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LonePirate

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26. Did we not suffer an electoral disaster in 2016 with the centrist candidate?

Reply to thesquanderer (Original post)

Mon Feb 17, 2020, 01:16 PM

Feb 2020

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

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For those afraid of electoral disaster if we move as far left as Warren/Sanders... [View all] thesquanderer Feb 2020 OP

Trump was also helped a great deal by being a celebrity. People are IN LOVE with celebrities. oldsoftie Feb 2020 #1

Saint Ronnie Raygun was also a celebrity FoxNewsSucks Feb 2020 #4

Exactly. Somehow forgot about that. As well as a former Governor. nt oldsoftie Feb 2020 #7

Yes, I still remember those ads FoxNewsSucks Feb 2020 #9

True, but Sanders has also become something of a celebrity. thesquanderer Feb 2020 #10

I think the difference is in the kind of celebrity they become. FoxNewsSucks Feb 2020 #37

True, a movie or TV star is a different kind of celebrity thesquanderer Feb 2020 #39

You do know Reagan committed treason with the Iranians to win, right? brush Feb 2020 #21

Nixon would have won anyway in 1972 Polybius Feb 2020 #33

My point was he committed treason. brush Feb 2020 #34

re: "Trump doesnt have those type issues to deal with." thesquanderer Feb 2020 #13

k&r Lunch Lady Feb 2020 #2

We still have too many who are too status quo, Jamastiene Feb 2020 #3

we are not afraid...we are looking at facts and evidence Fresh_Start Feb 2020 #5

I hope that's what happens FoxNewsSucks Feb 2020 #6

Right, Comey had nothing to do with it. 11 days before the election the Democratic nominee was still_one Feb 2020 #8

Raygun cut a deal with the Iranians FoxNewsSucks Feb 2020 #11

I know, I didn't detail that which also hurt Carter tremendously. Reagan should have been impeached still_one Feb 2020 #16

Reagan had a Democratic House the entire 8 years jimfields33 Feb 2020 #29

I agree still_one Feb 2020 #32

That's more than cheating, that's treason. Nixon committed it too with the North Vietnamese. brush Feb 2020 #30

Anna Chennault Algernon Moncrieff Feb 2020 #42

re: "11 days before the election the Democratic nominee was ahead by 5 or more points" thesquanderer Feb 2020 #19

Are you saying there was no re-opened investigation on Clinton? I don't remember it that way. brush Feb 2020 #22

yes, that is exactly what i am saying. It was very clear that they were determining if the data still_one Feb 2020 #25

And yet hou seem to be supporting Warren. Hmmm... hedda_foil Feb 2020 #12

I prefer Warren to Sanders, but if she doesn't start polling stronger against Trump by the time... thesquanderer Feb 2020 #17

Sorry that I obviously misunderstood your post. Thanks for the correction. hedda_foil Feb 2020 #20

I am not afraid to move as far left as Warren beastie boy Feb 2020 #14

+++ Exactly. Just look who Sanders has hired as his hit people. Jill Stein Supporter Briahana Joy still_one Feb 2020 #27

Sanders is not Reagan...there are no hostages and the economy is not tanking... Demsrule86 Feb 2020 #15

People don't do a simple left-versus-moderate assessment. As was pointed out... thesquanderer Feb 2020 #18

There's a big difference Midnightwalk Feb 2020 #23

Reagan hid his reality behind a smile most people considered charming. DavidDvorkin Feb 2020 #24

Did we not suffer an electoral disaster in 2016 with the centrist candidate? LonePirate Feb 2020 #26

Winning swing states by moving further left is a LOSING STRATEGY. nt UniteFightBack Feb 2020 #28

A centrist candidate who was personally unpopular Awsi Dooger Feb 2020 #36

It wasnt because the candidate was Centrist. And it was only by 75K votes. oldsoftie Feb 2020 #40

So, you're making the likability argument now? Great! Sanders is more popular than 45 is. LonePirate Feb 2020 #41

Just pointing out the facts of the '16 election. oldsoftie Feb 2020 #43

I love how history repeats itself. Doremus Feb 2020 #31

No kidding. FoxNewsSucks Feb 2020 #38

Watergate briefly derailed the Emerging Republican Majority Awsi Dooger Feb 2020 #35