Democratic Primaries

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Tue Feb 18, 2020, 12:06 PM

Feb 2020

I don’t trust any racist, authoritarian, misogynist, billionaire oligarchs, regardless of which party they belong to.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

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Bloomberg-do you trust him? [View all] apcalc Feb 2020 OP

No. Not because of his party switch, but because of his record. WhiskeyGrinder Feb 2020 #1

+100 Spot on! abqtommy Feb 2020 #7

Not a good record... apcalc Feb 2020 #23

THIS !!!! He didn't need the racism either uponit7771 Feb 2020 #69

I'll put it this way Zolorp Feb 2020 #2

+1 apcalc Feb 2020 #21

+1 nt Fresh_Start Feb 2020 #100

+ another pandr32 Feb 2020 #190

Sander's did not ruin the life of thousands of black kids womanofthehills Feb 2020 #222

Not really. Turin_C3PO Feb 2020 #3

I have a LOT of qualms, I'll just leave it at that... hlthe2b Feb 2020 #4

True, not as bad as others.. but maybe a snake all the same. apcalc Feb 2020 #25

A snake with more intelligence and money than wnylib Feb 2020 #85

If don't trust Bloomberg. If he can buy the nomination, I'll support him. Beakybird Feb 2020 #5

Good points. I am in agreement. apcalc Feb 2020 #19

IMO, Bloomberg is below zero on wnylib Feb 2020 #98

He may be the key to getting rid of Citizens United. greymattermom Feb 2020 #185

We already had snowybirdie Feb 2020 #6

Well stated. Beakybird Feb 2020 #8

100% cherryinpa Feb 2020 #18

Spot on , on lots of counts...he raises suspicion. apcalc Feb 2020 #29

I think of him as idiot45 with table manners. ...nt 2naSalit Feb 2020 #48

Lol! I do call the other guy Dolt 45, but it's more like 44 1/8. apcalc Feb 2020 #60

Thank you for expressing it that way. wnylib Feb 2020 #123

Well, yeah he does have an IQ on the 2naSalit Feb 2020 #129

I hear you. emmaverybo Feb 2020 #220

I've been saying similar to you. I told my friend the difference between he and jrthin Feb 2020 #137

+1 ancianita Feb 2020 #236

THIS !!! I'm asking same question in OP; will minorities support someone who's had RECENT racism uponit7771 Feb 2020 #72

+1, cause that's what Bloomberg has ... money... he could've used it for something else uponit7771 Feb 2020 #70

Agree completely except maybe the last sentence. wnylib Feb 2020 #109

I do not trust Bloomberg at all Devil Child Feb 2020 #9

I always read profiles. Interesting information in them. n/t rzemanfl Feb 2020 #30

Good for you! I like to read profiles and I also enjoy long walks on the beach. Devil Child Feb 2020 #65

So it seems... waiting for the debates, media for exposure. apcalc Feb 2020 #35

Same, also hoping that Bloomberg is intensely vetted Devil Child Feb 2020 #71

Is that a rhetorical question?! For all the reasonss you mentioned + he gave us Shrub... InAbLuEsTaTe Feb 2020 #10

Ugh yes, he supported shrub. Forgot that. apcalc Feb 2020 #31

I don't get that either, FoxNewsSucks Feb 2020 #92

+1, People think PoC will vote against their own best interest after Trump turns Bloomberg into uponit7771 Feb 2020 #86

Well said. FoxNewsSucks Feb 2020 #89

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+1 apcalc Feb 2020 #32

Did he pay for the ads smearing Katie McGinty? Walleye Feb 2020 #12

I have to research that...by donating to Toomey I would say yes. apcalc Feb 2020 #36

I don't trust that he would govern in line with how he currently is presenting himself Tom Rinaldo Feb 2020 #13

