are you actually promoting giving kids "pocket food"?.... Indepatriot Feb 2020 #4

Grandpa pocket candy is the best! Blue_playwright Feb 2020 #112

Be better if they actually turned out to vote, though relayerbob Feb 2020 #2

Agreed. But I think that Bernie has a better chance of getting them out to vote. totodeinhere Feb 2020 #6

Unfortunately relayerbob Feb 2020 #16

Sanders got more votes than any other candidate, so by your numbers I guess he isn't Indepatriot Feb 2020 #75

They didn't show up in NH. cwydro Feb 2020 #19

So Sanders won without the youth vote?!!! FANTASTIC! Indepatriot Feb 2020 #87

The Revolution has been postponed. Maybe when the kids grow up they will show up. n/t ahoysrcsm Feb 2020 #49

There's a whole lot of voting left in this race, Sanders is now the favorite in nearly all polls. Indepatriot Feb 2020 #74

About that... ahoysrcsm Feb 2020 #78

I hate to start another debate at this hour, but: "Chocolate Chip or Peanut Butter"?!!! Indepatriot Feb 2020 #80

Pepperidge Farm Nantuckets, please hangaleft Feb 2020 #92

NO! showblue22 Feb 2020 #3

They are the future, so take them for granted at our peril... Indepatriot Feb 2020 #7

I don't believe Bernie can bring them what they want. showblue22 Feb 2020 #9

So you're saying you know better than they do....that'll win them over for sure. Indepatriot Feb 2020 #10

Yep. That's what I am saying. showblue22 Feb 2020 #12

Well, I'm 58, cut my campaign teeth knocking doors for Mondale, Indepatriot Feb 2020 #15

And didn't Mondale turn out to be a great President? BlueIdaho Feb 2020 #22

I was doing exactly what everyone one here is supposed to do. There's even a rule here about it... Indepatriot Feb 2020 #24

No - what's horrible BlueIdaho Feb 2020 #26

So calling you on your assertions of your own judgmental superiority over young Democrats Indepatriot Feb 2020 #30

No me BlueIdaho Feb 2020 #32

I'm sincerely interested in what you feel I've said on this thread that's disrespectful to anyone. Indepatriot Feb 2020 #35

Ex #1 Consciously casting someone's words as something wholly other than what they LanternWaste Feb 2020 #110

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Indepatriot Feb 2020 #111

So you get your umbrage all puffed up ChubbyStar Feb 2020 #40

Knowledge of past elections count(McGover), as does experience. Idealistic young voters... brush Feb 2020 #62

The Republicans called HRC a socialist, and will absolutely do the same to any Democrat... Indepatriot Feb 2020 #64

Nice try, but it's true with Sanders, and there are many videos.Think i'll go with others with... brush Feb 2020 #72

Nice try with the talking points, but he isn't promising ( and we don't want ) Indepatriot Feb 2020 #76

Free MFA isn't promising? Oh, wait, it's not free, huge tax increases come with that. brush Feb 2020 #82

The facts are that the average family of 4 will save thousands with M4A, owing to no deductibles Indepatriot Feb 2020 #83

Single-payer is the future, but with Moscow Mitch it's not gonna happen. brush Feb 2020 #85

I disagree, strategy, wise. Health care is the #1 issue with voters, and big ideas inspire big Indepatriot Feb 2020 #86

MFA didn't work in 2016 and won't now as Americans still tink it's too expensive. brush Feb 2020 #89

huh Rilgin Feb 2020 #90

What does that have to do with 2018's bluewave victor which emphasized healthcare... brush Feb 2020 #115

Your quote Rilgin Feb 2020 #116

It didn't work for Sanders. He lost to Clinton. brush Feb 2020 #117

I see Rilgin Feb 2020 #118

Not re-fighting anything. Just stating that MFA is a little too far left for most of the country now brush Feb 2020 #119

That is a fair argument. I dont agree but fair and can be argued. I corrected you on 2016. (NT) Rilgin Feb 2020 #120

This is still primary time isn't it? showblue22 Feb 2020 #37

That's fine, of course. I just feel that your cavalier dismissal of young Democratic voters Indepatriot Feb 2020 #39

I haven't told them anything. showblue22 Feb 2020 #42

post #22 in response to my question,"Are you saying you know better than them?" Indepatriot Feb 2020 #46

If they want Bernie, they better get up and go vote for Bernie. showblue22 Feb 2020 #50

I want people to vote for whomever they please, without it being implied they are somehow Indepatriot Feb 2020 #53

One can't control what other people do or do not "imply," or what your impression of "implied" is. ehrnst Feb 2020 #108

You are right, I am an older single Mom ChubbyStar Feb 2020 #13

At 18, just exactly what "shit" have they had to take? cwydro Feb 2020 #20

If you honestly believe an 18-25 year-old doesn't have to take any shit Indepatriot Feb 2020 #27

