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squirecam

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47. Read what I wrote.

Sat Feb 15, 2020, 07:16 PM

Feb 2020

Attacking a North Korean launch site would, as NK states, cause them to respond with nukes.

You cannot guarantee that you know where their sites are. Or how many they have. So unless you are going to attack a missile site, and leave it up to chance whether NK will attack, knowing that they have already said they *would* strike back, would lead to a nuclear strike on South Korea. Which will kill tens to hundreds of thousands. You must strike the whole country in one fell swoop. The only way to quickly eliminate one country’s potential to nuke us, is to nuke them first.

That is the problem. There is no such thing as a limited attack on a country with nukes.

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Sanders tells New York Times he would consider a preemptive strike against Iran or North Korea [View all] George II Feb 2020 OP

That's crazy. Maybe he didn't understand the question. emmaverybo Feb 2020 #1

That is not a comforting thought either. n/t rzemanfl Feb 2020 #4

Mini stroke? Rollo Feb 2020 #29

Didn't understand the question. Blue_true Feb 2020 #43

LOL. emmaverybo Feb 2020 #97

This message was self-deleted by its author thesquanderer Feb 2020 #6

The questions were provided in advance and the answers were submitted in writing. This wasn't.... George II Feb 2020 #7

well catsudon Feb 2020 #64

Aren't many of his followers there because of his anti-war stances? Zolorp Feb 2020 #2

Seriously? Cha Feb 2020 #3

Biden, Bloomberg, and Buttigieg also said Yes. Warren said no. Klobuchar did not answer. (n/t) thesquanderer Feb 2020 #12

Along with BS Cha Feb 2020 #14

Of course. I said "also." But you seemed incredulous that BS could say that, so I pointed out... thesquanderer Feb 2020 #17

BS agrees with JB's position. Cha Feb 2020 #18

Right, they agree with each other. So when you said "Seriously?" you didn't mean... thesquanderer Feb 2020 #22

Biden is consistent in and out of public. Blue_true Feb 2020 #45

This was for public consumption. Here's the link... thesquanderer Feb 2020 #57

Only when the Times published it. Close to two months after Blue_true Feb 2020 #62

Where do his stump speeches contradict this answer? thesquanderer Feb 2020 #69

Warmongers R Us. God! brush Feb 2020 #101

Did you hear that, Tulsi Gabbard? Time to withdraw VP consideration. oasis Feb 2020 #5

Gabbard declined to respond to the survey. George II Feb 2020 #9

Sure she didn't reply Zeus69 Feb 2020 #96

All options should be on the table LeftTurn3623 Feb 2020 #8

"Would you consider military force to pre-empt an Iranian or North Korean nuclear or missile test?" bluewater Feb 2020 #10

The point is this. Blue_true Feb 2020 #46

Hillary and Bernie both were consistent in and out of public view. thesquanderer Feb 2020 #72

why include missile strike and test in the same question? Something's fishy Kurt V. Feb 2020 #11

It doesn't say strike, it says: "nuclear or missile test", i.e., nuclear test or missile test. George II Feb 2020 #13

Your right i see. still there is no way in hell sanders would do a preempted strike on missle test. Kurt V. Feb 2020 #16

So, why did he answer yes? nt Blue_true Feb 2020 #49

this is fake news until i see a link to the Times. the question is so poorly worded professionals Kurt V. Feb 2020 #52

Here's the link thesquanderer Feb 2020 #74

Read the question again. It just says "test" and does not say "strike". The word strike... Sloumeau Feb 2020 #15

i see now. okay why include nuclear and ambiguous test in the same question? i question the article Kurt V. Feb 2020 #19

the article is from the Trotskyist communist International Committee of the Fourth International Celerity Feb 2020 #39

so this whole thread is fake news? the question is very poorly worded and isn't consistent Kurt V. Feb 2020 #44

not so much fake news as it is very slanted agitprop Celerity Feb 2020 #48

The quote is legit. The OP's posted article about it is skewed. thesquanderer Feb 2020 #75

A strike against Iran or nuclear-armed North Korea to prevent a threatened missile test or nuclear Autumn Feb 2020 #20

North Korea already has nuclear weapons squirecam Feb 2020 #21

To prevent a nuclear strike, test or otherwise against us from NK or Iran ? I'm good with it. Autumn Feb 2020 #24

So we nuke them to prevent a missle test? Even though tens of thousands of South Koreans squirecam Feb 2020 #26

"So we nuke them" BZZZT. fail. No one said to NUKE them. bluewater Feb 2020 #37

An attack on North Korea, to stop a test, would be war squirecam Feb 2020 #40

Thanks for admitting NO ONE said to NUKE them. bluewater Feb 2020 #42

Read what I wrote. squirecam Feb 2020 #47

You are still pushing a STRAWMAN argument. That is readily apparent. bluewater Feb 2020 #55