Excellent description. Ty apcalc Feb 2020 #38

THIS !!!! uponit7771 Feb 2020 #88

He was a very good Mayor of NYC for 12 years... Mars and Minerva Feb 2020 #14

Thanks, hadn't thought of that money donating to our causes. apcalc Feb 2020 #41

To whom ?!!? My goodness ... most PoC in NY hate him for his racial profiling terrorism and it wasnt uponit7771 Feb 2020 #90

true apcalc Feb 2020 #166

Sorry but that's simply not true. Most POC in NYC do not hate him. Mars and Minerva Feb 2020 #240

So he created a positive image wnylib Feb 2020 #147

Exactly. silverweb Feb 2020 #187

Thank you for pointing this out pandr32 Feb 2020 #192

The more information the better, right? silverweb Feb 2020 #216

Exactly pandr32 Feb 2020 #231

I trust him more than Sanders, he is not the only "convenience" Democrat running. redstatebluegirl Feb 2020 #15

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No. He donates to candidates from other parties when they pledge to help with Squinch Feb 2020 #34

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Moving the goal posts much? My post was about his donating to Republicans. And yes. The Squinch Feb 2020 #57

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And what has your candidate accomplished in his long political life of perfect virtue? Squinch Feb 2020 #99

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Then you simply have not done enough research into the other candidates. ALL of them Squinch Feb 2020 #133

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"I won't disparage any of the other candidates" ehrnst Feb 2020 #161

Good points. apcalc Feb 2020 #233

It's worth mentioning that there is a candidate on the Democratic ticket has been promoted ehrnst Feb 2020 #145

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If they didn't want him as the nominee, they'd be treating him like they are treating Biden. ehrnst Feb 2020 #163

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Yes yes yes ehrnst Feb 2020 #183

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Why would Sanders supporters be suspicious of the process? ehrnst Feb 2020 #199

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"Some Sanders supporters" ehrnst Feb 2020 #209

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So you think "some Sanders supporters" can't be relied on to differentiate between ehrnst Feb 2020 #211

Switching of parties constantly"? REALLY? He was a Democrat for 40 years, became a republican... George II Feb 2020 #175

Thank you George Mike 03 Feb 2020 #182

It gets tough sometimes. Bloomberg ran in the republican primary against DEMOCRAT Herman Badillo! George II Feb 2020 #186

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You have no idea of the dynamics of the Mayoral race in 2001. If you did you'd know why.... George II Feb 2020 #168

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"not going to disparage any candidates..." ehrnst Feb 2020 #191

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But you don't call that "disparaging" ehrnst Feb 2020 #197

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Herman Badillo, another life long distinguished Democrat, felt the same as Bloomberg.... George II Feb 2020 #215

I can't imagine here in PA that Toomey supports gun control. apcalc Feb 2020 #61

Climate change legislation or programs? Squinch Feb 2020 #63

What a crock Bradshaw3 Feb 2020 #101

Have you seen Bloomberg's tax policy proposal? He's not looking for a tax break. Squinch Feb 2020 #103

Have you seen the Wizard of Oz Bradshaw3 Feb 2020 #108

THANK YOU !!! He's had decades of racism against PoC and defended Racial profiling last year uponit7771 Feb 2020 #112

And Biden defended his racist crime bill LAST YEAR: Squinch Feb 2020 #126

This is false on its face ""It was a big mistake when it was made,"(link) uponit7771 Feb 2020 #139

And 5 months LATER he defended the crime bill. Squinch Feb 2020 #149

No he's not !!! He said Stop and Frisk was "overused" vs racial profiling shouldn't have been used uponit7771 Feb 2020 #154

+1 apcalc Feb 2020 #42

What do you not trust Sanders about? DanTex Feb 2020 #83

I don't trust Sanders consummate LEADING deflection and not answering questions. uponit7771 Feb 2020 #94

I'm asking what do you not trust him to do or not do if he's elected. DanTex Feb 2020 #116

I don't trust he'll get MFA or anything close enacted and I don't trust him on immigration because uponit7771 Feb 2020 #122

I agree that anyone who becomes president will face resistance from the GOP to their agenda. DanTex Feb 2020 #127

