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BlueMTexpat

(15,668 posts)
Tue Feb 18, 2020, 07:19 AM Feb 2020

Warren Is Paying the Price for her Honesty. And Her Gender. [View all]

Her willingness to provide the details of her plans should be a strength, not a drawback.

https://washingtonmonthly.com/2020/02/15/warren-is-paying-the-price-for-her-honesty-and-her-gender/

Excellent article!

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If Warren does end up falling short there will be numerous well-sourced accounts, but the trajectory from the outside is already clear enough. In a primary where voters have been obsessively seeking “electability,” and where other candidates have been willing to spin fables or dramatically change positions to secure votes, Warren’s basic decency and honesty have cost her. And the sexism undergirding much of the conversation around electability hasn’t helped.

Both Warren’s defenders and detractors on the left and right side of the Democratic field rightly point to the healthcare debate as the key turning point. As the primary hit the first series of debates, Warren remained ambiguous about the details of her healthcare plan, dodging questions about taxation and saying only that “costs will go down.” Both Sanders on her left and Buttigieg, Biden and Klobuchar on her right pilloried her for her lack of specificity on this front.

The Buttigieg/Biden/Klobuchar wing was content to diss Medicare for All entirely, hedging toward frankly unworkable “Medicare for All Who Want It” style plans. The challenge for the moderate approach to healthcare will be the same as that of the ACA: half-measures that will be immediately hobbled by the medical provider and insurance industries, and that will not provide the cost savings required for a universal plan to be effective. Politically, this was an attempt to undermine Warren whom they saw as the primary threat, and to solidify their own control of the “moderate” lane. None of them saw Sanders as a serious threat at the time, nor did they factor in the degree to which many of their own voters supposedly in the moderate lane had Sanders as their second choice. They also strongly underestimated the degree to which Democratic voters genuinely like and want Medicare for All.

The Sanders campaign, for their part, took advantage by playing a dangerous game. Sanders openly admitted to planning to raise taxes on more than just the top 1%, but correctly noted that it would be made up for by removing premiums. While this is correct on its own terms and is a smart play in a Democratic primary, it’s an extremely risky move for the general election where Republicans will take those “raise taxes” sound bites, scaring seniors into believing that Sanders will raise their taxes while destroying Medicare and handing their money to supposedly undeserving poor young people. There is a reason that no other candidate in the field was willing to deliver that sort of public sound bite–and it’s not due to dishonesty or corruption. Sanders’ strategy has been to simply win the Democratic primary and worry about the consequences for the general election later. ...
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LOTS more in the article.

And it's made me MORE determined than ever to KEEP ON supporting her!
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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I agree still_one Feb 2020 #1
Thanks, still_one! BlueMTexpat Feb 2020 #3
Out of all the Democratic candidates running , she is the smartest and most intelligent of the whole still_one Feb 2020 #4
Maybe you should rephrase that. SergeStorms Feb 2020 #8
I'll stand by my assessment. David Vitter and Bobby Jindal are also Rhodes Scholars still_one Feb 2020 #10
So is Rachel Maddow. SergeStorms Feb 2020 #32
My opinion is based on several factors. She listens, and is flexible. If she realizes an incorrect still_one Feb 2020 #36
And each.... SergeStorms Feb 2020 #67
She understands math. jaxexpat Feb 2020 #13
That's debatable. SergeStorms Feb 2020 #34
Why is the claim "certainly false"? lapucelle Feb 2020 #51
No thanks. SergeStorms Feb 2020 #66
I watched her presidential announcement Butterflylady Feb 2020 #24
Here is a good discussion of this BlueMTexpat Feb 2020 #2
True. NurseJackie Feb 2020 #5
Post removed Post removed Feb 2020 #6
Misogyny absolutely hurt Hillary. Turin_C3PO Feb 2020 #9
For over 30 years!! 2naSalit Feb 2020 #21
... BlueMTexpat Feb 2020 #39
Best of the bunch still. Tx for posting. Go Elizabeth! appalachiablue Feb 2020 #7
Plans are great but my focus is to wake up in the morning without thought of Donald Trump. gordianot Feb 2020 #11
And start getting rid of Republican Senate starting with JoeDuck Feb 2020 #18
I am donating to Senate Candidates and am compiling a list. gordianot Feb 2020 #19
Elizabeth campaigned hard for Dem candidates BlueMTexpat Feb 2020 #40
It would seem fair for the other candidates to release specific details of their healthcare plans dlk Feb 2020 #12
I wish she was doing better because she's my favorite Luciferous Feb 2020 #14
I agree. ehrnst Feb 2020 #15
Anyone who doesn't vote in the General because their candidate lost rickyhall Feb 2020 #16
Message auto-removed Name removed Feb 2020 #52
Help me out, here. Laelth Feb 2020 #17
It's unworkable because when you give insurance companies pricing power, they will work hard against ancianita Feb 2020 #27
This. eom BlueMTexpat Feb 2020 #41
This Bettie Feb 2020 #55
Medicare for All Works Great in France McKim Feb 2020 #31
It works in France because physicians make a lot more in USA, nurses make less in France, France has Hoyt Feb 2020 #53
This is a great article explaining why the public option idea is problematic: Garrett78 Feb 2020 #44
Exactly. Squinch Feb 2020 #20
When the primary election comes to my state... 2naSalit Feb 2020 #22
Well perhaps you'll be getting an "old white guy'' named Trump for President YOHABLO Feb 2020 #33
I get that. 2naSalit Feb 2020 #35
I agree. brer cat Feb 2020 #23
It's a sad thing to know that if Liz were a WOC/Woman Of Color she'd already be out of the abqtommy Feb 2020 #25
she should be Nikki28 Feb 2020 #26
That's nice to hear! BlueMTexpat Feb 2020 #42
My admiration for her is just beyond my words.... FM123 Feb 2020 #28
I'll vote for her today Taraman Feb 2020 #29
I think she made a poor political calculation / argument Jarqui Feb 2020 #30
Everything you said. Pisces Feb 2020 #38
Oh please... druidity33 Feb 2020 #43
Yes, she detailed a plan that a majority of folks did not like Jarqui Feb 2020 #45
This reporter did a better job... druidity33 Feb 2020 #46
Good catch! BlueMTexpat Feb 2020 #48
But writing up a 9,300 word plan is a little overwhelming for those working Jarqui Feb 2020 #54
As opposed to Bernie... druidity33 Feb 2020 #61
I'd like to add to my comments Jarqui Feb 2020 #60
America isn't paying attention... druidity33 Feb 2020 #62
After all those detailed plans and speeches ... only 36% of Americans Jarqui Feb 2020 #63
please cite your source... druidity33 Feb 2020 #64
It was posted earlier in our discussion above Jarqui Feb 2020 #65
If you want to be the first of anything you have to be phenomenal in all categories. She lacks in Pisces Feb 2020 #37
True. Also, MSM wants Burnie badly to lose to Trump. So they need to get Warren robbedvoter Feb 2020 #47
I genuinely like Elizabeth Warren and think she'd make a fine President.n/t jcmaine72 Feb 2020 #49
those "half measures" in health care can kill a lot of people Hermit-The-Prog Feb 2020 #50
Why did Warren refuse to go after Sanders, it probably cost her her shot. dem4decades Feb 2020 #56
They are friends. Besides, the bros would go after her with full fury dalton99a Feb 2020 #57
They did anyway BeyondGeography Feb 2020 #58
If she didn't want to run against her friend, why run? dem4decades Feb 2020 #59
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