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Squinch

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96. Ahh! The old favorite bro answer that economic policies solve all minority issues. Kay.

Sun Feb 16, 2020, 12:36 PM

Feb 2020

So really he has done nothing specifically for minorities at all. Which I knew. I just wondered if you did. And clearly you did.

And no, I was not justifying stop and frisk. I have never tried to justify it. It was wrong. And he has said it was wrong. As opposed to BS who has never admitted to any wrongdoing in voting for a crime bill that resulted in the unwarranted incarceration of untold young black men.

I was saying that, despite the failure of stop and frisk - and it was a failure. In addition to its immorality and unconstitutionality, it had no statistical effect on reducing crime - Bloomberg instituted other policies that DID go far in reducing violence against NYC minority citizens. A 50% reduction in the murder rate of young black men in NYC was an undeniably valuable accomplishment, especially to the families of those young black men, I imagine.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Would a President Bloomberg use his wealth to seek a third term if he wanted it? [View all] Tom Rinaldo Feb 2020 OP

Bloomburg bullied the City Council until they changed the Bylaws to allow him no_hypocrisy Feb 2020 #1

Right, he didn't even have to put all that money into it! (n/t) thesquanderer Feb 2020 #14

How did he bully the City Council? N/T lapucelle Feb 2020 #37

A lot of behind-the-scenes pressure on certain Council members. no_hypocrisy Feb 2020 #43

That article doesn't say anything about Bloomberg bullying the City Council. lapucelle Feb 2020 #47

the city council did it in there own self-interest Fresh_Start Feb 2020 #51

New Yorkers are well aware of that fact. The talking point that Bloomberg "bullied" lapucelle Feb 2020 #56

I assume that everyone on DU is not a New Yorker Fresh_Start Feb 2020 #57

Thank you for setting the record straight. lapucelle Feb 2020 #58

The Charter was restored to limiting Mayors to two terms after Bloomberg left office. n/t Tom Rinaldo Feb 2020 #63

I can't imagine he would even try for a second term. Remember patricia92243 Feb 2020 #2

There have been aged Presidents returned to office elsewhere in the world Tom Rinaldo Feb 2020 #18

Personal wealth. patricia92243 Feb 2020 #21

He's not spending as much, and he can't promote a record of political accomplishments, and Tom Rinaldo Feb 2020 #28

You do realize you are complimenting Bloomberg? patricia92243 Feb 2020 #31

I generally think Bloomberg is an honorable man and I've said so here before Tom Rinaldo Feb 2020 #64

Your own post argues against the point. former9thward Feb 2020 #102

Really? madaboutharry Feb 2020 #3

He DID manipulate his way into what should have been an unlawful third term as Mayor. thesquanderer Feb 2020 #17

So many things about Bloomberg should help us... dchill Feb 2020 #24

Wow wow wow Bendim Feb 2020 #39

What we're dealing with here is... dchill Feb 2020 #44

Welcome to DU. If you are not terrified, above all else, of a second Squinch Feb 2020 #45

Oh but I am. Bendim Feb 2020 #49

Well good for you. ETA: Where does Sanders's support of Squinch Feb 2020 #55

Big big difference Bendim Feb 2020 #87

Bloomberg also reduced the numbers of murders of young black men in the neighborhoods by Squinch Feb 2020 #89

Really? Bendim Feb 2020 #91

No, actually, I did nothing of the sort. But I doubt you can be convinced of that. Squinch Feb 2020 #92

You wrote: Bendim Feb 2020 #94

Ahh! The old favorite bro answer that economic policies solve all minority issues. Kay. Squinch Feb 2020 #96

Putting words into my mouth I never wrote. Bendim Feb 2020 #98

Oh, god. Not this shit again. Bernie in college marching with Martin Luther King. Got it. Squinch Feb 2020 #99

My question. Bendim Feb 2020 #100

If voters coalesce around another candidate other than BS very soon, I will vote for that candidate. Squinch Feb 2020 #101

I guess that's something. Bendim Feb 2020 #103

And yours as long as it's not BS. Squinch Feb 2020 #104

you're not alone.... Locrian Feb 2020 #77

Yep. marble falls Feb 2020 #20

He needs to win a first term philf99 Feb 2020 #4

Mommy, there's a billionaire under my bed! betsuni Feb 2020 #5

OMG! ROFLMAO! Amimnoch Feb 2020 #9

. Squinch Feb 2020 #16

Yes to this. Let's win the day folks. IADEMO2004 Feb 2020 #53

I'm more concerned about billionaires in the Whitehouse than ones under my bed Devil Child Feb 2020 #62

The Bernie misinformation campaign continues calguy Feb 2020 #6

I especially like the spin that Sanders' supporters are criticizing Bloomberg's stop and frisk. floppyboo Feb 2020 #50

How about the crime bill that Sanders supported? Squinch Feb 2020 #61

You've seen Sanders on the floor re. his vote on that, right? If not, let me know floppyboo Feb 2020 #95

You mean where he says, "Yes I voted for it because reasons" That one? Squinch Feb 2020 #97

Ya. That one. You don't think reasons count? floppyboo Feb 2020 #106

Do those reasons justify the unwarranted incarceration of thousands of young black men? Squinch Feb 2020 #109

That 50% drop was after he discontinued the program at the very end of his 3rd term. floppyboo Feb 2020 #111

The 50% drop was occurring throughout his administration and, by all accounts had nothing to do Squinch Feb 2020 #112

The people of NYC were free to vote against him for that 3rd term. Squinch Feb 2020 #7

The people of NYC were still deprived of a different alternative to Thompson... moreover... thesquanderer Feb 2020 #26

With essentially token opposition his margin of victory shrank dramatically for his third victory Tom Rinaldo Feb 2020 #27