Bloomberg has always been consistent on immigration. During his tenture in NYC he took away all Squinch Feb 2020 #140

Hmmmm, that's a good thing uponit7771 Feb 2020 #159

. Squinch Feb 2020 #164

👍, I want to like Bloomberg cause he's got the money to buy it all I just want dem policies uponit7771 Feb 2020 #167

yup...move Dem policies forward apcalc Feb 2020 #171

Mine too. Squinch Feb 2020 #172

+1 dalton99a Feb 2020 #87

Here's how he has acted in the past, and how I think he will act in the future: Squinch Feb 2020 #16

Hope you're right. Turin_C3PO Feb 2020 #24

It is how he has done it in the past in my observation. At times it is painful. I will be Squinch Feb 2020 #33

This is exactly what I took away from "The Many Lives of Michael Bloomberg" Mike 03 Feb 2020 #40

I agree with much of your assessment. I was looking at BusyBeingBest Feb 2020 #54

Your points are excellent. I do need more education about him. apcalc Feb 2020 #73

I like your arguments re : deaths of young black men apcalc Feb 2020 #45

Bloomberg could've done all this without racism and without defending that racism just last year uponit7771 Feb 2020 #84

Biden and BS passed a racist crime bill that resulted in the unjust incarceration of thousands of Squinch Feb 2020 #95

That wasn't last year and both of them would've done it differently. Bloomberg on the other hand uponit7771 Feb 2020 #106

Here's Biden defending the crime bill LAST YEAR: Squinch Feb 2020 #120

Joe Biden says he'd do different now and that's believable because of his record. On the other uponit7771 Feb 2020 #131

So Biden says he'd do it differently today, but was defending it LAST YEAR and Squinch Feb 2020 #136

YES !!! Because Biden doesn't have decades of saying racist shit about Minorities uponit7771 Feb 2020 #138

But he DID racist shit. That crime bill was racist. Which is worse? Squinch Feb 2020 #142

Bullshit, there was no racist intent with 94 Crime bill there was racist intent with Stop and Frish uponit7771 Feb 2020 #148

Bloomberg set out to stop the skyrocketing numbers of murders of young black men in NYC. Squinch Feb 2020 #152

We're not talking about "other policies" we're talking about Racial Profiling which was on its face uponit7771 Feb 2020 #157

And we're talking about the overtly racist shit that was the crime bill. Squinch Feb 2020 #160

The crime bill wasn't aimed purposefully at PoC while Bloombergs racial profiling was. uponit7771 Feb 2020 #169

Very interesting post. here is an article explaining about the dropping incarceration rates... jmg257 Feb 2020 #219

Not one bit. Nanjeanne Feb 2020 #20

I sort of do. Having watched some of his speeches and presentations now, I BusyBeingBest Feb 2020 #22

I look at his record from just last year, I don't think he's changed anything and wont do anything uponit7771 Feb 2020 #80

I would suggest some reading of articles like The Life of Michael Bloomberg by Business Insider BusyBeingBest Feb 2020 #91

I'm black, of course I'm hearing of the terrorism he enacted on PoC in NY and didn't apologize for uponit7771 Feb 2020 #104

Yes, I'm aware of all that. I understand that especially black people may never trust him. BusyBeingBest Feb 2020 #111

That's 25% of the electorate and its not just blacks it was Hispanics too. Dems aren't going to vote uponit7771 Feb 2020 #117

I'm not trying to talk you out of supporting Biden. You have to do BusyBeingBest Feb 2020 #125

" the Democratic Party will keep him in line I'm sure." Oh goodness ... this is EXACTLY what they uponit7771 Feb 2020 #165

NO NedBraden Feb 2020 #26

Yes. Buying a nomination ' at the last minute' rots, plus baggage. apcalc Feb 2020 #49

No. sinkingfeeling Feb 2020 #27

Not my candidate.... but.... Happy Hoosier Feb 2020 #28

About as much as I'd trust a starving cat around my pet parakeet jcmaine72 Feb 2020 #37

