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squirecam

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21. North Korea already has nuclear weapons

Reply to Autumn (Reply #20)

Sat Feb 15, 2020, 06:38 PM

Feb 2020

So what is the point of preventing it ? It’s already happened.

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primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Sanders tells New York Times he would consider a preemptive strike against Iran or North Korea [View all] George II Feb 2020 OP

That's crazy. Maybe he didn't understand the question. emmaverybo Feb 2020 #1

That is not a comforting thought either. n/t rzemanfl Feb 2020 #4

Mini stroke? Rollo Feb 2020 #29

Didn't understand the question. Blue_true Feb 2020 #43

LOL. emmaverybo Feb 2020 #97

This message was self-deleted by its author thesquanderer Feb 2020 #6

The questions were provided in advance and the answers were submitted in writing. This wasn't.... George II Feb 2020 #7

well catsudon Feb 2020 #64

Aren't many of his followers there because of his anti-war stances? Zolorp Feb 2020 #2

Seriously? Cha Feb 2020 #3

Biden, Bloomberg, and Buttigieg also said Yes. Warren said no. Klobuchar did not answer. (n/t) thesquanderer Feb 2020 #12

Along with BS Cha Feb 2020 #14

Of course. I said "also." But you seemed incredulous that BS could say that, so I pointed out... thesquanderer Feb 2020 #17

BS agrees with JB's position. Cha Feb 2020 #18

Right, they agree with each other. So when you said "Seriously?" you didn't mean... thesquanderer Feb 2020 #22

Biden is consistent in and out of public. Blue_true Feb 2020 #45

This was for public consumption. Here's the link... thesquanderer Feb 2020 #57

Only when the Times published it. Close to two months after Blue_true Feb 2020 #62

Where do his stump speeches contradict this answer? thesquanderer Feb 2020 #69

Warmongers R Us. God! brush Feb 2020 #101

Did you hear that, Tulsi Gabbard? Time to withdraw VP consideration. oasis Feb 2020 #5

Gabbard declined to respond to the survey. George II Feb 2020 #9

Sure she didn't reply Zeus69 Feb 2020 #96

All options should be on the table LeftTurn3623 Feb 2020 #8

"Would you consider military force to pre-empt an Iranian or North Korean nuclear or missile test?" bluewater Feb 2020 #10

The point is this. Blue_true Feb 2020 #46

Hillary and Bernie both were consistent in and out of public view. thesquanderer Feb 2020 #72

why include missile strike and test in the same question? Something's fishy Kurt V. Feb 2020 #11

It doesn't say strike, it says: "nuclear or missile test", i.e., nuclear test or missile test. George II Feb 2020 #13

Your right i see. still there is no way in hell sanders would do a preempted strike on missle test. Kurt V. Feb 2020 #16

So, why did he answer yes? nt Blue_true Feb 2020 #49

this is fake news until i see a link to the Times. the question is so poorly worded professionals Kurt V. Feb 2020 #52

Here's the link thesquanderer Feb 2020 #74

Read the question again. It just says "test" and does not say "strike". The word strike... Sloumeau Feb 2020 #15

i see now. okay why include nuclear and ambiguous test in the same question? i question the article Kurt V. Feb 2020 #19

the article is from the Trotskyist communist International Committee of the Fourth International Celerity Feb 2020 #39

so this whole thread is fake news? the question is very poorly worded and isn't consistent Kurt V. Feb 2020 #44

not so much fake news as it is very slanted agitprop Celerity Feb 2020 #48

The quote is legit. The OP's posted article about it is skewed. thesquanderer Feb 2020 #75

A strike against Iran or nuclear-armed North Korea to prevent a threatened missile test or nuclear Autumn Feb 2020 #20

North Korea already has nuclear weapons squirecam Feb 2020 #21

To prevent a nuclear strike, test or otherwise against us from NK or Iran ? I'm good with it. Autumn Feb 2020 #24

So we nuke them to prevent a missle test? Even though tens of thousands of South Koreans squirecam Feb 2020 #26

"So we nuke them" BZZZT. fail. No one said to NUKE them. bluewater Feb 2020 #37

An attack on North Korea, to stop a test, would be war squirecam Feb 2020 #40

Thanks for admitting NO ONE said to NUKE them. bluewater Feb 2020 #42

Read what I wrote. squirecam Feb 2020 #47

You are still pushing a STRAWMAN argument. That is readily apparent. bluewater Feb 2020 #55

Now you sound like Bolton. RandySF Feb 2020 #102

No I sound like Bernie and Biden. They were both a yes on that question. nt Autumn Feb 2020 #103