Lots of reasons why that win was not acceptable to some here, Squinch Feb 2020 #34

Which is exactly the tactic Bernie Sanders uses in Vermont. He runs in the Democratic primary so catbyte Feb 2020 #60

Bingo! patricia92243 Feb 2020 #33

US Constituition is clear. Amimnoch Feb 2020 #8

So was the New York City Charter. It got "amended". n/t Tom Rinaldo Feb 2020 #22

Yeah.. that's the same. Amimnoch Feb 2020 #36

Are you against "amendments"? Why the scare quotes? N/T lapucelle Feb 2020 #42

It got amended right back to the way it was after Bloomberg left office Tom Rinaldo Feb 2020 #65

No, he would be above 90 then...and it would be impossible to get through congress...however, Demsrule86 Feb 2020 #10

+1000 NT Fresh_Start Feb 2020 #105

Not true Polybius Feb 2020 #108

And that's different? Such nonsense...we have an amendment you couldn't just enact a law...all this Demsrule86 Feb 2020 #115

"No, he would be above 90 then" Polybius Feb 2020 #116

You think he wants to be President until he's 90? bluedigger Feb 2020 #11

I think it highly unlikely... Tom Rinaldo Feb 2020 #25

I think it's more likely Sanders would try to extend to a third term. honest.abe Feb 2020 #12

What is this whack ball conspiracy day? Botany Feb 2020 #13

This isn't a conspiracy theory. Look up "conspiracy" in a dictionary Tom Rinaldo Feb 2020 #19

One man's conspiracy theory is another man's political speculation. marble falls Feb 2020 #23

Is it conspiracy theory or political speculation that the Big Foot Caucus in New Hampshire are ... Botany Feb 2020 #32

He also spent a ton in 2018 to help take back the House redstateblues Feb 2020 #52

Wouldn't THAT make republican's heads explode. democratisphere Feb 2020 #15

LOL. Great response. Hoyt Feb 2020 #82

OFFS! Zolorp Feb 2020 #29

I disparage the power of concentrated super wealth over our American Democracy Tom Rinaldo Feb 2020 #67

Sanders is the only viable candidate that terrifies me. Zolorp Feb 2020 #68

I won't fault you for being terrified by what terrifies you Tom Rinaldo Feb 2020 #70

I am troubled by the consequences of nominating Sanders Zolorp Feb 2020 #71

If he could pull that off, could he also buy treestar Feb 2020 #30

Or Citizens United? Squinch Feb 2020 #41

really is pure fantasy as no way the admendment would be changed beachbumbob Feb 2020 #35

I'm sure he would calculate the costs and would proceed if feasible Devil Child Feb 2020 #38

Would a President Sanders solve the farm crisis by OnDoutside Feb 2020 #40

Yawn... brooklynite Feb 2020 #46

True. It would probably take one of the world's richest individuals to finance an effort like that Tom Rinaldo Feb 2020 #73

This post reminds me of Sanders chances of becoming president Renew Deal Feb 2020 #48

Sunday morning DU Kabooki Theatre. NoMoreRepugs Feb 2020 #54

Too early Duckerington Feb 2020 #59

YES !!! uponit7771 Feb 2020 #66

Ten Friggin' Years Is The Only Thing That Makes This Scenario Implausible Tom Rinaldo Feb 2020 #69

I don't know but I am positive Trump will. nt doc03 Feb 2020 #72

He'd be 86 at that point Recursion Feb 2020 #74

Understood. I used this to make a point which I explain more in post #69 above n/t Tom Rinaldo Feb 2020 #76

Oh for Pete's sake! nt. BlueIdaho Feb 2020 #75

The fact that Buttigieg would likely benefit by a decline in Bloomberg's fortunes Tom Rinaldo Feb 2020 #79

Bloomberg would be going on 86 at the end of his second term lol Drunken Irishman Feb 2020 #78

You miss the point. Read post #69 n/t Tom Rinaldo Feb 2020 #80

You think he could *buy* a Constitutional amendment? Seriously? The Velveteen Ocelot Feb 2020 #81

+1000000 Pachamama Feb 2020 #83

Hypothetically, yes. But only if he was a popular President during troubled times Tom Rinaldo Feb 2020 #85

Really, the attacks against other dems aren't working. Bloomberg is gaining because he attacks 33taw Feb 2020 #84

Honestly I am not so much attacking Bloomberg as the role of money in politics Tom Rinaldo Feb 2020 #86

I think it is his approach rather than money. 33taw Feb 2020 #113

No BlueJac Feb 2020 #88

We fully agree on your closing sentiment n/t Tom Rinaldo Feb 2020 #90

I don't support him but I doubt it. If he got the Constitution amended and ran for a third totodeinhere Feb 2020 #93

The 22nd Amendment needs to be repealed anyway Polybius Feb 2020 #107

3 years ago I agreed with you democrattotheend Feb 2020 #117

I doubt we would have to worry about Trump again Polybius Feb 2020 #122

Reagan almost certainly would have run and won in 1988. tritsofme Feb 2020 #118

Even if he ran in 1988, it wouldn't have been any worse than under Poppy Bush Polybius Feb 2020 #121

Bloomberg has said in times of necessity we might have to "change our laws or our interpretation emmaverybo Feb 2020 #110

This really wasn't a trick question. Most responders blew right past the obvious answer. Tom Rinaldo Feb 2020 #114

He'd be 90 at least. applegrove Feb 2020 #119

Actually 86. But that misses the point again. See the post above yours n/t Tom Rinaldo Feb 2020 #120

I see no objective evidence he would. LanternWaste Feb 2020 #123

Read post 114, for example, to see evidence supporting the validity of the literal question I posed Tom Rinaldo Feb 2020 #124