Funny! To the point, tho! apcalc Feb 2020 #50

No. Jirel Feb 2020 #39

DINO! apcalc Feb 2020 #68

I don't trust him. I think his hate for Trump is greater than his wanting to be president. zackymilly Feb 2020 #43

Good point. apcalc Feb 2020 #52

I trust him more than I trust Bernie n/t Evergreen Emerald Feb 2020 #46

Why? What has Sanders done to lose your trust? Thanks. n/t zackymilly Feb 2020 #51

Bernie is promising things he can't deliver redstateblues Feb 2020 #121

Convenience Democrat...criticizes Dems as a party in off years....have trust issues there as well. apcalc Feb 2020 #181

Fuck no. Act_of_Reparation Feb 2020 #47

Lol, I like your answer! apcalc Feb 2020 #53

+1 Jarqui Feb 2020 #55

I don't trust any of them. Tipperary Feb 2020 #56

Right on. Act_of_Reparation Feb 2020 #59

I agree - some are better than others. Tipperary Feb 2020 #174

Hollywood heartthrob! Yeah, sometimes supporters' infatuated profiles remind me of stories in emmaverybo Feb 2020 #221

Not really but lees1975 Feb 2020 #58

Hear ya there, sort of the spot I'm in. apcalc Feb 2020 #62

Sure. Laelth Feb 2020 #64

How it plays out is how it plays out. Sound like a Yogi-ism? Firestorm49 Feb 2020 #66

True we need unity. I still think the R's will apcalc Feb 2020 #76

✨✨✨✨✨✨✨✨NO!!!!!✨✨✨✨✨✨✨✨✨ MB Was defending his racism last year !!! uponit7771 Feb 2020 #67

Racism . Misogyny too. apcalc Feb 2020 #75

+1, Stop & frisk is legal and its MB's way to conflate the legal vs racial profiling he supported uponit7771 Feb 2020 #79

SQF--stop, question, frisk--is legal. But depends how employed. Bloomberg's policy was declared emmaverybo Feb 2020 #225

Here's Biden LAST YEAR!!! defending the crime bill he wrote that resulted in the unjust Squinch Feb 2020 #115

Biden said "It was a big mistake when it was made," & Biden doesn't have decades of racist uponit7771 Feb 2020 #144

He said that in January, and then 5 months LATER he defended the crime bill. Squinch Feb 2020 #146

He defended aspects of it not the bill as a whole, I can read. Just stop, Bloomberg's set out with a uponit7771 Feb 2020 #150

We are not going to agree. Have a good day. Squinch Feb 2020 #155

I trust him more than Sanders. comradebillyboy Feb 2020 #77

Nope. lamp_shade Feb 2020 #78

No, I don't trust him. Any reason I should? dchill Feb 2020 #81

He helped Toomey because he did gun control... Demsrule86 Feb 2020 #82

I trust that he wants the Con out of office & would like things to return to the status quo. CrispyQ Feb 2020 #93

Not at all. He's too old and too arrogant to have suddenly switched his core beliefs. hedda_foil Feb 2020 #96

I trust that he's acting rationally. Mersky Feb 2020 #97

His platform? You believe his consultant polled and written platform reflects his beliefs? hedda_foil Feb 2020 #107

+1 apcalc Feb 2020 #113

Yeah, I hear you Mersky Feb 2020 #132

I wouldn't be happy voting for either of them, but I've held my nose before. hedda_foil Feb 2020 #205

Very thoughtful and comprehensive. Ty for the platform research apcalc Feb 2020 #110

I'm grappling with it Mersky Feb 2020 #141

like those ads...my fave has a karate kick to the head apcalc Feb 2020 #176

It is a good one - probably my favorite, too Mersky Feb 2020 #178

Is a good question you asked Mersky Feb 2020 #170

tty. me too. The discussion is good...still going back and forth. apcalc Feb 2020 #173