Now you sound like Bolton. RandySF Feb 2020 #102

No I sound like Bernie and Biden. They were both a yes on that question. nt Autumn Feb 2020 #103

First time in a long time I agree with you. LOL OKNancy Feb 2020 #23

Could other countries then preemptively strike the US MyNameGoesHere Feb 2020 #27

Or strike us first because they think we would strike them.... squirecam Feb 2020 #33

Y'all keep twisting the question ! left-of-center2012 Feb 2020 #25

what does the question mean to you? bc i find it confusing. a nuclear test and a missile test Kurt V. Feb 2020 #34

Would YOU bomb a country for doing a TEST ? left-of-center2012 Feb 2020 #38

a nuclear test? Pre-emptedly. yes. It's absolute insanity not to. Kurt V. Feb 2020 #41

North Korea has already done a nuclear test. Six in fact. squirecam Feb 2020 #50

Then I guess we should have bombed ... left-of-center2012 Feb 2020 #51

It's shocking how quickly people defend this squirecam Feb 2020 #54

all those countries are either allies or too big to fuck with. not the case with nk and iran Kurt V. Feb 2020 #56

Ah yes squirecam Feb 2020 #59

you nailed it. History backs you up. Kurt V. Feb 2020 #63

So that makes it right? squirecam Feb 2020 #66

nt goes in the reply title. and no Kurt V. Feb 2020 #67

Yup ... also pretty sure the US did dozens of them ... I guess the world was INSANE not to mr_lebowski Feb 2020 #58

That seems contrary to what sanders has been saying at140 Feb 2020 #28

Thank God for pills and hearing aids then. squirecam Feb 2020 #30

YEAH, especially the blue pills lol at140 Feb 2020 #105

So shouldn't other countries have the same right MyNameGoesHere Feb 2020 #31

The source of this article, WSWS, is published by ... left-of-center2012 Feb 2020 #32

So is this article fake? Disinformation? squirecam Feb 2020 #36

Nailed it...that is exactly what is so infuriuating at140 Feb 2020 #106

Calling Susan Sarandon... Susan Sarandon... HELLO? Oh, Susan! NurseJackie Feb 2020 #35

Really? BlueIdaho Feb 2020 #53

I think I'll wait to see the exact wording of the question from a reliable source before I flip out mr_lebowski Feb 2020 #60

Pretty simple question. BlueIdaho Feb 2020 #61

Assuming that's the right wording, it's a bullshit question to force a 'yes or no' answer to ... mr_lebowski Feb 2020 #87

Pffft. BlueIdaho Feb 2020 #90

Here's the link... thesquanderer Feb 2020 #85

Thanks, not going to use up one of my NYT visits for this ... are you confirming the article mr_lebowski Feb 2020 #88

Here's what it says... thesquanderer Feb 2020 #89

Thanks! I find it flabbergasting that's literally what was asked, and NOBODY (apparently) mr_lebowski Feb 2020 #91

North Korea has conducted six nuclear tests. thesquanderer Feb 2020 #92

That is an interesting non-sequitur ... (nt) mr_lebowski Feb 2020 #93

Not intended as a non-sequitur thesquanderer Feb 2020 #94

Fair enough, I don't disagree ... mr_lebowski Feb 2020 #95

If he answered no he'd be accused of being willing to allow them to have nuclear weapons. brewens Feb 2020 #65

North Korea already has nuclear weapons squirecam Feb 2020 #68

But Iran does not. And Iran was mentioned by name in the question. bluewater Feb 2020 #71

I went to their source material, which has answers from all candidates. moriah Feb 2020 #70

Remember, the question asked if they would CONSIDER such a military strike. bluewater Feb 2020 #73

Warrens answer was correct. squirecam Feb 2020 #77

The folks here taking Bernie to task over this answer should switch to Warren... thesquanderer Feb 2020 #79

+10000 bluewater Feb 2020 #80

the "yes" answer RazBerryBeret Feb 2020 #76

Here's the link... thesquanderer Feb 2020 #82

George this is fake news. Shame on you . keep em coming. :) Kurt V. Feb 2020 #78

. George II Feb 2020 #84

This doesn't sound right democrattotheend Feb 2020 #81

Here's the link... thesquanderer Feb 2020 #83

Yes is the only answer. Steelrolled Feb 2020 #86

Do you understand what the word "consider" means? Bonobo Feb 2020 #98

The same as it meant when Biden was asked if he would "consider" a republican VP, and then.......... George II Feb 2020 #100

Wait, wasn't that the W doctrine? robbedvoter Feb 2020 #99

Yes and if it was a viable option the Cheney-Bush Sewa Feb 2020 #104