Democratic Primaries

oldsoftie

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1. Trump was also helped a great deal by being a celebrity. People are IN LOVE with celebrities.

Mon Feb 17, 2020, 10:19 AM

Feb 2020

Everyone knew who he was and his bombast. And they really thought he was a great businessman. Thats one thing i think Bloomberg would be great at; exposing trump as the failure he really is. So much has been brought out that the average voter never knew.

Carter was hurt by the Iranian situation and HORRIBLE interest rates with rough inflation. Trump doesnt have those type issues to deal with. Dont forget the advantage of incumbency; even if it IS trump.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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For those afraid of electoral disaster if we move as far left as Warren/Sanders... [View all] thesquanderer Feb 2020 OP

Trump was also helped a great deal by being a celebrity. People are IN LOVE with celebrities. oldsoftie Feb 2020 #1

Saint Ronnie Raygun was also a celebrity FoxNewsSucks Feb 2020 #4

Exactly. Somehow forgot about that. As well as a former Governor. nt oldsoftie Feb 2020 #7

Yes, I still remember those ads FoxNewsSucks Feb 2020 #9

True, but Sanders has also become something of a celebrity. thesquanderer Feb 2020 #10

I think the difference is in the kind of celebrity they become. FoxNewsSucks Feb 2020 #37

True, a movie or TV star is a different kind of celebrity thesquanderer Feb 2020 #39

You do know Reagan committed treason with the Iranians to win, right? brush Feb 2020 #21

Nixon would have won anyway in 1972 Polybius Feb 2020 #33

My point was he committed treason. brush Feb 2020 #34

re: "Trump doesnt have those type issues to deal with." thesquanderer Feb 2020 #13

k&r Lunch Lady Feb 2020 #2

We still have too many who are too status quo, Jamastiene Feb 2020 #3

we are not afraid...we are looking at facts and evidence Fresh_Start Feb 2020 #5

I hope that's what happens FoxNewsSucks Feb 2020 #6

Right, Comey had nothing to do with it. 11 days before the election the Democratic nominee was still_one Feb 2020 #8

Raygun cut a deal with the Iranians FoxNewsSucks Feb 2020 #11

I know, I didn't detail that which also hurt Carter tremendously. Reagan should have been impeached still_one Feb 2020 #16

Reagan had a Democratic House the entire 8 years jimfields33 Feb 2020 #29

I agree still_one Feb 2020 #32

That's more than cheating, that's treason. Nixon committed it too with the North Vietnamese. brush Feb 2020 #30

Anna Chennault Algernon Moncrieff Feb 2020 #42

re: "11 days before the election the Democratic nominee was ahead by 5 or more points" thesquanderer Feb 2020 #19

Are you saying there was no re-opened investigation on Clinton? I don't remember it that way. brush Feb 2020 #22

yes, that is exactly what i am saying. It was very clear that they were determining if the data still_one Feb 2020 #25

And yet hou seem to be supporting Warren. Hmmm... hedda_foil Feb 2020 #12

I prefer Warren to Sanders, but if she doesn't start polling stronger against Trump by the time... thesquanderer Feb 2020 #17

Sorry that I obviously misunderstood your post. Thanks for the correction. hedda_foil Feb 2020 #20

I am not afraid to move as far left as Warren beastie boy Feb 2020 #14

+++ Exactly. Just look who Sanders has hired as his hit people. Jill Stein Supporter Briahana Joy still_one Feb 2020 #27

Sanders is not Reagan...there are no hostages and the economy is not tanking... Demsrule86 Feb 2020 #15

People don't do a simple left-versus-moderate assessment. As was pointed out... thesquanderer Feb 2020 #18

There's a big difference Midnightwalk Feb 2020 #23

Reagan hid his reality behind a smile most people considered charming. DavidDvorkin Feb 2020 #24

Did we not suffer an electoral disaster in 2016 with the centrist candidate? LonePirate Feb 2020 #26

Winning swing states by moving further left is a LOSING STRATEGY. nt UniteFightBack Feb 2020 #28

A centrist candidate who was personally unpopular Awsi Dooger Feb 2020 #36

It wasnt because the candidate was Centrist. And it was only by 75K votes. oldsoftie Feb 2020 #40

So, you're making the likability argument now? Great! Sanders is more popular than 45 is. LonePirate Feb 2020 #41

Just pointing out the facts of the '16 election. oldsoftie Feb 2020 #43

I love how history repeats itself. Doremus Feb 2020 #31

No kidding. FoxNewsSucks Feb 2020 #38

Watergate briefly derailed the Emerging Republican Majority Awsi Dooger Feb 2020 #35