I trust if he loses the nomination he won't spoil the convention Fresh_Start Feb 2020 #102

I have not forgotten. And I'm still pissed. apcalc Feb 2020 #114

i could forgive the convention Fresh_Start Feb 2020 #118

I don't trust him Faux pas Feb 2020 #105

Ah, you may be right. How are we to know? apcalc Feb 2020 #119

I've been paying Faux pas Feb 2020 #218

His record includes an apology for mistakes randr Feb 2020 #124

I don't trust any politician. Loki Liesmith Feb 2020 #128

In a word: no Anaxamander Feb 2020 #134

Not if I hold to my core principles Omen78 Feb 2020 #135

I'm skeptical about candidates who excessively self fund. Throck Feb 2020 #143

Yes. stopbush Feb 2020 #153

no. he has clearly shown who he is. Kurt V. Feb 2020 #156

trust him to do what? lapfog_1 Feb 2020 #162

Absolutely I do not trust him. He is far down my list. totodeinhere Feb 2020 #177

I switched decades ago from being a Republican to a Democrat Pachamama Feb 2020 #180

why did you switch decades ago...I hated Nixon, liked Ford....but not Reagan...no way apcalc Feb 2020 #184

I grew up and formed my own opinions versus my parents Pachamama Feb 2020 #198

+1 apcalc Feb 2020 #203

Trump fears Bloomberg nobuddy Feb 2020 #193

+1 good point apcalc Feb 2020 #204

He won't after the Vegas debate at140 Feb 2020 #228

Not as far as I could throw him. samir.g Feb 2020 #194

Personally? Not so sure, but with my wife, daughter, minority or Asian friends? No F'ing Way. jmg257 Feb 2020 #200

At first, I thought, well sure, he looks like a Trump stumper, but then the backstories came out Baked Potato Feb 2020 #201

Nope Fiendish Thingy Feb 2020 #206

Nope The Mouth Feb 2020 #207

I've made my feelings about him known customerserviceguy Feb 2020 #212

Omg 3rd party bid... had not thought of that 😕 apcalc Feb 2020 #214

Bloomie's said customerserviceguy Feb 2020 #217

+1 uponit7771 Feb 2020 #238

If Biden's the Dem nominee, I'll vote for him. If Bloomberg is the nominee, I'll vote against trump. LanternWaste Feb 2020 #213

+1 apcalc Feb 2020 #235

No! Dem4Life1102 Feb 2020 #223

No. loyalsister Feb 2020 #224

Look at his donations for all of 2019 Aviation Pro Feb 2020 #226

Same here. tencats Feb 2020 #229

I don't trust his words his actions I'd like to take a good look at though uponit7771 Feb 2020 #239

No! at140 Feb 2020 #227

NO! Doreen Feb 2020 #230

No, and it is my biggest reason he is last on my list mvd Feb 2020 #232

No! myohmy2 Feb 2020 #234

a 'convenience' Democrat... ehrnst Feb 2020 #237

Warren and Bloomberg were registered Repubs for about the same amount of time Kaleva Feb 2020 #241

Warren has been a Democrat for longer than all of Bernie's primary runs combined ehrnst Feb 2020 #243

My mistake. You were talking about Sanders being a "convenience Democrat". Kaleva Feb 2020 #247

You thought I was talking about Bloomberg? (nt) ehrnst Feb 2020 #249

The OP is about Bloomberg Kaleva Feb 2020 #250

I understand. ehrnst Feb 2020 #251

Why would anyone trust him? BeyondGeography Feb 2020 #242

No. aikoaiko Feb 2020 #244

Nope ibegurpard Feb 2020 #245

I do trust him. He's not a "convenience" Democrat; he WAS a "convenience" Republican. brooklynite Feb 2020 #246

Yes Kaleva Feb 2020 #248

He has been a Democrat for 60 years out of his 77 years. patricia92243 Feb 2020 #252

I think he would have been better served Liberalhammer Feb 2020 #253