First time in a long time I agree with you. LOL OKNancy Feb 2020 #23

Could other countries then preemptively strike the US MyNameGoesHere Feb 2020 #27

Or strike us first because they think we would strike them.... squirecam Feb 2020 #33

Y'all keep twisting the question ! left-of-center2012 Feb 2020 #25

what does the question mean to you? bc i find it confusing. a nuclear test and a missile test Kurt V. Feb 2020 #34

Would YOU bomb a country for doing a TEST ? left-of-center2012 Feb 2020 #38

a nuclear test? Pre-emptedly. yes. It's absolute insanity not to. Kurt V. Feb 2020 #41

North Korea has already done a nuclear test. Six in fact. squirecam Feb 2020 #50

Then I guess we should have bombed ... left-of-center2012 Feb 2020 #51

It's shocking how quickly people defend this squirecam Feb 2020 #54

all those countries are either allies or too big to fuck with. not the case with nk and iran Kurt V. Feb 2020 #56

Ah yes squirecam Feb 2020 #59

you nailed it. History backs you up. Kurt V. Feb 2020 #63

So that makes it right? squirecam Feb 2020 #66

nt goes in the reply title. and no Kurt V. Feb 2020 #67

Yup ... also pretty sure the US did dozens of them ... I guess the world was INSANE not to mr_lebowski Feb 2020 #58

That seems contrary to what sanders has been saying at140 Feb 2020 #28

Thank God for pills and hearing aids then. squirecam Feb 2020 #30

YEAH, especially the blue pills lol at140 Feb 2020 #105

So shouldn't other countries have the same right MyNameGoesHere Feb 2020 #31

The source of this article, WSWS, is published by ... left-of-center2012 Feb 2020 #32

So is this article fake? Disinformation? squirecam Feb 2020 #36

Nailed it...that is exactly what is so infuriuating at140 Feb 2020 #106

Calling Susan Sarandon... Susan Sarandon... HELLO? Oh, Susan! NurseJackie Feb 2020 #35

Really? BlueIdaho Feb 2020 #53

I think I'll wait to see the exact wording of the question from a reliable source before I flip out mr_lebowski Feb 2020 #60

Pretty simple question. BlueIdaho Feb 2020 #61

Assuming that's the right wording, it's a bullshit question to force a 'yes or no' answer to ... mr_lebowski Feb 2020 #87

Pffft. BlueIdaho Feb 2020 #90

Here's the link... thesquanderer Feb 2020 #85

Thanks, not going to use up one of my NYT visits for this ... are you confirming the article mr_lebowski Feb 2020 #88

Here's what it says... thesquanderer Feb 2020 #89

Thanks! I find it flabbergasting that's literally what was asked, and NOBODY (apparently) mr_lebowski Feb 2020 #91

North Korea has conducted six nuclear tests. thesquanderer Feb 2020 #92

That is an interesting non-sequitur ... (nt) mr_lebowski Feb 2020 #93

Not intended as a non-sequitur thesquanderer Feb 2020 #94

Fair enough, I don't disagree ... mr_lebowski Feb 2020 #95

If he answered no he'd be accused of being willing to allow them to have nuclear weapons. brewens Feb 2020 #65

North Korea already has nuclear weapons squirecam Feb 2020 #68

But Iran does not. And Iran was mentioned by name in the question. bluewater Feb 2020 #71

I went to their source material, which has answers from all candidates. moriah Feb 2020 #70

Remember, the question asked if they would CONSIDER such a military strike. bluewater Feb 2020 #73

Warrens answer was correct. squirecam Feb 2020 #77

The folks here taking Bernie to task over this answer should switch to Warren... thesquanderer Feb 2020 #79

+10000 bluewater Feb 2020 #80

the "yes" answer RazBerryBeret Feb 2020 #76

Here's the link... thesquanderer Feb 2020 #82

George this is fake news. Shame on you . keep em coming. :) Kurt V. Feb 2020 #78

. George II Feb 2020 #84

This doesn't sound right democrattotheend Feb 2020 #81

Here's the link... thesquanderer Feb 2020 #83

Yes is the only answer. Steelrolled Feb 2020 #86

Do you understand what the word "consider" means? Bonobo Feb 2020 #98

The same as it meant when Biden was asked if he would "consider" a republican VP, and then.......... George II Feb 2020 #100

Wait, wasn't that the W doctrine? robbedvoter Feb 2020 #99

Yes and if it was a viable option the Cheney-Bush Sewa Feb 2020 #104