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CalFione

(571 posts)
10. 2016 was very different than 2020
Tue Feb 18, 2020, 12:33 AM
Feb 2020

1. In 2016, moderates/independents didn't know just how bad Trump would be. Many thought he'd "pivot" to being presidential. Voters now know what kind or President he is - he has a record.

2. The 2018 midterms happened. The massive blue wave was fueled by suburban moderates who became so disgusted with Trump after seeing him in action. These are regretful Trump voters that won't go back - unless we nominate a far left candidate.

3. Hillary Clinton was universally loathed on the right. No current Democratic candidate, save for Bernie, generates that kind of vitriolic hatred on the right.

4. 10 days before the election, Comey swung the tide toward Trump.

5. Trump needed an inside-straight of 77,000 votes spread over 3 states to win. 3 states in which massive complacency had set in among the Democratic party. That won't be an issue this time.

6. Despite all of the above, our side still got 3 million more votes. In the 2018 midterms, it was 10 million more votes nationwide.


Moderates won the midterms. Flipped 40 seats. That's the fuel for victory in 2020 too.
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
Seriously. Authoritarian followers never change. catrose Feb 2020 #1
The only people I hear talking about winning over Trump supporters are Sanders folks, and LongtimeAZDem Feb 2020 #2
Might I suggest you listen to the latest podcast called Rumble Jim_S Feb 2020 #6
Michael Moore has become a propagandist for Sanders, so I have little confidence in his guests LongtimeAZDem Feb 2020 #7
Thanks I'll check it out. Jim_S Feb 2020 #8
I mentioned Bitecofer in the following post about people misunderstanding the electorate: Garrett78 Feb 2020 #12
Everyone would also do well to read this piece from 538: Garrett78 Feb 2020 #18
Millions of 2016 Trump voters switched to the Democratic party in 2018 midterms CalFione Feb 2020 #3
+1000 Everybody please read this and vote with your heads. ! nt UniteFightBack Feb 2020 #5
A "safe and sane" pick wins easily. Really? Jim_S Feb 2020 #9
2016 was very different than 2020 CalFione Feb 2020 #10
2018 was a story of turnout, not a story of Trump voters voting Dem. Garrett78 Feb 2020 #14
That simply isn't true. 2018 was all about who turned out, not about Trump voters voting Dem. Garrett78 Feb 2020 #17
+1 MoonlitKnight Feb 2020 #20
They're not... brooklynite Feb 2020 #4
+1 Gravitycollapse Feb 2020 #16
Always remember - only 25% of voters identify as Republicans. stopbush Feb 2020 #11
People like to vote for winners. JohnnyRingo Feb 2020 #13
True "swing voters" are not that great in number, and what they tend to swing against... Garrett78 Feb 2020 #15
Not Trump supporters gollygee Feb 2020 #19
Recommended. guillaumeb Feb 2020 #21
Wrong strategy. We need to make Trump supporters stay home. McCamy Taylor Feb 2020 #22
Nixon Deero Feb 2020 #23
I'm talking about when his approval rating fell into the low-mid twenties. Garrett78 Feb 2020 #24
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