Democratic Primaries

robbedvoter

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109. It would not just be the end of Democracy, but of the Democratic Party. As planned.

Reply to MineralMan (Original post)

Sat Feb 15, 2020, 08:07 AM

Feb 2020

It’s what Corbyn accomplished in UK.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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If Bernie Sanders Wins the Nomination, but Loses in November, [View all] MineralMan Feb 2020 OP

I doubt anyone on this board thinks "that will be OK." thesquanderer Feb 2020 #1

I don't doubt it for a moment. MineralMan Feb 2020 #2

Who now musicman65 Feb 2020 #24

Treat to Joe? MineralMan Feb 2020 #25

Appreciate musicman65 Feb 2020 #76

trump's plan DownriverDem Feb 2020 #52

Not necessarily. MineralMan Feb 2020 #61

The OP is positing a STRAWMAN ARGUEMENT. bluewater Feb 2020 #90

There you are wrong! It is not a straw-man argument Peacetrain Feb 2020 #125

I half agree here I_UndergroundPanther Feb 2020 #127

And I hope it does...If Sanders is the the nominee that Trump/GOP wants, then we should not Demsrule86 Feb 2020 #130

Not sure what this has to do with Bernie. Losing to Trump would be horrible, no matter who it is. DanTex Feb 2020 #3

You're not? MineralMan Feb 2020 #4

Easy Dude, Magoo48 Feb 2020 #51

I repeat myself with the article that is someone else's opinion, please read it. Perseus Feb 2020 #57

100% that! oasis Feb 2020 #5

Yes, Bernie will lose WhereAmerica Feb 2020 #6

Finland is not socialist, none of the EU is. Social democracy is not socialism, and has a vibrant Celerity Feb 2020 #16

Plus we need to flip the Senate to get anything done... joost5 Feb 2020 #48

Welcome to DU! PatSeg Feb 2020 #53

Not sure where you get your "facts", but here is a link on young people turning out for Bernie in NH Perseus Feb 2020 #66

NH had a strong turnout. IA mediocre at best. stopdiggin Feb 2020 #74

This message was self-deleted by its author pinkstarburst Feb 2020 #7

You do have to consider history sometimes, when it comes MineralMan Feb 2020 #8

Post removed Post removed Feb 2020 #100

thank you - a refreshing post of sanity here - n/t Locrian Feb 2020 #44

So far cilla4progress Feb 2020 #9

So far, we have nothing but results from two uncharateristic MineralMan Feb 2020 #10

This is absolutely cilla4progress Feb 2020 #27

So then this whole thread is pointless. progressoid Feb 2020 #28

Well, pretty much all threads in this forum are pointless, then. MineralMan Feb 2020 #34

Sanders has already stated his only "must" for VP is that they be "of like mind" Maru Kitteh Feb 2020 #120

Candidates don't always get to pick vp jimfields33 Feb 2020 #126

I suspect that MineralMan was not thinking of Bernie supporters who are also... Sloumeau Feb 2020 #11

There are not enough Bernie supporters who murielm99 Feb 2020 #12

Some Sanders supporters are not Democrats. MineralMan Feb 2020 #14

Bullshit. progressoid Feb 2020 #30

All you have to do is look in the murielm99 Feb 2020 #38

I suppose I should have been more speciifc. How about prove it with facts. progressoid Feb 2020 #40

There is plenty of evidence. murielm99 Feb 2020 #45

True. I was thinking more of the 10% of Sanders supporters MineralMan Feb 2020 #13

Even if he gets a smaller percentage, murielm99 Feb 2020 #15

I sure hope not. I remember seeing John Lewis being booed MineralMan Feb 2020 #17

This reply is not pointed at the OP, MineralMan tiredtoo Feb 2020 #18

How many here are paid supporters of a candidate? MineralMan Feb 2020 #26

Well I would like to think you are right tiredtoo Feb 2020 #33

I doubt that anyone in the Democratic Primary forum is really undecided. MineralMan Feb 2020 #37

I remember how GIDDY and EXCITED Susan Sarandon was at Trump's win. NurseJackie Feb 2020 #19

Indeed. I have never paid any attention to celebrity supporters of a candidate. MineralMan Feb 2020 #31

This could be a worry... Iamaartist Feb 2020 #20

I am waiting to see the results from Nevada and South Carolina MineralMan Feb 2020 #23

when sanders loses in November, we will also be crushed in House and Senate races as well beachbumbob Feb 2020 #21

Yes, that, too. MineralMan Feb 2020 #22

maybe the "same stupid mistake" would be to vote for Biden KayF Feb 2020 #29

OK. We'll see how the primaries go, won't we? MineralMan Feb 2020 #32

but THAT was not what the OP addressed stopdiggin Feb 2020 #80

Amen to that!!! Peacetrain Feb 2020 #35

If Bernie Wins but Loses in November . . . people Feb 2020 #36

Wish I could rec volstork Feb 2020 #39

If anyone ouija Feb 2020 #43

If that happens, the nation will effectively been destroyed CanonRay Feb 2020 #41

I voted for Bernie in the 2016 primary, voted for Hillary in the election. Thirties Child Feb 2020 #42

Directly to your point, here's fresh data on public views of how empathic the candidates are. JudyM Feb 2020 #110

Bloomberg has the $$$ to match Trump toe to toe, dollar for dollar, ad for ad . usaf-vet Feb 2020 #46

In my opinion, it is more probable that Bernie supporters will not support Democratic nominee... kentuck Feb 2020 #47

