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Uncle Joe

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19. Are you referring to Hillary?
Tue Feb 18, 2020, 04:58 PM
Feb 2020


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The Sanders team might actually find some common ground with Hillary Clinton, whose 2008 campaign had its own grievances with MSNBC. Clinton and her supporters scoffed at what they saw as unfair and sexist treatment from the network combined with its fawning coverage of Barack Obama. Former Pennsylvania governor Ed Rendell, a Clinton supporter in 2008, called MSNBC “the official network of the Obama campaign.” Matthews apologized at one point for saying Clinton was only the Democratic front-runner because “her husband messed around.” David Shuster, then a reporter for MSNBC, was suspended for saying that Chelsea Clinton “was sort of being pimped out” by the campaign, remarks that prompted Hillary Clinton to write a letter to the head of NBC News. “I would urge you to look at the pattern of behavior on your network that seems to repeatedly lead to this sort of degrading language,” Clinton wrote.

The twilight of George W. Bush‘s presidency and the ascent of Obama marked the beginning of MSNBC’s transformation into a liberal analog to Fox News. Keith Olbermann’s thunderous, Murrow-affected denunciations of Bush gave way to Matthews’s giddy embrace of Obama, ushering in a new era for a network that had previously struggled to find an identity. “This is the network that has opened its heart to change, to change and its possibilities,” Matthews said while covering Obama’s first inauguration in 2009. In 2010, MSNBC launched a marketing campaign that carried the tagline, “Lean Forward.” By 2012, the transformation was complete, with former president Bill Clinton remarking that MSNBC had “become our version of Fox.” When NBC News and MSNBC chairman Andy Lack returned to 30 Rock in 2015, there were rumblings that MSNBC would depart from some of its left-leaning opinion programming in favor of more hard news coverage, but the network—particularly its prime-time lineup, where Maddow is one of the most influential players in Democratic politics—has remained mostly a safe haven for the party faithful. It has not, however, played host to many of the leftist and progressive voices that have powered the Sanders movement and upended Democratic politics in the last four years. The party may be changing, but MSNBC has not.

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https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2020/02/fox-has-been-more-fair-why-bernies-team-has-had-it-with-msnbc


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MSNBC is just an arm of media giant COMCAST. jalan48 Feb 2020 #1
Fox News isn't an arm of media giant FOX CORPORATION, founded by Roger Ailes and Ruppert Murdoch? George II Feb 2020 #21
They are both giant media companies. jalan48 Feb 2020 #24
One is right wing, one is not. George II Feb 2020 #25
And neither want to see their taxes go up under a Bernie Sanders Administration. jalan48 Feb 2020 #49
That jackass Michael Moore is on almost daily pimping for Bernie so just SAVE THE BULLSHIT. nt UniteFightBack Feb 2020 #58
SO TRUE!! InAbLuEsTaTe Feb 2020 #54
LOL I can't imagine why. HarlanPepper Feb 2020 #2
There's another politician that used to continually whine about things being "unfair" Happyhippychick Feb 2020 #3
Used to? Still does redstateblues Feb 2020 #6
Are you referring to Hillary? Uncle Joe Feb 2020 #19
Nice try, and nice deflection. This is 2020, a LOT of things have changed since 2008. George II Feb 2020 #22
If Matthews apologized and lapucelle Feb 2020 #34
+1 spooky3 Feb 2020 #51
No, I'm not rehashing the last primary. Are you referring to Hillary? Happyhippychick Feb 2020 #47
EXCELLENT POINT UNCLE JOE... AS USUAL!! InAbLuEsTaTe Feb 2020 #56
Always the victim, with Fox News and Glenn Greewald cheering the whole thing on. N/T lapucelle Feb 2020 #4
Always the victim. Always playing the grievance card in Bernie world redstateblues Feb 2020 #5
I've been watching a bit of Fox News customerserviceguy Feb 2020 #20
Check out Tom Kludt's Twitter feed. The Velveteen Ocelot Feb 2020 #7
Oh, please kydemo Feb 2020 #8
Ou contraire, my low post friend Xipe Totec Feb 2020 #27
Media Corporations competing for all that election ad money. It is not right. pwb Feb 2020 #9
Yeah, they've had it with MSNBC until the next time Chris Hayes invites some of them like.... George II Feb 2020 #10
Sanders' team doesn't want anyone who presses the Chosen One. NT Happy Hoosier Feb 2020 #11
Joy Reid always disparages Biden LakeArenal Feb 2020 #12
poooooooooor persecuted bernie. such a victim nt msongs Feb 2020 #13
Oh brother. Spare me. NurseJackie Feb 2020 #14
Just, wow! Skidmore Feb 2020 #15
The martyrdom routine got real old real fast LanternWaste Feb 2020 #16
Why do you think Fox has been more fair to Bernie? CalFione Feb 2020 #17
we are Deero Feb 2020 #18
Where's the onion link ?! Please post it ... thx uponit7771 Feb 2020 #23
Here it is. Uncle Joe Feb 2020 #28
lol ... they're always good for a chuckle uponit7771 Feb 2020 #50
Complaining about coverage? What are they smoking? LiberalFighter Feb 2020 #26
That does it! From now on I will only watch FOX News for fair and balanced coverage of the Primaries Midnight Writer Feb 2020 #29
Fox and trump really want a very weak and unelectable candidate like sanders to be the nominee Gothmog Feb 2020 #30
RCP has Sanders beating Trump in Michigan, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin. Boulevardier Feb 2020 #33
At the national convention, vetted sanders delegates booed John Lewis, Elijah Cummings and others Gothmog Feb 2020 #35
trump would bury and destroy a weak candidate like sanders Gothmog Feb 2020 #38
So Fox is now Fair and Balanced News? sheshe2 Feb 2020 #31
Chris Matthews was at it again just now. A very ugly anti-Bernie rant. Boulevardier Feb 2020 #32
Matthews was a big fan of George W. Bush. Uncle Joe Feb 2020 #37
So you're promoting a piece from the "corporate owned media" now.... ehrnst Feb 2020 #36
Fox. Wants Sanders to win. That is a good thing to tell everyone? Lol krissey Feb 2020 #42
I know, right? Especially coming from those who take umbrage at the VERY IDEA ehrnst Feb 2020 #44
I saw another thread yesterday that was suppose to be an attack on Biden but really, krissey Feb 2020 #46
Well dah that is who the Republicans want to doc03 Feb 2020 #39
If Fox is friendly to Bernie that isn't a good sign. nt gollygee Feb 2020 #40
Seriously? Had the Russian per Sanders himself help in 2016. Now, Fox is going to help pander Sander krissey Feb 2020 #41
Ha-ha-ha-ha-ha! Mike Nelson Feb 2020 #43
Victim card awesomerwb1 Feb 2020 #45
Yeesh greenjar_01 Feb 2020 #48
Well no kidding the GOP Trump and his MAGAT's are fapping at running against a socialist aeromanKC Feb 2020 #52
Fox News, where everybody knows your Democratic Socialist name ? OnDoutside Feb 2020 #53
If RW propaganda Fox is being "more fair" to Bernie, there's something in it for Trump. nt WePurrsevere Feb 2020 #55
FOX being nice to Bernie is all we need to know. That's not by accident or that they are "fair&balan Vivienne235729 Feb 2020 #57
Flat out fucking lie and I don't like easily disprovable lies. SMEARS & LIES ARE THEIR FUEL. NT UniteFightBack Feb 2020 #59
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