Well, they better get up and go vote! showblue22 Feb 2020 #45

Interesting that you ask ChubbyStar Feb 2020 #28

Amy K? Really? jr1118x Feb 2020 #41

I'm not into labels showblue22 Feb 2020 #48

No, getting progress done is not progressive. progressoid Feb 2020 #51

I'm talking about health care showblue22 Feb 2020 #56

I remember when I was a kid calguy Feb 2020 #55

This is not 1972, Sanders isn't McGovern... Indepatriot Feb 2020 #61

And DU skews very old so maybe that's why we don't see as much support for Bernie here. totodeinhere Feb 2020 #5

Neither does Bernie. The Velveteen Ocelot Feb 2020 #31

Post removed Post removed Feb 2020 #43

Bernie is going to need the support of the so-called "establishment." The Velveteen Ocelot Feb 2020 #44

Would they really support him? jr1118x Feb 2020 #57

If they don't support him he won't win anything. The Velveteen Ocelot Feb 2020 #58

That would be true of all candidates. eom BlueWI Feb 2020 #67

If he is the nominee and they don't support him, they will be responsible for a second Trump term. Indepatriot Feb 2020 #68

He won't be the nominee without the help of the "establishment." The Velveteen Ocelot Feb 2020 #70

If he wins the support of the majority of voters, and the DNC still doesn't support him, Indepatriot Feb 2020 #73

So, both the DNC and the "mainstream establishment news" are "out to get Bernie?" ehrnst Feb 2020 #104

If he's speaking untruth's he's shitting on them, if he's truth-telling, it's debate. Indepatriot Feb 2020 #71

Ya think? BlueWI Feb 2020 #66

repeat after me, 75% of voters in Iowa and NH chose NOT bernie lol nt msongs Feb 2020 #34

That's what you get with a crowded filed like this. n/t totodeinhere Feb 2020 #60

No thank you. Zolorp Feb 2020 #8

The ones that do not go vote, just make a lot of noise? krissey Feb 2020 #11

THIS ⬆⬆ Duppers Feb 2020 #14

THIS. MontanaMama Feb 2020 #29

But, good for you doing that. I love that idea. Yea you. krissey Feb 2020 #36

voter turn out 18 - 29 y.o. up 79% since 2014 in presidential elections. Kurt V. Feb 2020 #52

Bernie is a man of the people and a man with a cause..... jcmaine72 Feb 2020 #17

Those faces intently watching him are concerned more than just about their student loans. JudyM Feb 2020 #18

Seems many just can't get behind that kind of commitment Indepatriot Feb 2020 #21

Right. Corruption isn't inevitable. JudyM Feb 2020 #23

Who exactly has "sold us an agenda of cynical lowered expectations for the last 30 years?" ehrnst Feb 2020 #94

This is a good read. Uncle Joe Feb 2020 #25

Your welcome! Esquire is one of the better sources of actual serious journalism these days... Indepatriot Feb 2020 #33

If they want him they'll turn out Codeine Feb 2020 #38

The kids don't vote in large enough numbers. brooklynite Feb 2020 #47

check this. Kurt V. Feb 2020 #54

When Sanders says things like we will see a movement, the people NoMoreRepugs Feb 2020 #59

Couldn't disagree more. Lack of faith and participation in our political system is what got us Indepatriot Feb 2020 #63

Couldn't agree more. betsuni Feb 2020 #65

I'm listening... myohmy2 Feb 2020 #69

About half as many people voted for Bernie as last time. They could have stuck with him, pnwmom Feb 2020 #77

He got more votes than any of the 8 other candidates. Indepatriot Feb 2020 #79

No, it doesn't explain why so many of his voters preferred someone else this time around. pnwmom Feb 2020 #81

To review, in a field of 8, Bernie still got more votes than any other candidate. Indepatriot Feb 2020 #84

So what? He and Biden were by far the most well known. Bernie started off with a big head start pnwmom Feb 2020 #88

.... ehrnst Feb 2020 #93

Older voters are tend to live in the real world and are more realistic... NurseJackie Feb 2020 #91

Ever wonder where that whole"OK Boomer" thing started? Indepatriot Feb 2020 #97

We are. There's no shame in being realistic and being willing to compromise... NurseJackie Feb 2020 #101

MLK on the futility of incrementalism... Indepatriot Feb 2020 #100

Better to compromise and accept half a loaf than to starve ourselves for the sake of vanity & pride. NurseJackie Feb 2020 #102

So, changing a corrupt system to make it work for the working class is "vanity and pride"....OK... Indepatriot Feb 2020 #103

That's not what I said, and you know it. NurseJackie Feb 2020 #105

That is EXACTLY what you said. Indepatriot Feb 2020 #107

No it's not, and you know it. NurseJackie Feb 2020 #109

Oh my! Gone already? Okay, well... see ya! NurseJackie Feb 2020 #113

Since when did kids get to vote? Zing Zing Zingbah Feb 2020 #95

I "think" I am a bit old to be condescendingly called a "kid", Zing Zing Zingbah Feb 2020 #96

Meh...zero life experience. HarlanPepper Feb 2020 #98

no, people should use their brains when the vote Fresh_Start Feb 2020 #99

Bingo SharonClark Feb 2020 #106

No Centrist has won the General Election in the 21st Century. OliverQ Feb 2020 #114