And if we nominate a Centrist and that Centrist loses we can blame it on Bernie, his followers, jalan48 Feb 2020 #49

+1,000 n/t MarcA Feb 2020 #56

well, except for the fact that the NUMBERS in 16 stopdiggin Feb 2020 #83

No. Over 90 million eligible voters didn't bother to vote. jalan48 Feb 2020 #97

numbers that voted 3rd party would have delivered stopdiggin Feb 2020 #115

There have always been third parties. Blaming the one and half million voters who didn't like jalan48 Feb 2020 #116

voting third party is absurd stopdiggin Feb 2020 #118

Only if you ignore 3rd party voters on the right. We Voltaire2 Feb 2020 #113

And then the next election cycle, without even a hint of embarrassment, Voltaire2 Feb 2020 #112

well, I wasn't going to rip them QUITE that much stopdiggin Feb 2020 #114

What does this have to do with Bernie? He has the best chance at beating the orange nazi. nt yaesu Feb 2020 #50

That is your opinion, read below someone else's opinion Perseus Feb 2020 #54

If Joe Biden Wins the Nomination, but Loses in November, Cuthbert Allgood Feb 2020 #55

Truth. JudyM Feb 2020 #111

I'm sure Biden will save us. He'll show up in his shining armor mounted on his steed 'cause the lutherj Feb 2020 #58

if trump* wins we wont ever have another chance to find out samnsara Feb 2020 #106

America as we know it is over for the rest of most of our lives. aeromanKC Feb 2020 #59

More perfectly innocent bandwidth bites the dust BlueWI Feb 2020 #60

+1000! KPN Feb 2020 #78

We didn't lose the last election. the_sly_pig Feb 2020 #62

Just wrote my nephew on this point heckles65 Feb 2020 #63

A friend just switched away from Bernie after ecstatic Feb 2020 #64

I would have no trouble supporting Warren at all. MineralMan Feb 2020 #65

Every candidate should point to path of victory. Meaning matchups in NV, PA, WI Laura PourMeADrink Feb 2020 #67

Absolutely. We need to think very strategically in 2020. MineralMan Feb 2020 #68

What if any other candidate wins the nomination, but loses in November? Act_of_Reparation Feb 2020 #69

The key is to focus on which of our candidates has the best MineralMan Feb 2020 #70

With all due respect, you're hedging your bets here. Act_of_Reparation Feb 2020 #73

You are correct about "We need to get rid of trump", and we do that by not bashing our own Perseus Feb 2020 #71

I have been posting what I see happening in many threads. MineralMan Feb 2020 #82

Right, I hope Sanders gets the nomination and loses all 50 states! Because then Trump can Still In Wisconsin Feb 2020 #72

I know, right? gollygee Feb 2020 #75

Oh hell I'm one hidden post away from getting suspended anyway. What's the difference? Still In Wisconsin Feb 2020 #92

Anyone here sending that message? KPN Feb 2020 #77

What is happening here is irrelevant. MineralMan Feb 2020 #85

So your OP must be irrelevant? KPN Feb 2020 #89

Yes, of course my OP is irrelevant. MineralMan Feb 2020 #91

So we must be wasting our time? KPN Feb 2020 #94

If nominee Sanders loses in November, he will be hated and reviled denem Feb 2020 #79

I watched this kind of knee-jerk fear in the run-up to the Iraq war Doremus Feb 2020 #81

Not even CLOSE to a given stopdiggin Feb 2020 #86

Then I take it you don't believe in polling. nt Doremus Feb 2020 #96

you're joking? (nt) stopdiggin Feb 2020 #99

Defeating Trump is NOT a given at all. MineralMan Feb 2020 #87

Those same shenanigans will happen no matter who our nominee is. Do you think one of our candidates Doremus Feb 2020 #95

I'm in it to win it. slumcamper Feb 2020 #84

Aint gonna happen randr Feb 2020 #88

Electing Sanders as POTUS in Fall 2020 probably would have the impact PufPuf23 Feb 2020 #93

If Bernie gets the nomination, he's not going to lose, unless every democrat would have lost due to Scotch-Irish Feb 2020 #98

No he will lose and we can win this election with a different candidate. I doubt he will ever be Demsrule86 Feb 2020 #131

Too late in this planet's cycle to "send a message" mchill Feb 2020 #101

He will lose evertonfc Feb 2020 #102

Important post. pandr32 Feb 2020 #103

Am I over reacting? Newest Reality Feb 2020 #104

if trump* wins there will never be a message again.. samnsara Feb 2020 #105

I fear that sanders would kill down ballot candidates and we could lost the house Gothmog Feb 2020 #107

Thats the MFM008 Feb 2020 #108

It would not just be the end of Democracy, but of the Democratic Party. As planned. robbedvoter Feb 2020 #109

'We'd be f--ed': Texas Dems sweat a Bernie Sanders ticket Gothmog Feb 2020 #117

So greytdemocrat Feb 2020 #119

Nope. I said nothing of the sort. MineralMan Feb 2020 #121

I've seen smaller strawmen at Burning Man LongtimeAZDem Feb 2020 #129

Sanders would kill down ballot candidates Gothmog Feb 2020 #122

Texas Democrats are worried about sanders killing down ballot candidates Gothmog Feb 2020 #123

So are Arizona Democrats. nt Mike 03 Feb 2020 #124

Yep LongtimeAZDem Feb 2020 #128