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JudyM

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40. K&R. Important to post these research results.

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Sun Feb 16, 2020, 02:18 AM

Feb 2020

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

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Sanders Applauds New Medicare for All Study: Will Save Americans $450 Billion and Prevent [View all] Uncle Joe Feb 2020 OP

Warren's November 2019 projections are much higher. Somebody better reconcile Hoyt Feb 2020 #1

Will Sanders ever disclose how much it will cost and how he pays for it? calguy Feb 2020 #2

It costs less MoonlitKnight Feb 2020 #3

It's amazing how many people don't understand what "costs less" means. Uncle Joe Feb 2020 #6

Gee Like Every Other Advanced Nation Covers Every Citizen DanieRains Feb 2020 #35

YOU SAID IT UNCLE JOE!!!! InAbLuEsTaTe Feb 2020 #76

50 years of right wing propaganda have distorted perception Prosper Feb 2020 #83

But you totally miss the point calguy Feb 2020 #21

from the article questionseverything Feb 2020 #25

Study after study...decade after decade MoonlitKnight Feb 2020 #44

+1 lunasun Feb 2020 #79

It's in a highly ranked, peer-reviewed journal greymattermom Feb 2020 #53

But it doesn't cost *everyone* less Recursion Feb 2020 #43

Yes, people who make a lot of money pay a little bit more MoonlitKnight Feb 2020 #45

Lots of people get free insurance Recursion Feb 2020 #46

Did this paragraph mean anything to you? Uncle Joe Feb 2020 #5

Which paragraph? sheshe2 Feb 2020 #9

The only one Uncle Joe Feb 2020 #11

Well at least I'm better informed about how many brothers from my generation died in Viet Nam calguy Feb 2020 #23

We already spend more than any other developed country on health care yet totodeinhere Feb 2020 #27

And military spending. YOHABLO Feb 2020 #29

You may want to cruise through the study referenced in the OP. ramen Feb 2020 #30

My wife spent a lifetime in medical billing at140 Feb 2020 #55

Gosh. He applauded a study? Wow. Squinch Feb 2020 #4

Oh and read this... sheshe2 Feb 2020 #15

The Lancet is a very good source BlueIdaho Feb 2020 #7

I'm sure other publications or sources will be reporting on aspects of this study as well, Uncle Joe Feb 2020 #8

I want to read the study BlueIdaho Feb 2020 #10

Well the only way around that is to pay them. Uncle Joe Feb 2020 #12

Just curious why a medical journal Progressive dog Feb 2020 #13

They have about 90 citations to a wide range of supportive research and other documentation. JudyM Feb 2020 #38

Thye article is an opinion piece with Progressive dog Feb 2020 #68

Because Corporate Profit Is More Important Than Human Life DanieRains Feb 2020 #39

That is a well reasoned argument Progressive dog Feb 2020 #67

It's a study by the Yale school of Public Health. It combines healthcare with many disciplines Nanjeanne Feb 2020 #56

No it is a paper with simplistic options Progressive dog Feb 2020 #66

Cost less, not free.... sheshe2 Feb 2020 #14

You chopped off a key part of that paragraph. Uncle Joe Feb 2020 #16

First of all Bernie said it was free. sheshe2 Feb 2020 #17

Where in the OP or anywhere else for that matter do you see Bernie saying it's free? Uncle Joe Feb 2020 #18

His stump speeches. sheshe2 Feb 2020 #19

Free at the POINT OF SERVICE just means you don't pay to see a doctor or have surgery and Uncle Joe Feb 2020 #24

Some do. nt sheshe2 Feb 2020 #26

No country in the world has 100% free health care for everything. The Velveteen Ocelot Feb 2020 #28

That seems like a very sane system ramen Feb 2020 #31

It does. But... The Velveteen Ocelot Feb 2020 #34

I am totally comfortable with that health care plan not happening like a switch flipped. ramen Feb 2020 #49

But it seems like many voters really think The Velveteen Ocelot Feb 2020 #50

If enough of the elctorate demands it with their votes and dollars, ramen Feb 2020 #60

The reality is that most Democrats are in the middle of the road somewhere poltically. The Velveteen Ocelot Feb 2020 #61

I hope someone's does someday, if that is the case. nt ramen Feb 2020 #65

Free at point of service is free at point of service dualboy24 Feb 2020 #74

Warren set out how she would pay for it. denem Feb 2020 #20

Warren's health plan is great by me. ramen Feb 2020 #32

When Warren was the front runner denem Feb 2020 #33

My Medicare for All plan gives everyone good insurance & cuts their health care costs to nearly zero progressoid Feb 2020 #22

The next step is for employers to pass on their savings in overhead greymattermom Feb 2020 #54

It costs less MoonlitKnight Feb 2020 #36

Thanks for the addition MoonlitKnight. Uncle Joe Feb 2020 #37

Empirically the best option MoonlitKnight Feb 2020 #42

Then why so so few countries use single payer? Recursion Feb 2020 #47

K&R. Important to post these research results. JudyM Feb 2020 #40

kick floppyboo Feb 2020 #41

68 ,000 lives saved a year is constantly overlooked Prosper Feb 2020 #48

Did the article say when that year starts? That matters. Until then we have Blue_true Feb 2020 #72

66000 people are dying earlier because of lack of healthcare. Prosper Feb 2020 #80

You didn't answer my question, you did a diversion. Blue_true Feb 2020 #81

Could we get there as fast or faster by simply expanding the ACA? Prosper Feb 2020 #82

The people you need to convince are not the people here... brooklynite Feb 2020 #51

I have to admit RazBerryBeret Feb 2020 #52

Won't they please think of those who want to keep their expensive, inefficient private insurance? LonePirate Feb 2020 #57

Unfortunately that's a lot of people, and they vote Recursion Feb 2020 #62

It is not a joke, it is a sad testament on life that some on the left are as ignorant as the right. LonePirate Feb 2020 #63

Hope Sanders and Warren get together to explain whey the are so far apart on projected costs. Hoyt Feb 2020 #58

Highly dubious. ucrdem Feb 2020 #59

I made that point in a less literate way. Blue_true Feb 2020 #73

Exactly. Sanders is a great pitchman but M4A is basically a faith-based initiative. ucrdem Feb 2020 #78

But, but...his surrogates tell us it will never happen robbedvoter Feb 2020 #64

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Welcome to D.U. TangledUpInBlue Uncle Joe Feb 2020 #70

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Well that person is.... Blue_true Feb 2020 #75

We need this.. I_UndergroundPanther Feb 2020 #77